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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / January 2007Denying facts about AIDS should be illegal!
Does anyone else agree that this is a fine idea? Much as denying the Nazi Holocaust will land you in jail in Austria they should make the denial of the spread of AIDS punishable by prison. Why stop there though, those who spread misinformation about AIDS should also be punished, see the bit in the article about South African President Mbeki. http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=1000 > Does anyone else agree that this is a fine idea? Much as denying the > Nazi Holocaust will land you in jail in Austria they should make the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=1000 In many ways it is worse than holocaust denial, since that is a denial of history, whereas HIV denial has tragic ongoing consequences for those infected or who put themselves at risk of infection thinking they are safe. However, I disagree that it should be criminalised. That might just be the thin end of the wedge. > Does anyone else agree that this is a fine idea? Much as denying the > Nazi Holocaust will land you in jail in Austria they should make the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=1000 As long as you don't find any citation in this group proofing the virus hypothesis and boys like Montagnier and Gallo are not nominated for a Nobel Price, your question can't be serious. Max Maxwell Hamilton wrote... >>Does anyone else agree that this is a fine idea? Much as denying the >>Nazi Holocaust will land you in jail in Austria they should make the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > As long as you don't find any citation in this group proofing the virus hypothesis and boys like Montagnier and Gallo are not nominated for a Nobel Price, your question can't be serious. His proposal is quite serious. Leftists condemn any attacks on their free speech as unconstitutional, but happily call for banning the free speech of those who disagree with leftist orthodoxy. Of course you are an idiot for believing that HIV and AIDS don't exist, but your idiocy is harmless and there is no reason to suppress your radical opinion because nobody believes it, and if a few people do believe it then they are retards and deserve to die of AIDS if they take your Usenet posts seriously and forgo condoms because they didn't think viruses existed. If President Mbeki wants to believe it and South Africa really is a democracy and the people really want to elect a retard who wants to replace ARV drugs with garlic juice, then I suppose the retarded South African people deserve to die of AIDS, too. > Maxwell Hamilton wrote... >> As long as you don't find any citation in this group proofing the virus hypothesis >> and boys like Montagnier and Gallo are not nominated for a Nobel Price, >> your question can't be serious. > ... > Of course you are an idiot ... idiot : phrase identifying a troll > ... for believing that HIV and AIDS don't exist, ... obviously I didn't say this. If it takes this kind of logic to understand your opinion - thank you >> Maxwell Hamilton wrote... >>> As long as you don't find any citation in this group proofing the virus hypothesis [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > idiot : phrase identifying a troll Yeah, just one of the resident trolls. Or rather, one of the socks/nyms of the resident troll. B/ If President Mbeki wants to believe it and > South Africa really is a democracy and the people really want to elect > a retard who wants to replace ARV drugs with garlic juice, then I > suppose the retarded South African people deserve to die of AIDS, too. As leader of a country you have a responsibility to your people. Do you think that Mbeki, if he does not believe there is a link between Aids and HIV, is going to approve funding for expensive ARV drugs. Of course he won't. It will be left to NGOs to help those infected. jamesmoggy@yahoo.co.uk wrote... > If President Mbeki wants to believe it and > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and HIV, is going to approve funding for expensive ARV drugs. Of course > he won't. It will be left to NGOs to help those infected. Now that I think about it, Mbfoobi is a genius because the simplest and cheapest way to end the AIDS epidemic is to stop treating the disease. The ARVs do work, and that is unfortunate because they keep the patient alive indefinitely to infect so many more people before succumbing to the virus. The ARVs are also very expensive, far too expensive for any African country and even wealthier nations will have a hard time paying for the annual medical bills of an HIV patient if he continues to infect as many people per year while receiving treatment. Without drugs he will die within 5 years, infecting perhaps 100 people in that time period, now he lives another 20 years, infecting hundreds more people before having the decency to die. Even worse, untreated HIV makes the person look sick for the last year or two, making him less likely to find willing sex partners, while the ARVs restore the appearance of near-perfect health and luring unsuspecting sex parnters to their doom. If Mubambi does it right, he can cut off the supply of ARVs and let nature take its course and decimate the population, preferably combined with long-term mandatory testing of the general population, high-security quarantine facilities to confine the infected, and of course industrial crematoriums to dispose of the toxic waste. > Maxwell Hamilton wrote... > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > free speech as unconstitutional, but happily call for banning the free > speech of those who disagree with leftist orthodoxy. What makes you think these people are 'leftists'? Look at who they're attacking - Thabo Mbeki. They are sponsored by corporate interests... So why do you think they're leftists? Alex >"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> schreef in bericht snip >What makes you think these people are 'leftists'? I'm a leftist. I believe in healthcare as a right, in universal access. >Look at who they're attacking - Thabo Mbeki. They are sponsored >by corporate interests... Who is sponsored by corporate interests? I'm not. TAC is not. That's a lie you tell, isn't? Is Thabo Mbeki a leftist??? >So why do you think they're leftists? So what are you? George M. Carter Alex wrote... > Montagnier and Gallo are not nominated for a Nobel Price, your question can't be serious. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Alex Sorry, I tend to generalize, but what I think I meant was that the political left is heavily involved in the HIV/AIDS advocacy movements, and the rights of people with HIV are now protected by the same statutes that protect the rights of other minority groups. The gay activists in San Francisco and elsewhere are practically communists, and their cause naturally overlaps the AIDS cause, as well as feminism and other causes that seek to blur the definition of gender and possibly even species in the name of promoting equality for all persuns. The gay advocates are aligned with the HIV advocates and both share the same goal of remaining alive (animate) long enough to engage in as many anal sex acts as possible. Since anal sex transmits HIV and stopping that would be unthinkable as well as impossible, the only practical solution is for science to discover new drugs that will suppress the virus and allow for more anal sex acts behind dumpsters. The San Francisco left also promotes suppression of speech they disagree with, such as when radical Code Pink feminazi activists decried the BART system's decision to permit anti-abortion posters in train stations, but BART refused to remove them because it argued it had no authority to judge which political viewpoint was correct. While you are correct in that I have no proof the writer is a leftist, I just assume that because he/she is trying to suppress the idea that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, because that belief is not in the interests of the pharmaceutical companies, and because the interests of the pharmaceutical companies and the pro-gay and pro-HIV advocates are the same (consuming dozens of expensive pills a day), I simply assumed the writer was leftist and probably gay and probably has AIDS too. "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message > ... and because the interests of the pharmaceutical companies and the > pro-gay and pro-HIV advocates are the same (consuming dozens of expensive > pills a day), I simply assumed the writer was leftist and probably gay and > probably has AIDS too. That was my thought as well Death wrote... > "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That was my thought as well My fucktarded brother was babbling on about how he thought he heard that the ARVs are forcing the virus to evolve to be less virulent and allowing those with the virus to live longer even if they receive no drug treatment. He thought that was some sort of progress, so I rudely explained to him that it simply meant more time for AIDS patients to infect others before having the decency to drop dead. I then descended into a rant about how it wasn't fair that me and other taxpayers have to pay a million dollars a year to keep him alive just so he can infect a thousand other people a year, each of whom cost a million dollars a year to keep alive just so they can each infect a thousand others. He protested that it "only" costs $30,000 a year to keep AIDS patients alive, so I asked him how much he earned or paid in taxes (zero dollars a year). Then he started babbling on about bathhouses and I drove him home and kicked him out of the car. My brother is gay and represents a majority, but not all of, the gay men in the USA. Like most gay American men, he has HIV and uses crystal meth and is extremely promiscuous. His treatment may "only" cost $30,000 a year, but it keeps him alive indefinitely and there is no doubt he infects between several hundred and several thousand others each year. The government refuses to do anything about it, ignoring the bathhouses and and the meth sales and use that go on there, and even ignoring the bag of meth that fell out of my brother's pocket, so there is no chance of locking him up. What there might be a chance of is reducing U.S. funding HIV/AIDS treatment to zero, so that without the expensive ARV drugs HIV patients like my brother will soon begin rotting away and die of AIDS so they can't do more damage. > Does anyone else agree that this is a fine idea? Much as denying the > Nazi Holocaust will land you in jail in Austria they should make the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=1000 Gee, I guess Oprah was right when she predicted that 10 million people in the US would have AIDS by 1990!!! Sorry, the great US "AIDS" epidemic failed along with all the other toxic drugs that poisoned 400,000 people and wasted almost 300 billion dollars on junk science. "AIDS" is now in serious decline in the US and is in the category of RARE DISEASE with less than 15,000 new cases every new year. (of mostly non-symptomatic HIV positives who only qualify as "AIDS" patients by having less than 200 CD4 T-cells per ml and are healthy) Now even AID$ Inc. admits "estimates" of African HIV/AIDS cases were way overblown. But does this stop the SKY IS FALLING--SKY IS FALLING rants of the Oprah media? No. For anyone interested in seeing the truth about HIV/AID$--- the biggest and most dangerous medical fraud of all time, visit this site: http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com or www.helpforhiv.com The numbers of scientists and biomedical researchers now challenging the bankrupt science behind HIV/AID$ are growing all over the world in masses. Thank God South African President Mbeki stood up to this madness before they poisoned millions of poor Africans like they have 400,000 Americans. It's time to stop the HIV/AID$ hysteria and abandon HIV. If anyone belongs in jail it is Bobby (stole the virus) Gallo and Anthony (Mengale) Fauci. TurthPLEASE! snip >Gee, I guess Oprah was right when she predicted that 10 million people >in the US would have AIDS by 1990!!! Sorry, the great US "AIDS" >epidemic failed along with all the other toxic drugs that poisoned >400,000 people and wasted almost 300 billion dollars on junk science. Cognitive dissonance, numbnuts. If the toxic drugs should be killing people, then more should be dead, no? But they help people to stay alive. And safer sex practices, needle exchange and harm reduction have helped to stem the tide of new infections. Prevention and treatment programs have been thwarted and stymied by Bush and his lot of murderers and thieves--but despite them and the psycho religious fundy nutcases, much has been done to educate people in prevention. Idiot denialists like you notwithstanding. Sadly, you can count many of your denialist brethren among those who died of AIDS buying your brand of bullshit. George M. Carter > snip > >Gee, I guess Oprah was right when she predicted that 10 million people [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Cognitive dissonance, numbnuts. If the toxic drugs should be killing > people, then more should be dead, no? 400,000 ENOUGH for your GEORGE???? > But they help people to stay alive. And safer sex practices, needle > exchange and harm reduction have helped to stem the tide of new > infections.\ BULLSHIT! the number of total infected has remained at a CONSTANT level (.05%) for OVER 20 years!!! YOU KNOW THIS!!!! or you are just plain STUPID because I have proved this to you from CDC studies at least three times!!!! Obviously you have forgotten. I will POST THIS SAME DISCUSSION form another Google blog. Your mind is going!!! You can't even remember how many times you have been caught telling the SAME LIE to the SAME person. DO NOT tell me ONE MORE TIME GEORGE that new infections have decreased becuase the Same number of people who were infected with HIV in 1985 per capita has NEVER CHANGED. YOU KNOW THIS!!!!! Lets see was it the Lancet study or the JAMA study of this year that prove your above statements are BULLSHIT..Oh ya,,I forgot IT WAS BOTH!!!! Take your RAT poison "miracle treatments" somewhere else George.The studies PROVE they DON"T increase life spans. > Prevention and treatment programs have been thwarted and stymied by > Bush and his lot of murderers and thieves--but despite them and the > psycho religious fundy nutcases, much has been done to educate people > in prevention. Hey go easy on the Prez George, he is the one funding your fraud right now, not us! You better butter up to W. George, cause you will get no sympathy from the growing angry crowd after both of you! > Idiot denialists like you notwithstanding. > > Sadly, you can count many of your denialist brethren among those who > died of AIDS buying your brand of bullshit. > > George M. Carter Hey everybody! George M Carter is Back for another a.s kicking! No matter how many times George gets the floor wiped with his butt in these debates He KEEPS COMING BACK FOR MORE!!!! WHY? Becuase he is INVESTED in this FRAUD! GEORGE and his buddy Bobby STEAL the VIRUS GALLO, and David fudge the results (so bad that even Rockefeller and his evil crowd of theives had to throw him out) BALTIMORE, wanna give us another round of their USED CAR and used RUBBER science about "HOW HIV CAUSES AIDS." 25 years of lies and still George wants to tell us that HIV causes AIDS" in spite of 400,000 people George and his HIV/AID$ quacks poisoned with AZT. Now in spite of the most recent studies, he still says these toxic drugs actually SAVE lives!!!! George and his buddy Robert Gallo have poisoned about 6 TIMES the number of US servicemen killed in Vietnam. They are the SCUM of corrupt science. I DEMAND you defend AZT George! (he won't, cause he knows was POISON) I could engage in this for hours George, but I think I would rather refer the readers to the BMJ debate where you and the others were so badly mauled. Or was it the Yahoo debate. Oh ya!! I forgot..It was BOTH again! Should I pull out the statements you made then and post them again? we are keeping those you know. Take your used RUBBER HIV "science" and go away!! for GOOD!!! Stay in this debate Goerge. I promise you I will KICK your a.s again here and any other place I find your murdering madness you call "AIDS SCIENCE!" >> snip >> >Gee, I guess Oprah was right when she predicted that 10 million people [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >400,000 ENOUGH for your GEORGE???? Try 25 million men, women and children who have died of AIDS. Related to HIV. Many because the pharmaceutical companies blocked their access to cheap generics, often with the eager help of the United States government through shitty trade deals and the like. That enough for you? George M. Carter > >> snip > >> >Gee, I guess Oprah was right when she predicted that 10 million people [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Try 25 million men, women and children who have died of AIDS. Related > to HIV. According to who's WHOs statistics? Tell me Goerge, where you out in Africa counting everyone? You know martians landed out there too? There is NO way you can even come close to verfing any of that! They never even tested those people, with the bogus HIV test. The death rate in South Africa has only slightly increased since the change in government with all those problems, and UNAIDS says SA has a HIV population "estimate" of 10% HIV positives. No wonder president Mbeki questions the AID$ industy's stats. Too bad you don't as well. Would somebody PLEASE tell US women and South Africans (and Magic Johnson) to DIE soon, so we can save the "HIV causes AIDS hypothesis" and further problems for AID$ Inc. So actually the AID$ industry came up with the SLOWER HIV virus because it takes even LONGER to cause AIDS than in the US. Funny how HIV won't cooperate with the AIDS science projections in US women, Africans, Hatians, Hispanics, or age groups outside risk categories. When you look at the entire HIV/AIDS paradigm it's almost as if HIV can fool every statistical profile an "infectious epidemic" would have to follow. But then again, we have to make "sceintific exceptions" for HIV the retrovirus that "causes AIDS" after antibody immunity. Where the hell is that vaccine we were promised by 1986? It's being developed by the same people who are creating a vaccine against auto accidents I guess. When the AIDS "treatments" fail they go back to talking about the 20 year belated vaccine, until the new drugs come out. Maybe they should try to develop a vaccine against comets too. > Many because the pharmaceutical companies blocked their access to > cheap generics, often with the eager help of the United States > government through shitty trade deals and the like. They wanted to give millions of pregnant African woman AZT, a drug designed to destroy DNA at fire sale cheap prices, (but still paid for by US tax dollars) > That enough for you? > > George M. Carter >According to who's WHOs statistics? Tell me Goerge, where you out in >Africa counting everyone? What in the world are you dithering about now? Oh. That's right. More conspiracy blather. Darling, you ought to re-read Steve Harris's great refutation of the same old tired bullshit arguments and straw men you denialists keep regurgitating. Here: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/focuson/hiv/pdf/TheAIDSHeresies.pdf You're arguments are just utter crap, dear. As usual, they merely demonstrate that most denialists are intellectually challenged at best. At worst, they pretend their HIV+ status is irrelevant. Til they develop opportunistic infections and die needlessly. Like David Pasquarelli and so many others. (HEAL/Sydney chapter for example). They died of AIDS. Not because they were bad or gay or drug users or not. They died because they did not believe they had a serious infection. They refused to get proper treatment. Antivirals are not a cure and can have side effects--but they have helped many to have longer, more productive lives than when ARV was (or is) not available. And I kinda get the feeling that YOU should be on treatment. If you are HIV+, TruthPlease, the truth is you will probably die sooner than you need to if you keep espousing this bullshit. George M. Carter > >According to who's WHOs statistics? Tell me Goerge, where you out in > >Africa counting everyone? [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > George M. Carter George, I am not HIV positive, but I have worked with people who are for the last 14 years. I can tell you that every person I knew who took antivirals is dead! The people I know personally who tested HIV positive and stayed away from HIV treatments (more specifically AZT) are healthy and fine. But they have also had to reprogram their HIV=AIDS=DEATH mindset, AND they had to recognize risk behavior and its effects. They may only be a small study, but when you look out at the huge numbers of people in the same situation, you find the SAME trend in mass. I do not know of ONE person who took AIDS treatments who is not either dead, or on death's doorstep at this time. None of them are healthy, like those who refused to march to the HIV/AIDS mantra. snip >George, I am not HIV positive, but I have worked with people who are >for the last 14 years. >I can tell you that every person I knew who took antivirals is dead! >The people I know personally who tested HIV positive and stayed away >from HIV treatments (more specifically AZT) are healthy and fine. I believe you are lying. I don't believe a word you are saying. Why should I believe any of this tripe, especially from an anonymous troll? George M. Carter > snip > >George, I am not HIV positive, but I have worked with people who are [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > George M. Carter George, George, the only people lying here are you and your 300 billion dollar mass genocidal fraud. You have been lying since Gallo was caught stealing the viurs, since Baltimore was caught submitting fraudulent tests, since the Concord study and AZT, with lies about HIV infection rates, with lies about HIV testing validity, with lies about surrogate markers and AIDS progression, with lies about the pathogenic process of HIV, with lies about ICLs and people who have AIDS without HIV, with lies about why we should continue your scam by giving you more money, with lies about the racist policies of poisoning poor Africans and other third world nations---all based on the lies you created with HIV, the virus that fails every test to be the cause of AIDS. And you ARE invested in AIDS treatments. Another lie. Shall I post the information about your background here? You are worse than a used car saleman, you are the epitome of dangerous quacks. TruthPLEASE! >> snip >> >George, I am not HIV positive, but I have worked with people who are [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >George, George, the only people lying here are blah blah blah. Same old tired crap that says nothing, means nothing--except that when people think you're speaking anything remotely like the truth, they wind up with opportunistic infections and dead with AIDS. If people with HIV use ARV and treat the OIs, they live much longer--possibly approaching a normal lifespan. Meantime, in your jibber-jabber, you made claims you obviously can't back up because you're an anonymous coward. George M. Carter > >> snip > >> >George, I am not HIV positive, but I have worked with people who are [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > George M. Carter George, 400,000 people did NOT live normal lafespans in the last 20 years of your HIV/AIDS quackery. They are DEAD! And I knew some of them. That's more than 6 times the number of US servicemen killed in Vietnam...and you say "this says NOTHING and MEANS NOTHING!" You are a danger to the human race. I have already backed up my claims time and time again with you. I want you to back up yours! Tell us George, JUST HOW does HIV ACATUALLY cause AIDS???? One on one T-cell direct infection, lymph node hybernation migration, and viral load explanations are ALL dead! You have NO way of explaining how HIV causes AIDS, just like Nobel Prize winner and PCR inventer Kary Mullis, and Dr. Peter Duesberg have said for over 20 years! You will never be able to prove that HIV causes AIDS any more than you can prove the earth is flat, because basic scientific fact is against you and will not bend to your spin or way of thinking! You lie George. "Truth PLEASE!" <comments@hiv-aids-factorfraud.com> wrote in message > You lie George. Indeed he does. HIV does not cause aids as I have told him for years. faggot behavior causes aids. >"Truth PLEASE!" <comments@hiv-aids-factorfraud.com> wrote in message >> >> You lie George. > >Indeed he does. >HIV does not cause aids as I have told him for years. I knew you belonged in the denialist camp of anonymous sh.ts. > >"Truth PLEASE!" <comments@hiv-aids-factorfraud.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I knew you belonged in the denialist camp of anonymous sh.ts. I deny nothing. faggot behavior causes aids snip >I deny nothing. faggot behavior causes aids No, it doesn't. This has been demonstrated to you time and again yet, like any good look coward bigot-racist-homophobe closet case, you cling to your bullshit. That's what denialists do. Typical. You're utterly predictably pathetic--and I wonder what you're going to realize as you approach your own death? George M. Carter "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > No, it doesn't. This has been demonstrated to you time and again yet, You have demonstrated nothing. 25 years into the aids disease yet the straight population is uneffected. > like any good look coward bigot-racist-homophobe closet case, you > cling to your bullshit. I embrace the truth if that is what you mean. > That's what denialists do. I don't deny hiv or aids. That is just another lie you use when all else fails. > Typical. You're utterly predictably pathetic--and I wonder what you're > going to realize as you approach your own death? My death holds no fear for me. My life is not going to be spent taking drugs to prevent me from melting because I could not keep my dick out of a males shithole either. >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> >> No, it doesn't. This has been demonstrated to you time and again yet, > >You have demonstrated nothing. 25 years into the aids disease >yet the straight population is uneffected. Well, you've demonstrated you can't spell. And that you're an idiot. A coward. A liar. A bully. A bigot and a racist. So this is what I expect of you--and still wonder as you approach your own death--what will you think about? Will you realize what a waste of time you've had of it? George M. Carter "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > Well, you've demonstrated you can't spell. Golly, did I make a boo-boo? LOL 25 years into the faggot aids and 98% of population is uninfected and unaffected. faggot behavior causes aids >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >25 years into the faggot aids and 98% of population is >uninfected and unaffected. Made up statistics, I see. In most of the world, the HIV pandemic is via heterosexual transmission. The fastest rising group in the US is heterosexual transmission. It's about vaginal and anal sex. Males who have sex with males are a vulnerable population, quite true. You know this--but as usual, repeat the bigotry to satisfy your little sad itch. I wonder what you will think about as you draw your last breath and die? Perhaps how you wasted your life wallowing in ugliness and hate? George M. Carter GMCarter wrote... >>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > via heterosexual transmission. The fastest rising group in the US is > heterosexual transmission. When we discuss HIV/AIDS we are talking about the USA, because we don't give a flying f.ck about what is happening in Africa. Africa should be walled off and let the people go extinct and in a century we can go in and clean up the debris and build shopping malls on it. As for heterosexual transmission in the USA, has anyone bothered to study the subgroups accounting for the majority of new cases? I seem to recall it was the female sex partners of bisexual men who made up a large percentage, and like the UK we may be seeing a large increase among African immigrants, while the mainstream, native-born, white, heterosexual British population accounts for nearly 0% of the new cases. > It's about vaginal and anal sex. Males who have sex with males are a > vulnerable population, quite true. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > George M. Carter >GMCarter wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >walled off and let the people go extinct and in a century we can go in >and clean up the debris and build shopping malls on it. I think that's very short sighted. Given the level of discourse on this forum as too often exemplary of what humans can manage, I think the best thing would be for the entire species to be eradicated. I don't think we need to worry much--the extinction is proceeding apace. What will you look back on your life and think as you die? Your death is approaching very rapidly you know. Is this what you want your life and legacy to reflect? A sad, pathetic, closet case racist spew? LOL...so sad, so lame, so pathetic. George M. Carter snip >400,000 people did NOT live normal lafespans in the last 20 years of >your HIV/AIDS quackery. Actually, some 25 million men, women and children died AIDS, the vast majority of whom did not live a normal lifespan. > >According to who's WHOs statistics? Tell me Goerge, where you out in > >Africa counting everyone? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > regurgitating. Here: > http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/focuson/hiv/pdf/TheAIDSHeresies.pdf OK. I went to your link and tried to read STEVE HARRIS' great wisdom. He starts out talking about smoking and lung cancer stats. A good case study when you consider that a majority of lung cancer patients were smokers (though not the 90% he cites) and that there is strong statistical evidence that smoking causes lung cancer, even though the majority of smokers do NOT get lung cancer. But here where the bait and switch thinking is implemented. Over 90% of the people with HIV infection at ANY given time do NOT have AIDS. This article gets you saying YES DOCTOR, YES DOCTOR, YES DOCTOR...then they throw you the curve. Simon says: HIV=AIDS...YES DOCTOR I couldn't bring myself to suffer through the rest of this and take time to break it all apart bit by tedious bit. Blind trust in the AID$ industry is what this is all about. Just keep believing that HIV is the cause of AIDS even if it takes 140 years to happen! (despite the lifespan of all retroviruses like HIV being only three weeks) The VAST majority of HIV infected people don't even know they are sick? Gee..Let's run out and tell them!!!!!!! You need our Drugs NOW!!! Get more money for this cause!!! When people don't die, it's Because OUR DRUGS SAVED THEM!!!! It's hard to believe Americans can fall for this. visit this site and learn the truth. http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com HIV/AID$ is without a doubt the biggest medical fraud of all time. Look at the people who started it, Robert Gallo and David Baltimore. (these are George's buddies) > You're arguments are just utter crap, dear. As usual, they merely > demonstrate that most denialists are intellectually challenged at > best. Oh really? Well our alive and healthy HIV positives are beginning to outnumber your medicated and DEAD!!! > At worst, they pretend their HIV+ status is irrelevant. Til they > develop opportunistic infections and die needlessly. > > Like David Pasquarelli and so many others. (HEAL/Sydney chapter for > example). HEAL people are alive and well all over the world. You keep bringing up Pasquarelli, and never mention that he was thrown in prison for disputing your HIV/AID$ madness. How many people die in prison at a young age? This is what they do to people who resist your crap. TruthPLEASE! snip >I could engage in this for hours George, but I think I would rather >refer the readers to the BMJ debate where you and the others were so >badly mauled. Or was it the Yahoo debate. Don't know about the Yahoo one, but the BMJ debate--well, let's let readers decide who got "mauled"....in my view, it was the denialists. Their grasp of science is meager at best. See: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7387/495#32532 http://aidsmyth.blogspot.com/ http://www.aidstruth.org/howimmunoassayswork.php http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/10/aids_and_viral_load.php or http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/02/discussion_of_the_padian_paper.php There's lots more. And no. I don't take money from pharma. That's just one of your f.cking lies. I think YOU guys take money from pharma as part of swift boating campaigns against those of us who HATE how pharma has raped science and people (many to death) with their greed. George M. Carter GMCarter wrote... > snip > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > exchange and harm reduction have helped to stem the tide of new > infections. What stemmed the tide of new HIV infections is that over the years every person who was a high risk for catching the virus eventually contracted it, leaving no one left to fall into the uninfected-to- infected category. It took years for the existing pool of heroin addicts to become infected, and all there is left now is the much smaller number of new heroin converts each year to infect. Same with homosexual men, beginning in the 1980s there were generations of gay men who were HIV- and they provided for the huge explosion in new HIV infections among gay men. Gay men still do get infected, but only the youngest generation can account for the new infections because the older generations are already infected. One statistic I would like to see in CDC reports is the number of self-identified MSMs getting tested for HIV and the number of those tests that come back positive. I've never seen that figure and I'm sure it's an official secret, because I suspect that the positive test rate approaches 100% for that group. > Prevention and treatment programs have been thwarted and stymied by > Bush and his lot of murderers and thieves--but despite them and the > psycho religious fundy nutcases, much has been done to educate people > in prevention. Before I kicked him out of my car yesterday, my insane AIDS-infected brother was babbling on how the government didn't do enough to "educate" him and his fellow members of the gay community about proper condom use. Not that it matters, now that he's been so educated, he doesn't bother to wear one while f.cking warted sphincters at the the bathhouse or behind the dumpster. And while I dislike George W. Bush, my brother was barebacking behind dumpsters throughout the entire Clinton administration. But it isn't Clinton's fault, it really is evil Newt Gingrinch's fault for slashing the increase in the AIDS propaganda budget from $2.75 trillion to $2.68 trillion. |
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