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brainfart - 28 Nov 2006 04:28 GMT
Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
behavior so as to increase chances of transmission.

The rabies virus works this way, attacking the part of the brain that
controls aggression and causing the host to bite other animals and
transmit the virus via saliva.  Similarly, the HIV virus may be able
to control the part of the brain controlling the sex drive and cause
the host to be promiscuous and transmit the virus via semen.

It's been known for some time that the antiviral drugs do not pass
through the blood/brain barrier, providing refuge for the HIV virus
and time for it to attack whatever brain regions are necessary to
make the host perpetually horny.  The increased promiscuity on the
host's part compensates for the (unproven) decreased infectiousness
provided by the antiviral drugs.

The virus exhibits a form of intelligence that results from nearly
infinite genetic recombinations.  After quintillions of replications,
random chance dictates that a particular viral offspring has the
right characteristics to affect the specific brain center controlling
the sex drive, and that particular mutation would enjoy a survival
advantage and eventually predominate.  Antiviral drugs are not even
necessary, this evolutionary process could easily have occurred in
the SIV ancestor in monkeys that later jumped to humans.

This would explain the gay community if you accept that a form of
viral mindcontrol is what causes them to rut like pigs in mass
orgies behind dumpsters in alleys or in cheap Palm Springs motels.
The bizarre compulsive behavior makes sense if you understand that
they have no more conscious control over it than a rabid dog that
bites you, because their brains are under the control of a virus.
Life - 28 Nov 2006 05:17 GMT
> Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
> affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
> behavior so as to increase chances of transmission.

Sorry, not YOUR theory ... this one's been around quite a long
time - the Chinese wrote about heat pathogens that promoted
the precise behaviors that we now know to be essential to the
spread of the pathogen. Smallpox, for example. And then the Black
Plague was helped along by people f.cking like crazy even
(or especially) when they knew this was important to the spread
of the pathogen. And once the "AIDS cure" drugs were announced
in the mid-1990's all the gay bars and sex clubs were opened 24/7,
even though there was no cure but there sure were a lot of horny
faggots on methamphetamine and viagra (God bless those thoughtful
doctors who prescribed viagra to HIV+ boys after their patient
caseloads had dwindled to almost nothing...).
GMCarter - 28 Nov 2006 13:03 GMT
>> Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
>> affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the precise behaviors that we now know to be essential to the
>spread of the pathogen.

Fred Shaw! Getting out your pins again? Thank heavens you were
defrocked from committing acts of acupuncture violence on hapless
paying victims.

Funny how you've turned into an even bigger coward as you've grown
older and, at least on the inside, only uglier with all that racist
cant you've been spewing.

You're like Dick Cheney, I fear. Utterly beyond hope.

        George M. Carter
Life - 28 Nov 2006 17:11 GMT
>>> Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
>>> affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Fred Shaw! Getting out your pins again?

So sorry, George Mary ... not FShaw, but I knew that the Chinese
reference would get the ample hair on your back to stand up.

lol!
GMCarter - 29 Nov 2006 10:38 GMT
>>>> Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
>>>> affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>So sorry, George Mary ... not FShaw, but I knew that the Chinese
>reference would get the ample hair on your back to stand up.

LOL. You most certainly are Fred Shaw. Not "FShaw" or "Pshaw" or even
frod show, tho it is a good nickname for you.
Life - 30 Nov 2006 18:18 GMT
> LOL. You most certainly are Fred Shaw.

Not.

But you ARE paranoid!
Death - 30 Nov 2006 20:39 GMT
"Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message

> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> But you ARE paranoid!

Poor Carter, must be the effects of boxwood extract.
Either that or the gases of having his head up his a.s tooooo long.
brainfart - 28 Nov 2006 18:21 GMT
Life wrote...
>                ... And once the "AIDS cure" drugs were announced
> in the mid-1990's all the gay bars and sex clubs were opened 24/7,
> even though there was no cure but there sure were a lot of horny
> faggots on methamphetamine and viagra (God bless those thoughtful
> doctors who prescribed viagra to HIV+ boys after their patient
> caseloads had dwindled to almost nothing...).

I remember there being controversy over whether Medicare and even
private insurance should pay for Viagra, and I'm sure there will
soon be a political campaign to prohibit prescribing it to the
sex offenders who have become the new boogeymen in our society,
but I have heard no public outcry over prescribing it to AIDS
patients.

I'll check, but I'm pretty sure that most AIDS patients in the U.S.
are covered under Ryan White and various other public medical
programs, and that even routine non-AIDS treatment is also covered
because in a sense HIV affects all aspects of the body (e.g. my
HIV+ fucktard of a brother gets free dental treatment while I had
to pay $1800 for my recent root canal).  Assuming the theory that
HIV increases sexual drive remains unproven, it could be proven
that one or more drugs that are a part the standard cocktail
therapy cause impotence and that Viagra and the other hard-on
pills should be provided as part of the standard AIDS treatment.

Then consider than that pharmaceutical companies would have no
financial interest in learning whether HIV affects sexual behavior,
and have lots of financial interest in expanding the number of
prescriptions for Viagra and Levitra (and then the future
prescriptions for the antiviral drugs).  With this in mind, do you
think Congress would ever restrict the practice of prescribing
these drugs to STD patients?

And a personal anecdote about my insane, meth-using, HIV+ fucktard
of a brother who came to visit me as I lived on the Mexican border
a couple of years ago:  He was totally psychotic and ranted on and
on 24/7, and half the time he was babbling on about how we needed
to cross the border so he could by Viagra and Levitra.  I'm serious,
even though he did not have a penny to his name, he actually
believed I was going to purchase several hundred dollars of these
pills for him to take back to Vegas to party with.  Needless to say
I didn't take him across, though in retrospect I wish I had then
informed Mexican authorities (who deport sick Americans immediately)
right after informing U.S. authorities (who bar entry to those with
HIV, even if they're American, I think).
Death - 28 Nov 2006 18:48 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> I'll check, but I'm pretty sure that most AIDS patients in the U.S.
> are covered under Ryan White and various other public medical
> programs,

If you, not you personally, wanted to cure aids, you just named the cure.
Dry up all the money programs and aids would be gone within a month.

I'm sure there is a disease with a test standing by -but has no cure-
to take its place should that happen.

Excuses would sound something like:

oh, gee, what dopes we were, we didn't isolate hiv,
that was Lai/IIIb, but they are so similar it was a natural mistake.

We need to re-search this more and we need money, plenty of money.
Life - 30 Nov 2006 18:21 GMT
> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If you, not you personally, wanted to cure aids, you just named the cure.
> Dry up all the money programs and aids would be gone within a month.

A lot of truth in these words.

And for a bunch of silly faggots whose faith-based belief in HIV as
the cause for AIDS, isn't it interesting that it NEVER seems to occur
to them to quarantine the infected or, for that matter, to keep their
own zippers up?

Cuba quarantined and Cuba is AIDS-free.

Go figger.
Death - 30 Nov 2006 19:37 GMT
"Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message

> A lot of truth in these words.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Go figger.

I find it strange to say the least that Gallo who worked
to create a weapons-grade virus for the grub-ment, quits
that job when Luc Montagnier discovers (what was going on)
and got paid off with half the credit for HIV (isolation)
just happens to have a test a short time after-wards.

I wonder how HIV/AIDS, low CD4 count and viral loads got caught
up in pigs with PSSR. That is an amazing test, no?
Heck it is also used in plant-life. I guess to check the pussy-willow
and dick-weed for STDs.

peer reviewed
Volume 55 (2) : February, 2002
Irish Veterinary Journal 73

peer reviewed
Detection of antibody to porcine reproductive and respiratory
syndrome (PRRS) virus:

Irish Veterinary Journal
Volume 55: 73 -75, 2002

Porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome (PRRS) is a
cause of major economic loss to the global pig industry. The
syndrome was first recorded in North America in 1987 and since
then it has become endemic throughout large areas of the
world. The causative agent, PRRS virus, was first isolated in the
Netherlands in 1991

http://www.veterinaryireland.ie/ivj/feb02/Vet-PeerRev-Feb022.pdf
RamRod Sword of Baal - 01 Dec 2006 17:35 GMT
>> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Go figger.

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cu.html

According to the CIA factbook, in 2003 there were 3,300 (estimate) people
living with HIV/AIDS in Cuba, and less than 200 (estimate) had died.

According to this report, the quarantine is not locking people up and
throwing away the key.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2003/denver_2003/2770631.stm

>>The quarantine system includes eight weeks of education and drug support,
>>after which the patient is free to leave - although, many choose to stay,
>>according to Dr Barksdale.<<

--------------------

http://www.who.int/hiv/pub/prev_care/en/cuba.pdf

According to WHO, in 1993 only 40% of the people living with HIV were is
sanatoriums in Cuba, as it was voluntary if you wanted to live there or not.

----------------------------

It is interesting to see that they say these sanatoriums are like suburban
communities with one and two bedroom apartments with a small garden,
surrounded by lush bushland, one would have to only guess at the unholy
screams from the Religious Reich of America, if it was suggested to spend
money on such places in the USA.
Death - 01 Dec 2006 17:51 GMT
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod @truthonly> wrote in message

> According to WHO, in 1993 only 40% of the people living with HIV were is
> sanatoriums in Cuba, as it was voluntary if you wanted to live there or not.

"Bernard Hubbard" <bernard1958@west.net.au> wrote in message

>  BTW why post something almost 3 years old trying to pass it off as something
> new?

That is 13 years prof perv. Are you not going to whine?
Bernard Hubbard - 02 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT
>"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod @truthonly> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> That is 13 years prof perv. Are you not going to whine?

You're a fuckwit Death.  I was not replying to your Cuba story, but
something entirely different.  Please check your threads, if you know
how.

--

"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus
handicapped."~Elbert Hubbard to quote a relative of mine.

Bernard Hubbard
Death - 02 Dec 2006 13:54 GMT
"Bernard Hubbard" <bernard1958@west.net.au>

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> something entirely different.  Please check your threads, if you know
> how.

I know prof. I just applied your comment where it could
be put to better use.
I notice a 13 yo story didn't get you panties in a wad.
You whine selectively
RamRod Sword of Baal - 02 Dec 2006 18:11 GMT
> "Bernard Hubbard" <bernard1958@west.net.au>
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> I notice a 13 yo story didn't get you panties in a wad.
> You whine selectively

Actually what I wrote was >>> According to WHO, in 1993 only 40% of the
people living with HIV were is
> sanatoriums in Cuba, as it was voluntary if you wanted to live there or
> not.<<

It was an error in writing on my behalf, as they changed the law in 1993,
and it was voluntary from that time onward if you stayed or left the
sanatoriums. So the 1993 date was important from a point of view of that is
when they changed their laws. Obviously they did not think that locking
people up so to speak was the answer.
Life - 01 Dec 2006 18:55 GMT
>>> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> According to the CIA factbook, in 2003 there were 3,300 (estimate) people
> living with HIV/AIDS in Cuba, and less than 200 (estimate) had died.

And Auschwitz was a German Timeshare in the Polish countryside
with a free rail pass...
RamRod Sword of Baal - 02 Dec 2006 00:51 GMT
>>>> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> And Auschwitz was a German Timeshare in the Polish countryside
> with a free rail pass...

Was it now, I never knew that <dumb look>
Death - 03 Dec 2006 04:44 GMT
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod @truthonly> wrote in message

>... I never knew that <dumb look>

The Secret Origin of AIDS & HIV
   by ALAN CANTWELL JR., MD

Many people have heard the theory that AIDS is man-made.

Thirty percent of New York City blacks polled by The New York Times (October 29, 1990) actually
believe AIDS is an "ethnic weapon" designed in a laboratory to infect and kill black people.

Some people even think the AIDS conspiracy theory is more plausible than the African Green
monkey theory promoted by the leading AIDS scientists.

Actually, the monkey theory was proven wrong by researchers as far back as 1988, but most AIDS
educators continued to promote it to the public until recently.

In a media blitz in 1999, the green monkey theory was totally replaced by the chimpanzee "out
of Africa" theory, and the chimp origin of AIDS was fully accepted by the scientific community.

A phylogenetic "family tree" of primate viruses (which few people could understand) was
presented to prove that HIV was descended from a primate virus in the African bush.

Analysis of virus genetic data performed by the "supercomputer" at Los Alamos in New Mexico
indicated that HIV had "jumped species" from a chimp to a human around the year 1930 in Africa.

Los Alamos is the official home of nuclear bomb-building, alleged Chinese spies, and the
laboratory which directed secret human radiation experiments on unsuspecting civilians from the
1940s up to the beginning of the AIDS epidemic.)

At the international AIDS conference held in 2000 in South Africa, one scientist claimed the
chimpanzee virus (SIVcpz) was "ancient" and jumped species as early as 1675 but didn't
establish itself in the human population until 1930. This was dutifully reported by science
writer Laurie Garrett, who give all the time-honored reasons for the rapid spread of AIDS in
Africa: non-sterile needles, non-sterile blood products and widespread promiscuous sexual
behavior.

The Special Virus Cancer Program (1962-1977)

Conveniently forgotten by scientists and medical journalists was the fact that surgeons had
been transplanting chimpanzee parts into human beings for decades.

When Keith Reemtsma died in June 2000, at age 74, he was hailed as a pioneer in cross-species
organ transplants (now known as xenotransplantation). By 1964 he had already placed six
chimpanzee kidneys into six patients. All his patients died, but eventually Reemtsma succeeded
in many successful human-to-human organ transplants.

Much more likely to have spread animal viruses to human beings is the largely forgotten Special
Virus Cancer Program (SVCP). This research program was responsible for the development, the
seeding, and the deployment of various animal viruses, which were capable of producing cancer
and immune system damage when transferred between animal species and into human cells and
tissue.

The SVCP began in 1964 as a government-funded program of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) in
Bethesda, Maryland. Originally designed to study leukemia and lymphoma forms of cancer, the
program was soon enlarged to study all forms of cancer.

The SVCP marshalled many of the nation's finest virologists, biochemists, immunologists,
molecular biologists, and epidemiologists, at the most prestigious institutions in a
coordinated attempt to assess the role of viruses in causing human cancer. Many of the top AIDS
scientists, including Dr. Robert Gallo (the co-discoverer of HIV), Myron (Max) Essex (of "cat
AIDS" fame), and Peter Duesberg (who claims HIV is not the cause of AIDS), were connected with
the Program.

The scope of the program was international and included scientists from Japan, Sweden, Italy,
the Netherlands, Israel, and even Uganda, Africa. A main mission of the SVCP was to collect
various human and animal cancers from around the world and to grow large amounts of
cancer-causing viruses. In the process, many animal viruses were adapted to human cells. These
cultured viruses would then be shipped to researchers throughout the world.

An annual report of the accomplishments of the SVCP was published by the NCI. The 1971 SVCR
report indicates a mouse leukemia virus had been adapted to grow in human cells. A hybrid virus
a mixture of a mouse sarcoma and a cat (feline) leukemia virus was engineered and grown in cat
cells. Chicken and feline retroviruses produced cancer in monkeys. Mouse-cat virus hybrids and
feline leukemia virus were adapted to human cells in tissue culture. Thus, species jumping was
a common occurrence in these experiments. Biological Warfare, Primate Research and the SVCP.
Also joining forces with the SVCP at the NCI were the miltary's biological warfare researchers.

On October 18, 1971, President Richard Nixon announced that the army's biowarfare laboratories
at nearby Fort Detrick, Maryland, would be converted to research on the cause, prevention, and
treatment of cancer.

As part of Nixon's so-called War on Cancer, the military biowarfare unit was retitled the new
Frederick Cancer Research Center.

Litton Bionetics was named as the military's prime contractor for this project.

The 1971 annual report noted that one of the primary tasks of the now jointly connected
National Cancer Institute-Frederick Cancer Research Center was "the large scale production of
oncogenic (cancer-causing) and suspected oncogenic viruses to meet research needs on a
continuing basis." Special attention was given to primate viruses (the alleged African source
of HIV) and "the successful propagation of significant amounts of human candidate viruses."

Candidate viruses were animal or human viruses that might be capable of intiating human
cancers. And primate cancer-causing viruses were adapted to 'normal' human cells.

A steady supply of research animals (monkeys, chimpanzees, mice, and cats) was necessary, which
resulted in the establishment of breeding colonies for the SVCP. Healthy animals were shipped
in from various parts of the world for breeding purposes and experimentation; and
virus-infected animals were shipped out again to various labs.

By 1971, a total of 2,274 primates had been inoculated at Bionetics Research Laboratories,
under contract to Fort Detrick. Over 1000 of these monkeys had already died or had been
transferred to other primate centers. (Some animals were eventually released back into the
wild). By this time, experimenters had spread lymphoma-producing viruses into several species
of monkeys, and had also isolated a monkey virus (Herpesvirus saimiri) that would have a close
genetic relationship to a new Kaposi's sarcoma virus that produced the "gay cancer" of AIDS a
few years later.

In order to prime primates and other research animals to acquire cancer, their immune system
was deliberately suppressed by drugs, radiation, or cancer-causing chemicals or substances. The
thymus gland and/or the spleen was removed, and viruses were injected into newborn animals or
into the womb of pregnant animals. Some animals were also injected with malaria to keep them
chronically sick and immunodepressed.

Primates (especially newborn and baby chimpanzees) were the most favored lab animals because
they were most similar biochemically and immunologically to human beings, and because there
would be no official testing of these lab viruses on humans. An irradiated rhesus monkey colony
supplied animals for transplantation experiments.

Robert Gallo was a project officer of a primate study contracted by Bionetics that pumped
cancerous human tissue, as well as a variety of chicken and monkeys viruses into newborn
macaques (a small species of monkey). This 1971 SVCP report (NIH-71-2025) declared: "Inasmuch
as tests for the biological activity of candidate human viruses will not be tested in the human
species, it is imperative that another system be developed for these determinations and,
subsequently for the evaluation of vaccines or other measure of control. The close phylogenetic
relationship of the lower primates of man justifies utilization of these animals for these
purposes."

Researchers at Bionetics evaluated the long-term cancer effects of injecting human and animal
cancer material into various species of monkeys. Newborn monkeys, irradiated monkeys, and
monkeys primed with cancer-causing chemicals, were injected with blood ("using multiple sites
and volumes as large as possible") taken from various forms of human leukemia. In other
studies, tissue cultures infected with various animal viruses were inoculated into primates.
Many kinds of human cancer tissue were injected into the animals. How many "new" and "emerging"
viruses were created and adapted by the SVCP is not known. And it is unlikely that complete
records of this animal cancer virus experimentation will ever be examined.

Cats were also bred for leukemia and sarcoma cancer studies. An inbred germfree colony of mice
was established. Mouse cancer viruses were manipulated to produce resistant and non-resistant
strains. These adapted viruses would be employed in the 1980s in human gene replacement
experiments. Such experiments utilized a weakened strain of the mouse leukemia virus to infect
and "taxi-in" the missing genes to genetically-defective human cells.

The End of the SVCP and the Birth of AIDS

By 1977 the SVCP came to a inglorious end. According to Gallo, "Scientifically, the problem was
that no one could supply clear evidence of any kind of human tumor virus, not even a DNA virus,
and most researchers refused to concede that viruses played any role in human cancers.

Politically, the Virus Cancer Program was vulnerable because it attracted a great deal of money
and attention and had failed to produce dramatic, visible results."

Despite all this, the SCVP was the birthplace of genetic engineering, molecular biology, and
the human genome project. More than any other program it built up the field of animal
retrovirology, which led to the vital understanding of cancer and immunosuppressive
retroviruses in humans. Like manna from heaven, AIDS in gays put the virologists back in
business. And HIV, a cancer-causing and immunosuppressive retrovirus, would make Robert Gallo
the most famous scientist in the world.

Few people understand clearly that AIDS is a new form of cancer, and this aspect of AIDS has
not been publicized for obvious reasons. Physicians have always told their patients that cancer
is not contagious or sexually transmitted. Virologists wanted AIDS and "gay cancer" to be a new
disease because HIV was supposedly brand new. It was easier to blame gays for initiating this
new disease with their sexual lifestyle than it was to point the finger at scientists. And if
AIDS was connected to animal cancer research, some people might wonder if the new disease had
anything to do with all those species jumping experiments in the 1970s. Making people
understand that AIDS is cancer would only confuse them.

And so, instead of looking for the source of HIV in the thousands of animal cancer experiments
performed througout the world, the virologists insisted on looking for the source of the virus
in primates in the African rainforest.

The Pre-AIDS Gay Hepatitis B Experiments (1978-1981)

As the SVCP was winding down, thousands of gay men were signing up as guinea pigs for
government-sponsored hepatitis B vaccine experiments in New York, Los Angeles, and San
Francisco. In a few years these cities would become the epicenters for "gay-related immune
deficiency syndrome, " later known as AIDS.

Could virus-contaminated vaccines lie at the root of AIDS?

In the early 1970s the hepatitis B vaccine was developed in chimpanzees, now widely accepted as
the animal from which HIV supposedly evolved. To this day, some people are fearful about taking
the hepatitis B vaccine because of its original connection to gay men and AIDS; and older
physicians remember the original experimental hepatitis vaccine was made from the pooled blood
serum of hepatitis-infected homosexuals.

Was HIV "introduced" into gays during these vaccine trials when thousands of homosexuals were
injected in New York beginning in 1978, and in the West Coast cities in 1980-1981?

AIDS first erupted in gays living in New York City in 1979 a few months after the experiment
began in Manhattan. The astounding and statistically significant fact is that 20% of the gay
men who volunteered for the hepatitis B experiment in New York were discovered to be
HIV-positive in 1980 (a year before AIDS became "official" in 1981). This would mean that
Manhattan men had the highest incidence of HIV anywhere in the world, including Africa, the
supposed birthplace of HIV and AIDS. The fact is that definite, proven cases of AIDS in Africa
would not appear until 1982.

Some researchers are convinced that these vaccine experiments served as the vehicle through
which HIV was "introduced" into the gay population in America. Nevertheless, AIDS scientists
have downplayed any connection of AIDS with the vaccine.

My own extensive research into the hepatitis B experiments is presented in AIDS and the Doctors
of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic, published in 1988. Also included in
this book is evidence suggesting patient Zero" story of 1987, which claimed a promiscuous gay
Canadian airline steward brought AIDS to America. Montagnier "is doubtful that the American
epidemic could have developed from a single patient."

Montagnier admits that he stands apart from Robert Gallo on many matters. In a mind-blowing
statement he declares "Gallo was not a medical doctor, but rather a biochemist by training. His
limited experience with viruses at the time perhaps explains his misinterpretations and the
contaminations that occurred in his laboratory." ( Gallo has always declared himself as a
physician. If he is not, then we certainly do have a conspiracy problem on our hands.)

What is obvious from their authored books is that while the continent of Africa dies, these two
top scientists in AIDS research continue their vendetta in print, and continue to promote their
own pet theories on the origin of HIV and AIDS to an adoring scientific community.

"Gay and Straight" Strains of HIV and Sexual Preference

It is common knowledge that AIDS is a heterosexual disease in Africa,and that AIDS started
exclusively as a gay disease in the United States.

Although the public was told early on that "no one is immune from AIDS", the fact remains that
even now (20 years after the first AIDS cases) 80% of the new AIDS cases in America are gay
men, IV drug addicts, and their sexual partners. Why is this? Certainly HIV does not
discriminate between sexual preference and race! Or does it?

In the mid-1990s molecular biologists identified at least 8 different subtypes (or "clades" or
"strains") of HIV that were infecting various people around the world. Remarkably, it turns out
that the "B" strain is the predominant strain infecting gays in the U.S. Even more remarkable
is that this strain of HIV has an "affinity" to infect rectal tissue, thus explaining why gays
are more likely to get AIDS than straights. In contrast, the HIV strains common in Africa have
an affinity for vaginal and cervical cells, as well as for cells of the foreskin of the penis.
Thus, HIV is more likely to infect heterosexuals in Africa.

How do we know this? Max Essex (a Harvard veterinarian who performed pre-AIDS experiments
transferring feline leukemia virus between cat populations) tested subtype E strains of HIV
from Thailand. He discovered that this Asian strain readily infected women's genital cells of
the vagina and cervix. But the "gay" B strain of HIV did not infect them as easily.

AIDS experts tell us American AIDS came from Africa, but the strain of HIV prevalent in gay men
is almost never seen in Africa! How is this possible?

Were strains of HIV engineered to adapt easily to cells likely to be infected in gay sex? Or
adapted to genital cells involved in vaginal sex?

We know scientists in the SVCP were able to adapt certain retroviruses to infect specific kinds
of cells. As early as 1970 biowarfare scientists were learning to design certain infectious
agents (particularly viruses) that would attack the cells of certain racial groups.

More recently, in 1997, Stephen O'Brien and Michael Dean of the Laboratory of Genomic Diversity
at the National Cancer Institute have shown that one out of ten white people have
AIDS-resistant genes, whereas blacks in Africa have none.

Is this simply another peculiarity of a virus that jumped species in the African bush? Or is
HIV a designer virus, specifically adapted in its subtypes to infect certain racial groups and
gay people?

When AIDS appeared in 1981, health officials assured the "general public" that there was
nothing to fear. "AIDS is a gay disease" was the phrase repeated over and over again in a media
blitz. As late as 1987, Robert Gallo told Playboy reporter David Black, "I personally don't
know of a single case (in America) of a man getting the (AIDS) virus from a woman through
heterosexual intercourse."

In Africa, where AIDS affects men and women in equal numbers, Gallo's explanation to Black was:
"It happens, but that may be due to differences in sexual practices, more promiscuity or to a
greater incidence of venereal disease." Gallo give Playboy his reassurance of the future of
heterosexual AIDS in America: "AIDS will never become an overwhelming danger to the general
public."

Solving the Mystery of the Origin of AIDS

The pre-AIDS species jumping experiments of the Special Virus Cancer Program (SVCP) have been
largely expunged from the history of HIV and AIDS. The viral contamination problems inherent in
viral research have also been downplayed. As a result, the origin of HIV and AIDS has been
distorted and obscured.

A serious examination of the SVCP provides "missing links" to the possible laboratory origin of
HIV. The ability of SVCP scientists to produce "new" diseases with cancer-causing animal
viruses is a matter of record. The ability of animal viruses to easily contaminate laboratory
experiments and vaccine manufacture is also well known. All these factors make the man-made
theory of AIDS rational and compelling.

Some areas of HIV/AIDS history that require further analysis are:
The connection between AIDS and cancer
The connection of HIV to known (pre-AIDS) animal cancer lab viruses
The connection of the SVCP to the outbreak of AIDS
The connection of vaccine programs to the outbreak of AIDS
The connection of biological warfare research to the outbreak of AIDS
The disinformation surrounding the origin of AIDS
The disinformation blaming the "victims" of AIDS for the disease
The total secrecy of biological warfare and its implications for science
The wedding of cancer and AIDS scientists to biological warfare scientists
The "sworn to secrecy" problem of the government/military scientists
The wedding of government to medical science for military b/w purposes
The long history of secret medical experiments on unsuspecting citizens

All these factors need to be explored more fully and impartially in order to more fully
elucidate the man-made, laboratory origin of HIV and AIDS.

To continue to ignore these issues is to ignore the fate of countless millions who will die
from AIDS and other "emerging viruses" in the future.

The Special Virus Cancer Program (and biowarfare experimentation worldwide) has forever changed
the course of history of medical science, resulting in the current dangers of biological
terrorism and the fear of newly emerging man-made viruses and other infectious agents.

To study the theories of origin of HIV/AIDS and to ignore the SVCP with its biowarfare
implications is like studying the Holocaust and failing to mention the Nazis. Some readers may
find this analogy offensive, but in light of the close connection of the SVCP with the outbreak
of HIV and AIDS, it is suggested that final judgement be reserved until all the pertinent facts
are ascertained.

The SVCP and "the hand of man" lie at the root of HIV. The flowering of the worldwide epidemic
of AIDS is proof that the seeds were well planted.

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Related Websites:
http://www.bhc.edu/EastCampus/leeb/aids/index.html
http://aidsbiowar.com

Acknowledgement: I am grateful to Robert E Lee, Vincent Gammill, Billi Goldberg, and Boyd "Ed"
Graves, for their contributions of research material for this study.

[Dr. Cantwell is a medical researcher and author of AIDS & The Doctors of Death, and Queer
Blood, both published by Aries Rising Press, PO Box 29532,Los Angeles, CA 90029, USA. These
books are available on the Internet at Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble, or through mail order at
Book Clearing House @ 1-800-431-1579. ]
Chadwick Stone© - 03 Dec 2006 12:13 GMT
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>  The Secret Origin of AIDS & HIV
>     by ALAN CANTWELL JR., MD
>
> Many people have heard the theory that AIDS is man-made.

Many people are stupid, uneducated, emotional manipulates whose closest
brush with critical thinking is chosing which government program will
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Death - 03 Dec 2006 15:15 GMT
"Chadwick Stone©" <chad_stone@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

>  Death [Death@yourdoor.net] has entered into testimony

> > Many people have heard the theory that AIDS is man-made.
>
> Many people are stupid, uneducated, emotional manipulates whose closest
> brush with critical thinking is chosing which government program will
> give them the most money.

Was The 'Spanish Flu'
Epidemic Man-Made?
Sixty Million Dead In 1918-19
By Henry Makow PhD
12-2-6

In 1948 Heinrich Mueller, the former head of the Gestapo, told his CIA interrogator that the
most devastating plague in human history was man-made.

He was referring to the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 that infected 20% of the world's
population and killed between 60 and 100 million people. This is roughly 3 times as many as
were killed and wounded in World War One, and is comparable to WWII losses, yet this modern
plague has disappeared down the memory hole.

Mueller said the flu started as a US army bacteriological warfare weapon that somehow infected
US army ranks at Camp Riley KS in March 1918, and spread around the world.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/peopleevents/pandeAMEX86.html

He says that it "got out of control" but we cannot discount the horrible possibility that the
"Spanish Flu" was a deliberate elite depopulation measure, and that it could be used again.
Researchers have found connections between it and the current "Bird Flu."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4308872.stm%20

There was nothing "Spanish" about this flu. According to Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu%20

"In the U.S., about 28% of the population suffered, and 500,000 to 675,000 died. In Britain
200,000 died; in France more than 400,000. Entire villages perished in Alaska and southern
Africa. In Australia an estimated 10,000 people died and in the Fiji Islands, 14% of the
population died during only two weeks, and in Western Samoa 22%. An estimated 17 million died
in India, about 5% of India's population at the time. In the Indian Army, almost 22% of troops
who caught the disease died of it."

"Indeed, symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue,
cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, "One of the most striking of the complications was
hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding
from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred.

...Another unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults, with 99% of
pandemic influenza deaths occurring in people under 65 and more than half in young adults 20 to
40 years old. This is unusual since influenza is normally most deadly to the very young (under
age 2) and the very old (over age 70). "

MUELLER'S SOURCE

At a 1944 Nazi bacteriological warfare conference in Berlin, General Walter Schreiber, Chief of
the Medical Corps of the German Army told Mueller that he had spent two months in the US in
1927 conferring with his counterparts. They told him that the "so-called double blow virus"
(i.e. Spanish Flu) was developed and used during the 1914 war.

"But," according to Mueller, "it got out of control and instead of killing the Germans who had
surrendered by then, it turned back on you, and nearly everybody else." ("Gestapo Chief: The
1948 CIA Interrogation of Heinrich Mueller" Vol. 2 by Gregory Douglas, p. 106)

(Actually the Armistice didn't take place until August 11, 1918.)

The interrogator, James Kronthal, the CIA Bern Station Chief asked Mueller to explain "double
blow virus." It reminds me of AIDS.

Mueller: "I am not a doctor, you understand, but the 'double-blow' referred to a virus, or
actually a pair of them that worked like a prize fighter. The first blow attacked the immune
system and made the victim susceptible, fatally so, to the second blow which was a form of
pneumonia...[Schreiber told me] a British scientist actually developed it...Now you see why
such things are insanity. These things can alter themselves and what starts out as a limited
thing can change into something really terrible."

The subject of the Spanish Flu arose in the context of a discussion of typhus. Mueller said the
Nazis deliberately introduced typhus into Russian POW camps and, along with starvation, killed
about three million men. The typhus spread to Auschwitz and other concentration camps with
Russian and Polish POWS.

In the context of the Cold War, Mueller says: "If Stalin invades Europe...a little disease here
and there would wipe out Stalin's hoards and leave everything intact. Besides, a small bottle
of germs is so much cheaper than an atom bomb, isn't it? Why you could hold more soldiers in
your hand than Stalin could possibly command and you don't have to feed them clothes them or
supply them with munitions. On the other hand, the threat of war...does wonders... for the
economy." (108)

Is Mueller credible? In my opinion he is. Gregory Douglas apparently is a pseudonym for his
nephew with whom he left his papers. Normally a hoax would not run to thousands of pages. The
Interrogation is 800 pages. The Memoirs are 250 pages. The Microfilmed Archive apparently
covers 850,000 pages. Finally, the material I have read is incredibly well informed,
authoritative and consistent.

CONCLUSION

The "Elite" cult has made no secret of its desire to decrease the world population. (See Alan
Stang, Population Extermination: How Will it be Done?

http://www.etherzone.com/2006/stang112406.shtml

It's possible that World War One was a disappointment to the Elite in terms of the numbers
killed. Whether the "Spanish Flu" was deliberate or not, we cannot say. But apparently the US
Army has a record of experimenting with drugs/chemicals/bacteria on unwary soldiers. Did such
an experiment get "out of control" at Fort Riley?

http://www.rense.com/general36/history.htm

So far, the Bird Flu has only killed 160 people since 2003. Is it a harbinger of something more
deadly? Hopefully it isn't but we should be mindful of the shocking precedent set by the 1918
Influenza Pandemic.

-----

See also "Hitler's Gestapo Chief Became Top Truman Advisor"
http://www.savethemales.ca/001699.html

See also "The Influenza Pandemic of 1918" http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/%20

-- Henry Makow Ph.D. is the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing
fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys
receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com

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Death - 28 Nov 2006 16:02 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> Here's my theory...  I believe that maybe the HIV virus has the ability
> affect areas of the human brain and that it could modify the host's
> behavior so as to increase chances of transmission.
>
> The rabies virus works this way,

article reposted:

Death@yourdoor.net > wrote in message

In disturbing news for HIV patients, research now provides visual evidence that the AIDS virus
ravages some parts of the brain, even in those who follow powerful drug regimens to remain
healthy.

By using high-tech scanners, researchers from two American universities found that the brains
of HIV patients were 15 percent thinner in areas that control language, planning and movement.
It didn't matter if the patients were on a drug regimen known as HAART, which often allows
infected individuals to keep the virus from destroying the immune system.

"The drugs clearly aren't stopping the destruction of brain tissue," said study co-author Paul
M. Thompson, a neuroscience researcher at the University of California , Los Angeles .

An estimated 40 million people worldwide are infected with the AIDS virus -- about 1 percent of
those aged 15 to 49 -- and many don't have access to the antiviral medicines that have turned
HIV infection into a largely treatable condition for many in the developed world.

A large percentage of HIV patients suffer from neurological problems; one study put the number
at 40 percent.

In the new study, Thompson and his colleagues from UCLA and the University of Pittsburgh used
magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to create three-dimensional brain /images of 40 subjects. Of
those, 26 were HIV patients and 14 were healthy "controls."

The thickness of the brain in three areas -- the primary sensor, motor and premotor cortices --
was 15 percent lower in HIV patients. The other three-quarters of the brain were unaffected,
the study found.

"Now you can catch AIDS red-handed," said Thompson, who added that the study, appearing in this
week's online issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences , was the first of
its kind. "You can see the damage it inflicts on the brain in great detail."

What does this mean for HIV patients? They're likely to suffer from brain damage, Thompson
said, "although it may not get to the degree where you experience noticeable symptoms."

The next step is to determine how to stop the disease from attacking the brain. But, while the
virus can penetrate the brain, drugs typically can't because of a natural barrier that protects
the organ from foreign materials in the blood.

"The brain becomes a kind of sanctuary where the drugs can't follow," Thompson said.

Dr. Nick Fox, a professor of neurology at University College London, who's familiar with the
findings, said the new research sends an important message to health-care professionals about
the need to remember about HIV's effects on the brain.

It "reminds us of the need to aggressively treat these threats to our limited stock of gray
cells," Fox said.
Life - 28 Nov 2006 17:18 GMT
> "brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> regimens to remain
> healthy.

When one views the demented rants of HIV-neg AIDS Clingons like
George Mary Carter, one must conclude that the AIDS virus also
ravages the brains of the uninfected faggots to the point that they
work themselves into a f.ck frenzy - virtually assuring their own
infection (30 to 40 partners isn't unusual for a meth-viagra-fueled
night at the closest sex club)...

Fortunately for Carter, he obviously made the painful transition
from Twinkie Size Queen to Unfuckable Troll long ago...
 
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