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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / November 2006HIV + Longevity + Tests in 1995
If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving) from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass before AIDS manifested? I understand that a greater likelihood is about 10 years w/o detection, but that may be inaccurate, too. One more: how "accurate" were HIV tests in 1995 in detecting the presence of the virus? Difference in men or women? Thanks. Much love to you and yours -- >If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving) >from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass >before AIDS manifested? I understand that a greater likelihood is >about 10 years w/o detection, but that may be inaccurate, too. Yes, it's possible. Some people are long term non- or very slow progressors. >One more: how "accurate" were HIV tests in 1995 in detecting the >presence of the virus? Difference in men or women? Extremely, especially compared to other diagnostic techniques for other infections. Especially in places like Europe, the US, Australia, Japan and many countries in Asia and Africa (not all). George M. Carter Nobody has ever found virus particles that fit the textbook description of "HIV." You would do better to fear ghosts than this "virus," because of the highly toxic drugs prescribed to people who are healthy, and would remain so if they only knew to avoid stressors, such as the PGE2 in human semen. >Nobody has ever found virus particles that fit the textbook description >of "HIV." Again, an incorrect and unsupported statement. Even Denialist Duesberg knows that HIV exists. He just doesn't get that it causes AIDS. I'm always amazed at how so many denialists will waffle about at their convenience to say HIV doesn't cause AIDS cause Duesberg said so then say it doesn't exist (often citing the well and thoroughly refuted armchair speculators in Perth). Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind! George M. Carter Mr. Carter: If you believe in the existence of "HIV," then all I ask is for you to provide one scientific paper in which the researchers used an electron microscope to show abundant, infectious particles in someone said to be infected with "HIV" or dying of "AIDS." Those particles must fit the textbook description of "HIV" in terms of size and shape. Duesberg accepts the markers, and so has discredited himself on this issue, because one can generate these markers in the absence of a "retroviral infection," as the Perth Group and other point out. Would you care to explain to readers why you don't feel it would be a good idea at this point, more than 20 years after the supposed beginning of the "AIDS epidemic," for such an experimental endeavor not to be done? It would silence those you call "denialists" once and for all, and it would allow doctors to claim that the toxic drugs being prescribed may actually be preventing the supposed damage done by the "retrovirus." There is nothing to lose and much to gain. Until this is done, those like myself, who understand the rigorous standards of the scientific method, will continue to point out that "HIV/AIDS" appears to be nothing more than a biomedical mirage. > Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind! Gee, George Mary - the history of this newsgroup proves that YOU are a leader of the denialist movement on this newsgroup - that is, the denial of truth in the promotion of your seemingly endless HIV treatment scams. >> Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind! > >Gee, George Mary - the history of this newsgroup proves >that YOU are a leader of the denialist movement on this >newsgroup - that is, the denial of truth in the promotion >of your seemingly endless HIV treatment scams. More lies, Fred. Have you taken a bath in DNCB yet? You're the one who was claiming CURES and that it was the ONLY thing to use. But then, Rovian tactics are like that. They rely on telling horrible, smearing lies over and over, even while the "j'accuse" finger is pointing right back at you as you are a liar and a hypocrite. >>> Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > More lies, Fred. Have you taken a bath in DNCB yet? The only lie here is in your insistence that I am your nemesis "FShaw". As to DNCB - isn't it interesting how that is your only refuge from the storm of treatment scams and lies which have implicated you in the likely murder of thousands of your fellow, gay men? How the f.ck can you live with yourself? Life >>If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving) >>from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes, it's possible. Some people are long term non- or very slow > progressors. More to the point - the definition of "non progressor" includes one disturbing characteristic: the non-use of the purported "antivirals"... >>>If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving) >>>from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >More to the point - the definition of "non progressor" includes one >disturbing characteristic: the non-use of the purported "antivirals"... Well, fred, dear, you've made this idiot claim in the past repeatedly. Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV? And the implicit correlate is not accurate--that is, that a person with progressing HIV disease should never use ARV. Is that what you claim? George M. Carter >>>>If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving) >>>>from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Well, fred, dear, you've made this idiot claim in the past repeatedly. I am Life. The "idiot claim" has been well documented in the medical literature - sorry you haven't been bright enough to glean such facts. > Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV? Geee.... of all people to ask that question? Can you say "fear", "hype" or claims of "life-saving drugs"? I think you have! snip> >> Well, fred, dear, you've made this idiot claim in the past repeatedly. > >I am Life. LOL....as much as "death" is death. >The "idiot claim" has been well documented in the medical >literature - sorry you haven't been bright enough to glean such facts. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Can you say "fear", "hype" or claims of "life-saving drugs"? I see you avoided the other questions and comments. Taken a bath in DNCB yet? >>> Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I see you avoided the other questions and comments. Not at all - the question answered itself - and nobody knows that better than George Mary Carter and his ACT UP New York paid promos that pushed drugs and other poisons on HIV-infected people who weren't sick ... yet. > Taken a bath in DNCB yet? Ah yes, the DNCB diversion - didn't take Carter long, but any casual search of Google groups reveals a George Carter still tortured by the truth-tellers of ACT UP San Francisco, be it FShaw or David Pasquarelli. >>>> Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV? >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >paid promos that pushed drugs and other poisons on HIV-infected >people who weren't sick ... yet. What paid promos? What drugs? What poisons? >> Taken a bath in DNCB yet? > >Ah yes, the DNCB diversion - didn't take Carter long, but any >casual search of Google groups reveals a George Carter still tortured >by the truth-tellers of ACT UP San Francisco, be it FShaw or >David Pasquarelli. LOL. Truth? What truth, Fred? Wow. You've lived all these years and you have learned nothing. Gotten nowhere. How many days of your life do you have left? You're going to fill them with hate? It's so funny you, a homosexual, get along so well with "death" monkey-puppet, who hates gay men. Your bigotry and hate binds you. Wedding bells? "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > Wow. You've lived all these years and you have learned nothing. Gotten > nowhere. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Your bigotry and hate binds you. You never did repost any statement I made that said I hated faggots after saying that I did 3 times now. You never did provide just one (1) sock that you claim I use after says so, dozens of times. You problem is self-inflicted ignorance. I say nigger and faggot and no one becomes infected with hiv/aids. Life goes on just as it would have had I said homosexual. My (saying) what you (do) is not causing anyone to die. I wish that your actions were as honest and harmless as the words I use. >>>>> Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What paid promos? What drugs? What poisons? After admitting that you have taken cash and perks from slime like Arkopharma France or your own financial interests in scum such as DAAIR, how dare you challenge that fact! >>> Taken a bath in DNCB yet? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL. Truth? What truth, Fred? Fred? Not. The truth? Self-evident! > It's so funny you, a homosexual, get along so well with "death" > monkey-puppet, who hates gay men. Isn't it interesting how fags think every other man is also a fag? "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message > Isn't it interesting how fags think every other man is also a fag? The faggots know how nasty that insult is, they live it. As I have pointed out to Carter ( if that is his real name) I have never called him a white heterosexual man. Where is the insult in that!?
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