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JOHN - 01 Nov 2006 11:04 GMT
"He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say
that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage --  
they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You can
smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him."-Dr Schulze,
who cured 16 from last stage full-blown AIDS.
http://www.whale.to/c/shulze.html

16 out of 16.

allopaths nil out of a few million, assuming you believe the HIV AIDS
bullshit
Bryan Heit - 01 Nov 2006 15:36 GMT
> "He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say
> that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage --  
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> allopaths nil out of a few million, assuming you believe the HIV AIDS
> bullshit

And the evidence of this claim is - nothing, yet again.  No interviews
with the supposedly cured patients.  No identification of said patients.
 No hospital records.  No story in a respectable news outlet.  No
thriving clinic curing HIV patients.  No report in a medical journal.
No proof from any source other then Schulze himself.

Why is that.  Why is it his claims cannot be substantiated by *ANY*
exterior source.  Not even his own patients have come forwards - you'd
think they be singing this guys praises.

Once again, John has posted unproven, and unprovable claims.  Why is it
John that none of your claims can ever be substantiated by outside sources?

Bryan
JOHN - 01 Nov 2006 19:16 GMT
> Once again, John has posted unproven, and unprovable claims.  Why is it
> John that none of your claims can ever be substantiated by outside
> sources?
>
> Bryan

how would you know, you never get outside pharma land

like the fact vitamin C cures infections and prevents cot-death?
http://www.whale.to/a/levy_h.html

is that one of your unprovable claims?

"Many viral infectious diseases have been cured  and can continue to be
cured by the proper administration of Vitamin C.  Yes, the vaccinations for
these treatable infectious diseases are completely unnecessary when one has
the access to proper treatment with vitamin C.  And, yes, all the side
effects of vaccinations...are also completely unnecessary since the
vaccinations do not have to be given in the first place with the
availability of properly dosed vitamin C."---Dr Thomas Levy M.D., J.D.
(Vitamin C,  Infectious Diseases and Toxins p30)

"Amazingly, vitamin C has actually already been documented in the medical
literature to have readily and consistently cured both acute polio and acute
hepatitis, two viral diseases still considered by modern medicine to be
incurable." - Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD

All three children had different doctors. The little girl under Klenner's
care was given 10,000 mg of vitamin C as a slow intravenous "push" with a 50
cc syringe every eight hours for the first 24 hours and then every 12 hours
for two more doses. Following this she was given 1,000 mg of vitamin C every
two hours by mouth. Klenner also notes that a 40,000-unit dose of antitoxin
was injected into the little girl's abdomen. The other two children received
the antitoxin as well, but they did not receive any vitamin C. They both
died but Klenner's patient survived, later becoming a nurse. ---Vitamin C,
Infectious Diseases, and Toxins: Curing the Incurable by Thomas E. Levy,
M.D., J.D.

"Acute viral hepatitis...is easily and completely curable with treated
promptly with adequate doses of vitamin C ...some evidence  indicates that a
high dose of vitamin C for a long enough period of time would probably
resolve (chronic hepatitis) as well in many of the cases.......A significant
benefit of properly dosed vitamin C would be the elimination of any need or
reason to vaccinate people against hepatitis."---Dr Thomas Levy M.D., J.D.
(Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases and Toxins pgs 60, 66)
Bryan Heit - 01 Nov 2006 19:57 GMT
And once again John has avoided the question - I asked him to provide
proof from someone other then Schulze himself, and instead of answering
the question, John threw up a strawman.

So John, I'll ask you again (not that you have the courage to actually
answer the question):  Why is there no evidence, aside from Schulze's
own claim, that he cured HIV?  Why aren't there reports from the
patients he saved, or something in the medical literature, or the
regular press?

I googled, and the only other pages I could find simply repeated
Schulze's claims, and more often then not, linked to Schulze's web
pages.  Certainly, if he achieved what he claimed, there would be at
least one independent source confirming it!

Bryan
JOHN - 01 Nov 2006 22:00 GMT
> And once again John has avoided the question - I asked him to provide
> proof from someone other then Schulze himself, and instead of answering
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Bryan

poor Brian, living in pharma land, any unblinkered investigation into
natural healing would show anyone the power of naturopathic herbalism
http://www.whale.to/w/nat.html

and who cares what you pharma boys think, you are stuck in allopath land
where nothing gets cured as drugs are useless except to milk folk for years,
while killing them slowly, or not so slow 780,000 every year now.

"The machinery looks good, the technology seems nice, the stainless steel is
shiny, everything smells like isopropyl alchohol; I mean they are the
greatest salesmen in the world.  We're going to go look back at this century
and we're going to laugh eventually, but we'll cry first.  This is one of
the most barbaric periods.  It's going to be called the Dark Ages of
Medicine."----Dr Schulze (The Sam Biser Herbal Video Collection p198)
Bryan Heit - 01 Nov 2006 23:55 GMT
And once again John completely fails to answer the question.

Why is it John that you have so much trouble answering such simple
questions?

Once again (third time now), please provide *one link* to a second
source who witnessed, or experienced, this cure to HIV.  Some people who
should be able to provide verification:

1) The patients involved
2) Friends and family of #1
3) Assistants, nurses, secretaries, etc, present during the therapy
4) News report(s) published at the time
5) Medical case reports
6) Other people who have successfully used the treatment

Now John, why is it you've failed after being asked *two times in a row*
to provide this evidence?  Why is it you answer these challenges with
strawman after strawman?  Why is it you consistently fail to provide
even the most marginal proof that your claims are true?

Or, to be more succinct, why can you not provide verification of your
claims?

Bryan
JOHN - 03 Nov 2006 08:48 GMT
> And once again John completely fails to answer the question.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> who witnessed, or experienced, this cure to HIV.  Some people who should
> be able to provide verification:

Why?  You're the non-believer.

And aids is easily cured with a zapper also
http://www.whale.to/a/zapper_q.html

You pharma folk can stay in fear, who cares?  It keeps your industry going,
so you have to believe all the lies and live in fear

why should I care?

In that year, I began travelling the world, lecturing and interviewing
extensively upon the subject of ozone and oxygen therapies. I called all the
major network news bureaus, including Public Radio, and reported ozone AIDS
cures coming out of Europe. Not a single reporter or show called back for
details. I wrote and sent documentation to all of the "household word" TV
talk show hosts who make their living by acting "concerned" and I tried with
all the "AIDS fundraising spokespeople", show business celebs, even sending
proof of their home addresses, but as of yet not one single phone call or
inquiry came back asking for more. The shining media lights are not the big
names who plunk down millions or give benefits for "research," but the many
brave independent talk show hosts, show producers, and health expo promoters
that have let me on to put the information out there for you. We owe them a
debt of gratitude. OZONE HAS CURED AIDS IN OVER 300 CASES--Ed McCabe
http://www.whale.to/v/mccabe.html
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 12:24 GMT
snip... OZONE HAS CURED AIDS IN OVER 300 CASES--Ed McCabe

Utter complete stinking bullshit.

I've known LOTS of people who did ozone. It never cured a single
goddamned thing.

Nor did that worthless zapper.

        George M. Carter
JOHN - 03 Nov 2006 16:34 GMT
> snip... OZONE HAS CURED AIDS IN OVER 300 CASES--Ed McCabe
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Nor did that worthless zapper.

George M. Carter the pharma shill
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 01:50 GMT
>> snip... OZONE HAS CURED AIDS IN OVER 300 CASES--Ed McCabe
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> George M. Carter the pharma shill

That's libel. I am a vociferous critic of pharma and do not take money
from them. Period.

        George M. Carter
JOHN - 04 Nov 2006 11:15 GMT
>> George M. Carter the pharma shill
>
> That's libel. I am a vociferous critic of pharma and do not take money
> from them. Period.

LOL!
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 14:22 GMT
>>> George M. Carter the pharma shill
>>
>> That's libel. I am a vociferous critic of pharma and do not take money
>> from them. Period.
>
>LOL!

OK, tit for tat. You get funded by purveyors of outrageously
overpriced bullshit "medicines" like ozone therapy.

LOL.
JOHN - 04 Nov 2006 19:27 GMT
>>>> George M. Carter the pharma shill
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> LOL.

least my crap works

your lot kill 780,000 a year before youa dd in the aids and cancer chemo
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 20:10 GMT
snip
>least my crap works

Oh my god. You're as much a f.cking lying miserable hypocritical piece
of sh.t as that Haggard a.shole.
JOHN - 05 Nov 2006 08:39 GMT
> snip
>>least my crap works
>
> Oh my god. You're as much a f.cking lying miserable hypocritical piece
> of sh.t as that Haggard a.shole.

I was going to say you are the biggest a.shole on the net, your main tag was
Killer Carter if  I recall, and Fred tagged your money trail to pharma years
ago
GMCarter - 05 Nov 2006 12:49 GMT
>> snip
>>>least my crap works
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Killer Carter if  I recall, and Fred tagged your money trail to pharma years
>ago

Why thank you, but of course, what Frod did was pull a Karl Rove and
make false claims in a setting of libel and innuendo.

Naturally, a hypocritical a.shole like you will believe those lies.
Which helps to make the case. Thank you.

        George M. Carter
Death - 05 Nov 2006 17:49 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Oh my god. You're as much a f.cking lying miserable hypocritical piece
> of sh.t as that Haggard a.shole.

faggot have smaller brains

ANIMAL KINGDOM
Lesbian tennis star slams 'gay sheep' research
Navratilova joins PETA in protest of experiments to make critters straight

Posted: November 4, 2006
7:35 p.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Martina Navratilova
Openly "gay" tennis pro Martina Navratilova has joined the People for the Ethical Treatment of
Animals in condemning researchers at two Oregon universities for trying to learn how to turn
"gay sheep" into heterosexuals.

In letters faxed to the presidents of Oregon State University and Oregon Health & Science
University, Navratilova wrote: "How can it be that, in the year 2006, a major university would
host such homophobic and cruel experiments? ... I respectfully ask that you pull the plug on
this appalling and misguided research."

The publicly financed research is being carried out by Charles Roselli of OHSU and Frederick
Stormshak of OSU and is funded through 2007.

Navratilova's announcement generated a small firestorm in the homosexual press, with the UK's
Gay.com reporting that the researchers' ultimate goal was "to extrapolate the test results to
humans - with the insidious implication that homosexuality in people can be 'cured.'"

"For the sake of the animals who will die unnecessarily in these experiments and for the many
gays and lesbians who stand to be deeply offended by the social implications of these tests,"
Navratilova wrote, "I ask that you please end these studies at once."

The researchers, however, are concerned primarily with the economic - not social - implications
to sheep producers of non-mating stock.

Researchers at the Dubois, Idaho, federal sheep experiment station first reported the refusal
of some rams to mate with female sheep in 1995. Of the celibate rams, some showed no interest
in either males or females but others preferred other rams.

"This is a costly problem for sheep producers because breeding rams are worth $300 to $500
each," said Stormshak in 1997. "Outwardly, there is no way to tell whether a ram is
male-oriented so the producer runs the costly risk of buying an animal that will never produce
any offspring."

Sheep producers lose thousands of dollars each year from the purchase of breeding rams that
turn out to be male-oriented, Stormshak added. About eight to 10 percent of total ram numbers
are male-oriented, he said.

Stormshak's analysis of tissue and blood samples led to the finding that male-oriented rams
converted less testosterone to estrogen in their brains, and that these rams have reduced
capacity for production of testosterone, compared to female-oriented rams. In his research he
has tested estrogen implants in the brains of male-oriented rams to see if it would change
behavior.

OHSU researchers found a difference between "straight" and "gay" rams in one region of the
hypothalamus. While the region is generally twice as large in rams as in ewes, in male-oriented
rams it was nearly identical in size to hat in normal females. Similar differences have been
found in the brains of homosexual men, but since most of those studied had died of AIDS-related
illnesses, scientists were unable to say whether the condition was related to disease or sexual
orientation.

The work of OSU and OHSU researchers was cited by New Scientist in 2002 as an apparent
confirmation of the controversial suggestion that there is a biological basis for
homosexuality.

Identifying brain structure in a sheep is fatal for the animal so researchers are currently
trying to find ways to block brain-altering hormones in pregnant sheep to prevent changes in
their offspring that affect mating behavior.

For Navratilova and PETA, that is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

"Surely you can find a way to redirect the millions of public tax dollars that are being wasted
on these experiments to a more fruitful venture - perhaps by funding a gay and lesbian
community center to foster dialogue and acceptance for people of all sexual preferences?," the
tennis star wrote.
GMCarter - 05 Nov 2006 20:07 GMT
>faggot have smaller brains

Size matters to you, of course. It's why you're so conflicted, I'm
sure.
Death - 05 Nov 2006 21:22 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >faggot have smaller brains
>
> Size matters to you, of course. It's why you're so conflicted, I'm
> sure.

Can you not keep your mind off of a strangers dick long enough
to stay on the topic at hand? LOL, silly question, you Did Not.
GMCarter - 06 Nov 2006 11:34 GMT
>Did Not

Did too.

neener
Bryan Heit - 03 Nov 2006 17:03 GMT
And once again john has failed to provide a second source confirming his
claims.

Whats the matter John, can't you find any proof that this cure actually
happened.

As for your new claim - could you please provide a link to a statement
by any of the supposed 300 people who've been cured.

Bryan
JOHN - 03 Nov 2006 17:50 GMT
> And once again john has failed to provide a second source confirming his
> claims.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Bryan

I know it works Bryan, so why would I want to convince you?  You pharma boys
can't believe in the truth anyway.

I post for people interested in the truth, not for pharma morons, except to
annoy them.

cheers

"Amazingly, vitamin C has actually already been documented in the medical
literature to have readily and consistently cured both acute polio and acute
hepatitis, two viral diseases still considered by modern medicine to be
incurable." - Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD
Bryan Heit - 03 Nov 2006 18:27 GMT
>> And once again john has failed to provide a second source confirming his
>> claims.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I post for people interested in the truth, not for pharma morons, except to
> annoy them.

But all I'm asking for is proof that your claims are the truth.  But all
you've made is unsubstantiated claims.  You've been completely unable to
provide a link to one person who experience the cures, other than the
people who claim to have found the cure.  So out of about 316 people you
claim so far have been cured of HIV, you've not been able to link us to
a claim by a single one of these supposed patients that were cured, or a
link to a news report about it, or a link to comments made by their
friends/family.

You'd think with all these people being cured of HIV there would be at
least *one* patient, or *one* family member, or *one* nurse, or *one*
whatever who would have commented on the cure in public.

So why isn't there?

Bryan
JOHN - 03 Nov 2006 22:02 GMT
> But all I'm asking for is proof that your claims are the truth.  But all
> you've made is unsubstantiated claims.  You've been completely unable to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Bryan

"In public"   You wont see anything in the What To Think Network, aka the
Media

in fact you wont even know people like Shulze exist

"There is not one, but many cures for cancer available.   But they are all
being systematically suppressed by the ACS, the NCI and the major oncology
centres.   They have too much of an interest in the status quo."--Dr Robert
Atkins, M.D.
JOHN - 03 Nov 2006 22:08 GMT
> You'd think with all these people being cured of HIV there would be at
> least *one* patient, or *one* family member, or *one* nurse, or *one*
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Bryan

PS, you wont have heard of this heart disease cure either, since you rely on
propaganda for information http://www.whale.to/a/fonorow.html 
http://www.vitamincproject.com/

they couldn't manage to erase Pauling but you wont have heard of his
comments:

"Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control
of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes. [The proper therapy]
can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it.". --Linus Pauling.
Heart disease is caused by vitamin deficiencies!

sent to every paper

yawn
DavidT - 06 Nov 2006 09:17 GMT
> > And once again john has failed to provide a second source confirming his
> > claims.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I know it works Bryan, so why would I want to convince you?

YOU know it works???? All we want to know is HOW you know this.
Perhaps you could provide some information to enable the rest of
humanity to see that it works too.

> I post for people interested in the truth, not for pharma morons, except to
> annoy them.

You don't annoy people, merely reveal yourself to be full of BS with
your idiotic and unsupported claims. If anything you elicit sympathy
rather than any other emotion.
Bryan Heit - 06 Nov 2006 16:02 GMT
>>> And once again john has failed to provide a second source confirming his
>>> claims.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Perhaps you could provide some information to enable the rest of
> humanity to see that it works too.

For that matter, if he knows it works why won't he let me infect him
with HIV, and then cure himself?

Of course, his beliefs are not even consistent.  He doesn't think that
HIV exists, and yet he thinks their's a cure for it.  I'm not sure how
you can cure something that doesn't exist, but, well John isn't exactly
know for logical thought...

Bryan
DavidT - 07 Nov 2006 17:21 GMT
> Of course, his beliefs are not even consistent.  He doesn't think that
> HIV exists, and yet he thinks their's a cure for it.  I'm not sure how
> you can cure something that doesn't exist, but, well John isn't exactly
> know for logical thought...
>
> Bryan

And not just one cure for AIDS, but dozens......
All the natural remedies from people like Schulz who awards himself his
own doctorates, electro-zapping from the Hulda Clark clones, bubbly
Ozone for hundreds of others.... the list seems inexhaustible, but
there is one common factor:
None of these cures has ever been demonstrated to work.
JOHN - 07 Nov 2006 19:38 GMT
> And not just one cure for AIDS, but dozens......
> All the natural remedies from people like Schulz who awards himself his
> own doctorates, electro-zapping from the Hulda Clark clones, bubbly
> Ozone for hundreds of others.... the list seems inexhaustible, but
> there is one common factor:
> None of these cures has ever been demonstrated to work.

how do you know that?
DavidT - 10 Nov 2006 08:58 GMT
> > None of these cures has ever been demonstrated to work.
>
> how do you know that?

When I see any studies to that effect published as a peer-reviewed
article in a mainline medical or scientific journal then I will know
that they work.
Finding a cure for AIDS would be one of the major medical events of the
century, and the prestigious journals would be salivating at the chance
to publish any proper research.

Where are they?
If you know where there is evidence that these cures work please tell
us.
JOHN - 10 Nov 2006 21:37 GMT
>> > None of these cures has ever been demonstrated to work.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> If you know where there is evidence that these cures work please tell
> us.

oh please, you must  have been born yesterday (nice birth?)
http://www.whale.to/m/therapies.html
GMCarter - 10 Nov 2006 22:06 GMT
snip

>oh please, you must  have been born yesterday (nice birth?)
>http://www.whale.to/m/therapies.html

Ozone doesn't work for HIV.
JOHN - 11 Nov 2006 17:12 GMT
> snip
>>
>>oh please, you must  have been born yesterday (nice birth?)
>>http://www.whale.to/m/therapies.html
>
> Ozone doesn't work for HIV.

aids troll Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2006 18:10 GMT
"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote in message

> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>
> >
> > Ozone doesn't work for HIV.
> >
> aids troll Carter

If he doesn't sell it, it doesn't work.
If Carter doesn't say it, it isn't so.
If Carter doesn't see it, it has to be a lie.
If it isn't Carters opinion it is bigoted.

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GMCarter - 12 Nov 2006 11:51 GMT
>"JOHN" <john@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>If Carter doesn't see it, it has to be a lie.
>If it isn't Carters opinion it is bigoted.

So you support the use of ozone and use as your evidence a commercial
site from Kampala?

Most curious!
Death - 13 Nov 2006 16:57 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> So you support the use of ozone and use as your evidence a commercial
> site from Kampala?

I advocate no drug/drug test
I posted that so it could be read, period.

How about you? Do you post for gain?
GMCarter - 14 Nov 2006 00:27 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>I advocate no drug/drug test

What in the world are you burbling about? Are you drunk?

>I posted that so it could be read, period.

LOL....you have no motivations at all. You hate faggots.

>How about you? Do you post for gain?

Sure. Gain of knowledge; sharing of knowledge. In the process of
helping people make good treatment choices so more of my friends stay
alive and well longer.

        George M. Carter
Death - 14 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>

> >> >If he doesn't sell it, it doesn't work.
> >> >If Carter doesn't say it, it isn't so.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> What in the world are you burbling about? Are you drunk?

Real good Carter, real good response, wink wink.
If I advocate drugs/drug testing say so, you counter-fit c.nt.

> >I posted that so it could be read, period.
>
> LOL....you have no motivations at all. You hate faggots.

There ya go. I hate faggots so I posted an article.
That is as funny as you wanting to help people by
pushing your poison cures down their cock-suckers.
GMCarter - 14 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Real good Carter, real good response, wink wink.
>If I advocate drugs/drug testing say so, you counter-fit c.nt.

LOL...You truly are funny. So now you are claiming people should NOT
get tested or get treatment?

If that's the case, why in the hell are you here?

>> >I posted that so it could be read, period.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>That is as funny as you wanting to help people by
>pushing your poison cures down their cock-suckers.

There is no cure for AIDS. But you think people should NOT take HIV
meds, then,  yes?

Why, my heavens, I do believe you're sounding a lot like Frodlet!

        George M. Carter
Death - 14 Nov 2006 16:53 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:20:11 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >> >>
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> LOL...You truly are funny. So now you are claiming people should NOT
> get tested or get treatment?

Do you see where I said that or are you having to pervert
the obvious to achieve a goal you can not obtain?

> There is no cure for AIDS. But you think people should NOT take HIV
> meds, then,  yes?

Take all the meds you wish or not. As I have said
and you have tried to pervert, I advocate no drug/drug test.
GMCarter - 14 Nov 2006 23:56 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
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>Do you see where I said that or are you having to pervert
>the obvious to achieve a goal you can not obtain?

What goal? Merely getting you to clarify your position?
LOL...undoubtedly you will remain obfuscatory.

        George M. Carter
Death - 15 Nov 2006 00:07 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >I advocate no drug/drug test
> >> >>
> What goal? Merely getting you to clarify your position?

Well I can see where you would be confused.
Advocating drugs is in your best interest.
GMCarter - 15 Nov 2006 11:03 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> >
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>Well I can see where you would be confused.
>Advocating drugs is in your best interest.

I advocate access to treatment! You bet. Drugs are one form of
treatment--and one shown to be effective in HIV disease, albeit with
limitations and caveats. Like a lot of treatments.

So you think drugs are bad and people shouldn't have them. That way,
they can die of AIDS, and you can be happy that more people you hate
have died.

That's the only source of happiness you have in your life of misery
and hate: the suffering of otthers?

        George M. Carter
Death - 15 Nov 2006 15:59 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >> > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >> >> >> >>
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> they can die of AIDS, and you can be happy that more people you hate
> have died.

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message

> Take all the meds you wish or not. As I have said
> and you have tried to pervert, I advocate no drug/drug test.

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message

> Take all the meds you wish or not.
GMCarter - 15 Nov 2006 16:08 GMT
snip.>>

>> So you think drugs are bad and people shouldn't have them. That way,
>> they can die of AIDS, and you can be happy that more people you hate
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>> Take all the meds you wish or not. As I have said
>> and you have tried to pervert, I advocate no drug/drug test.

Wow! What a controversial and insightful position!

So what in the world are you doing here anyway?
Death - 15 Nov 2006 17:17 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >>
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>
> So what in the world are you doing here anyway?

SURE-ly you know, LOL. Laughing at your gerbil stuffing lies.

Which one of my thousands of sup-posedly socks said that!?
GMCarter - 15 Nov 2006 18:47 GMT
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>> So what in the world are you doing here anyway?
>>
>SURE-ly you know, LOL. Laughing at your gerbil stuffing lies.

Wow. Really? See, there again you have it.

You're laughing at yourself--twisting on the spit of your own bigotry,
wallowing in the agony of hate.

What a sad way to live!
Life - 30 Nov 2006 17:52 GMT
> snip
>>> So what in the world are you doing here anyway?
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>
> What a sad way to live!

Indeed, it would seem quite a motivator for Troll Carter
who hasn't missed a newsgroup for more than an hour
and well over a decade of his trollup smacktard posts...
Life - 19 Nov 2006 21:12 GMT
> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>
>
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>> >> >If Carter doesn't see it, it has to be a lie.
>> >> >If it isn't Carters opinion it is bigoted.

Looks like Death has George Mary Carter down pat!
Death - 19 Nov 2006 22:25 GMT
"Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
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>
> Looks like Death has George Mary Carter down pat!

Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman
Brian Mailman - 20 Nov 2006 19:59 GMT
> "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message
>>
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> Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
> Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman

Making you dance again, huh?

Dance, monkey.... dance.

B/
Death - 21 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT
> > "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message
> >>
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>
> Making you dance again, huh?

I called the hemorrhoid but an a.shole shows up instead, go figure.
Brian Mailman - 21 Nov 2006 05:00 GMT
>> > "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message
>> >>
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>>
>> Making you dance again, huh?
Still making you dance even after you said you could stop.... must be
addicted to my posts huh.... I make you dance GOOD
Death - 21 Nov 2006 16:58 GMT
"Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message

> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman
Brian Mailman - 21 Nov 2006 19:37 GMT
> "Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message
>
>> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
>> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman

Still dancing for me, I see... dance, li'l monkey... dance... I'll keep
posting so you can hump my leg....

B/
Death - 21 Nov 2006 20:33 GMT
"Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message

> >> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
> >> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman
Brian Mailman - 22 Nov 2006 02:10 GMT
> "Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
>> >> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman

Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....

B/
Death - 22 Nov 2006 02:38 GMT
> >> >> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
> >> >> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman
> >
> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
Brian Mailman - 22 Nov 2006 22:59 GMT
Brian Mailman wrote:

>> >> >> >> > Has Carter ever fooled any-one?
>> >> >> >> > Nah, silly question, I forgot about Mailman

Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....

Still dancing, monkey, huh.... when I post, makes you post.... dance,
dance, dance for me monkey
Death - 22 Nov 2006 23:31 GMT
> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
>
> Still dancing, monkey, huh.... when I post, makes you post.... dance,
> dance, dance for me monkey
Brian Mailman - 24 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT
Brian Mailman wrote:

>> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
>>
>> Still dancing, monkey, huh.... when I post, makes you post.... dance,
>> dance, dance for me monkey

Poor li'l monkey-man, trying to be me... just keep on dancing!!
Death - 25 Nov 2006 18:13 GMT
> >> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
> >>
> >> Still dancing, monkey, huh.... when I post, makes you post.... dance,
> >> dance, dance for me monkey
Brian Mailman - 25 Nov 2006 21:32 GMT
Brian Mailman wrote:

>> >> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
>> >>
>> >> Still dancing, monkey, huh.... when I post, makes you post.... dance,
>> >> dance, dance for me monkey

Poor little monkey, trying to be me... dance, monkey, keep on dancing.

B/
Death - 26 Nov 2006 01:06 GMT
> >> >> Been a few hours, I see I can still make you dance....
DavidT - 13 Nov 2006 17:57 GMT
> oh please, you must  have been born yesterday (nice birth?)
> http://www.whale.to/m/therapies.html

You believe what you read on the whale.to site, and you think *I* was
born yesterday?

John, just give a peer-reviewed science journal publication for one
(just one) of these claims. Otherwise STFU.
EdRAWd@gmail.com - 14 Nov 2006 03:46 GMT
Forget about Schulze.  There are plenty of people who've cured
themselves.  Take me.  I'm living proof.
http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident

You'll find the simplest, but most effective, cures here:
http://sobehealthy.com

E

> And once again John has avoided the question - I asked him to provide
> proof from someone other then Schulze himself, and instead of answering
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>
> Bryan

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