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GMCarter - 25 Oct 2006 02:09 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
Death - 25 Oct 2006 03:28 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm

From the article
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It says homosexuality has been observed among 1,500 species, and that in 500 of those it is
well documented.

The exhibition - entitled Against Nature? - includes photographs of one male giraffe mounting
another, of apes stimulating others of the same sex, and two aroused male right whales rubbing
against each other.
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I wonder if that woman in the store today knows we had sex as we accidentally rubbed against
each other.

Is there anyone over the age of 10 that has not seen a female
dog mount a male dog?

Now, wanting to be compared to an ape I understand. They sh.t
in their hand and then smell it. I have seen them piss in their
own mouth for a peanut.

Not so unlike the ape, you can sit home and masturbate while thinking about Foley.

At any rate, to be put in a class with a leg hunching dog would be a step up for a faggot.
GMCarter - 25 Oct 2006 12:33 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I wonder if that woman in the store today knows we had sex as we accidentally rubbed against
>each other.

Poor woman. I'd say that was a different sort of crime.
One more related to aesthetics.
Death - 25 Oct 2006 16:29 GMT
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Poor woman. I'd say that was a different sort of crime.
> One more related to aesthetics.

If that were the case according to your article, it would be ok.
Eating of the young, stalking the weak to kill and racism would
also be natural.

Feel free to move out of your trailer and live in a tree.
The squirrels can always use another nut.
Dildeaux - 26 Oct 2006 04:04 GMT
>> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm

>> >It says homosexuality has been observed among 1,500 species, and that in
>> >500 of those it is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
> If that were the case according to your article, it would be ok.

No, you moron - "frottage" ... look it up, freak.
Death - 26 Oct 2006 07:02 GMT
"Dildeaux" <dildeaux@toys.com>

> ... look it up,

Dildo or Dildeaux
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What is a dildo?
There is some general disagreement about what precisely defines a dildo. There is general
agreement that a nonvibrating device, resembling a penis in shape, size, and overall
appearance, is a dildo. Some people include vibrating devices in this definition. Others
exclude penis prosthetic aids, also called "extensions." Some include penis-shaped items
clearly designed with vaginal penetration in mind even if they are not true approximations of a
penis. Some people include devices designed for anal penetration (butt plugs) while others do
not.

Materials
Early dildos were made of stone, wood, leather, wax or pottery. Of these, leather dildos with a
fairly solid filler of cotton rag remain popular with some people. Rubber dildos, usually
incorporating a steel spring for stiffness, became available in the 1940s. This was a less than
satisfactory arrangement because of the potential for serious injury from cuts from the spring
when the rubber finally cracked and came apart.

Later, PVC dildos with a softer PVC filler became popular. Most of the inexpensive dildos sold
today are made this way.

PVC and jelly-rubber toys have often been found to be problematic because they contain unsafe
phthalates, softeners added to many plastics that are also found in some jewelry, food
containers, and other soft rubber toys. Phthalates have been linked to health problems such as
cancer and prenatal defects. Products made of PVC or jelly rubber cannot be sterilized.
Manufacturers recommend using condoms with these toys if users share them.

In the 1990s, silicone rubber dildos became more popular, a trend that has continued as the
price has come down. These are easier to keep clean and do not have the characteristic plasticy
aroma of PVC. They were expensive when introduced but are now reasonably priced, making them an
excellent choice for the first-time user. Silicone holds body heat well, and is an excellent
conductor of vibrations, allowing users to hold a vibrator at one end. Silicone is also a
high-quality material (especially when compared to the cheap, unsafe jelly rubber that many
other dildos are made of) that can be sterilized by boiling or bleaching.

High-end, chrome-plated steel dildos are currently manufactured. Users might prefer steel as a
material because of its firmness, durability, and very low friction, especially when used in
conjunction with lubricant. Because they are heavy, they can be used to exercise vaginal PC
muscles. (Betty Dodson's "barbell" is an example.) A steel dildo may be warmed slightly or
cooled in a bath of water before use to elicit a range of temperature sensations. It may also
retain body heat of the user. Because of its polished, poreless surface, it may be sterilized
with ease in boiling water, or even in an autoclave.

Glass dildos have similar features to steel ones. Glass toys are solid, not hollow, and usually
made of aeronautical-quality Pyrex or borosilicate, although this may vary depending on
manufacturer. Like steel, glass toys may be used to apply firmer pressure than silicone can to
a female's G-spot (urethral sponge) or male's prostate gland.

Cyberskin is a synthetic material made to look and feel like human skin. Many feel that
Cyberskin does feel quite realistic. It is a porous material and cannot be sterilized. It often
gets sticky after washing (which can be remedied by a dusting of cornstarch) and is much more
delicate and prone to rips and tears than silicone dildos. "Packing dildos", which are not
designed for penetration, are often made of this material.

Shape
Conventionally, many dildos are shaped like a human penis with varying degrees of detail. Not
all, however, are fashioned to reproduce the male anatomy meticulously, and dildos come in a
wide variety of shapes. These may resemble goddess figures, or simply be practical creations
which stimulate women more easily than conventional designs. In Japan, many dildos are created
to resemble animals or cartoon characters, like Hello Kitty, so that they may be sold as toys,
thus avoiding obscenity laws.

Uses
Vaginal and/or anal penetration are the obvious uses. Dildos have fetishistic value as well,
and some couples use them in other ways, running them over the skin during foreplay for
example. If of appropriate sizes, they can be used as gags, for oral penetration or a sort of
artificial fellatio, or for anal penetration. Some people also use specially designed dildos to
stimulate the G-spot.

Dildos are used by people of all genders and sexual orientations, alone or with others.

Safety and health
Some larger dildos are intended for visual appeal only and should not be used for penetration.

Dildos can transmit disease between users in the same way as other forms of sexual contact, and
should not be shared among users where this is a concern. This is particularly true for dildos
made of porous or micro-porous materials, such as most soft synthetics. On the other hand,
smooth stainless steel or Pyrex dildos are easier to clean, non-porous, and can be more easily
sanitized, either chemically or by boiling. Silicone dildos can also be sterilized via boiling
or washing with a diluted bleach solution (10 parts water: 1 part bleach), then rinsed well.
This is not meant to say that any unprotected dildo should be used by more than one person
without being sanitized. An effective remedy is to use a fresh condom on the dildo.

Silicone dildos and silicone-based lubricants are not compatible, so users should avoid
combining the two. Silicone lubricant dissolves the surface of silicone toys, turning it
sticky. Pre-lubricated condoms almost always contain silicone lubricant, so when covering a
silicone dildo with a condom, only a nonlubricated condom should be used. Non-silicone,
water-based lubricants work best for silicone toys.

Dildos without a flanged base or other mechanism to control the depth of insertion should not
be used anally, because they can be difficult to retrieve without medical assistance.

Variations

An 18-inch latex double dildo
A gold jewelled dildoA dildo to be inserted in the anus and remain in place for a period of
time is called a butt-plug. Dildos used for repeated anal penetration, such as thrusting, are
usually referred to as simply "dildos" and must have a flared base to be safe for anal play.
There are also double-ended dildos, with different-sized shafts pointing in the same direction,
used by women to accomplish both anal and vaginal penetration at once, or for two partners to
share a single dildo. In this case, the dildo acts as a sort of "see-saw"; each partner takes
an end and receives stimulation.

There are dildos designed to be worn in a harness, sometimes called a strap-on harness or
strap-on dildo, or to be worn inside, sometimes with vibrating devices attached externally.

Strap-on dildos may be double-ended, in which case they are meant to be worn by users who want
to experience vaginal or anal penetration while also penetrating a partner. They may also be
used for anal penetration of men. In the latter case the act is known as pegging.

Other types of dildos include those designed to be fitted to the face of one party, inflatable
dildos, and dildos with suction cups attached to the base (sometimes referred to as a wall
mount). Other types of harness mounts for dildos (besides strapping to the groin) include thigh
mount, face mount, or furniture mounting straps.

Recent social acceptance and popularity has resulted in the emergence of highly adorned dildos.
These are often made of expensive materials and can be jewelled.

History
Giant stone dildos have been recovered during archaeological digs. [citation needed] Dildos in
one form or another have likely been present in society throughout history. Artifacts from the
Upper Paleolithic which have previously been described as batons were most likely used for
sexual purposes (Marshack 1972: 333; Vasey 1998: 420). However, there appears to be hesitation
on the part of archaeologists to label these items as sex toys, as one archaeologist put it
"Looking at the size, shape, and - some cases - explicit symbolism of the ice age batons, it
seems disingenuous to avoid the most obvious and straightforward interpretation. But it has
been avoided." It is conceivable to argue, however, that Paleolithic woman found some measure
of comfort in the massive stone batons whilst the men were off hunting woolly mammoth.(Taylor
1996: 128) There have been many references to dildos in the ethnohistorical literature.

Etymology
The word "dildo" originally referred to the phallus-shaped peg used to lock an oar in position
on a dory (small boat). It would be inserted into a hole on the side of the boat, and is very
similar in shape (and function) to the modern toy. It is highly likely the toy takes its name
from this sailing tool. The town of Dildo in Newfoundland, Canada takes its name from the
sailing tool, as does the nearby Dildo Island. Others suggest the word is a bastardization of
Italian "diletto" (for "delight"). [1] The term first appeared in English language print when
Ben Jonson's 1610 play, The Alchemist, was published in 1616. William Shakespeare used the term
once in The Winter's Tale, also believed to be from 1610, but it was not printed until the
First Folio of 1623. The phrase "Dil Doul," referring to man's penis, appears in the 17th
century folk ballad "The Maids Complaint for want of a Dil Doul". [2]The song was among many in
the library of Samuel Pepys.

Olisbos is a classical term for a dildo, from the Greek ???????; a godemiche is a dildo in the
shape of a penis with scrotum.

In some modern languages, the names for "dildo" can be more descriptive, creative or subtle,
such as in Russian (?????????????, literally "Phallic imitator") or Spanish (Consolador,
literally "consolation/consolator").
Dildeaux - 26 Oct 2006 17:56 GMT
> "Dildeaux" <dildeaux@toys.com>
>>
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>
> What is a dildo?

Can't spell either, eh freak?
Death - 26 Oct 2006 08:03 GMT
"Dildeaux" <dildeaux@toys.com> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> No, you moron - "frottage" ... look it up, freak.

I enjoy when you faggots beat your shiteaters and haven't a clue.
Thank you my little faggot monkey.

Oslo Natural History Museum

"Not only short-lived sexual relationships, but even long-lasting partnerships; partnerships
that may last a lifetime."
GMCarter - 26 Oct 2006 10:43 GMT
snip
>Oslo Natural History Museum
>
>"Not only short-lived sexual relationships, but even long-lasting partnerships; partnerships
>that may last a lifetime."

This is the most delightful aspect of the article. It underscores that
same sex coupling is a commonplace in nature.

Again, the disease is bigotry.

        George M. Carter
Death - 26 Oct 2006 17:13 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> This is the most delightful aspect of the article. It underscores that
> same sex coupling is a commonplace in nature.

What the article failed to demonstrate was that
these animals butt-f.cking each other.

All that was revealed  was already known,
males enjoy the company of other males.

I believe the catch phrase is bonding, LOL

> Again, the disease is bigotry.

You just can't help it I suppose.
Dildeaux - 26 Oct 2006 17:58 GMT
> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What the article failed to demonstrate was that
> these animals butt-f.cking each other.

Oh but they do ... as God intended!

But for you, my dear Death, you better you hope those rats
in your trailer court are either female or exclusively hetero...
GMCarter - 26 Oct 2006 23:54 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>What the article failed to demonstrate was that
> these animals butt-f.cking each other.

LOL...I'm sure that's of KEEN interest to you.
Death - 27 Oct 2006 02:15 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> LOL...I'm sure that's of KEEN interest to you.

It must be demonstrated that animals butt-f.ck
if you are to claim faggotry is natural.

Two monkeys holding hands, .........indeed! LOL
GMCarter - 27 Oct 2006 10:48 GMT
snip
>It must be demonstrated that animals butt-f.ck
>if you are to claim faggotry is natural.

So a man and a woman engaged in anal sex are "faggots"?

Anal sex is fun for some, not for others.

The more you write, the sillier you become.

I hope you find healing for your disease--but most likely, you won't.

        George M. Carter
Death - 27 Oct 2006 17:47 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> So a man and a woman engaged in anal sex are "faggots"?
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> The more you write, the sillier you become.
Sipora - 31 Oct 2006 09:53 GMT
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm

What did you post that URL to this newsgroup for? What does homosexual
behavior among animals have to do with AIDS issues?
GMCarter - 31 Oct 2006 12:06 GMT
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
>
>What did you post that URL to this newsgroup for? What does homosexual
>behavior among animals have to do with AIDS issues?

To counter stigma and discrimination against humans who have sex with
the same gender.

Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
groups to HIV.

Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.

Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
normal?

        George M. Carter
brainfart - 31 Oct 2006 13:11 GMT
GMCarter wrote...
> Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.

My HIV+ brother lives in a city where homosexuality is not only NOT
stigmatized, and they are practically permitted to buttfuck in public.
This incredible tolerance has not led to any reduction in the number
of HIV cases; in fact, since the campaign to make homosexuality
trendy began in the mid-1980s, the city's homosexual HIV rate has
increased dramatically.

I happen to live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and seeing men kiss
and hold hands in public is common, the city pays to decorate the
gay part of town with little rainbow flags on everything,
transexuals whore themselves openly around Polk Street, and every
year the city hosts the largest gay pride parade in the world.  So
by your reasoning San Francisco should have the lowest rate of HIV
among gays, but it doesn't.
Death - 31 Oct 2006 18:15 GMT
"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message

> ...transexuals whore themselves openly around Polk Street, and every
> year the city hosts the largest gay pride parade in the world.  So
> by your reasoning San Francisco should have the lowest rate of HIV
> among gays, but it doesn't.

Exposure Category 1987 1992 1997 2002

MSM 80% 71% 59% 53%

Heterosexual 2% 4% 9% 11%

http://www.sfaf.org/aidsinfo/statistics/transmission.html

stigma doesn't seem to be infecting the hetero population
GMCarter - 31 Oct 2006 19:46 GMT
>"brainfart" <fart@brain.org> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>stigma doesn't seem to be infecting the hetero population

Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out, loud
and don't take sh.t from bigots any more.
brainfart - 31 Oct 2006 20:07 GMT
GMCarter wrote...
>>Exposure Category 1987 1992 1997 2002
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out, loud
> and don't take sh.t from bigots any more.

What Death could have pointed out is that the increase in the
heterosexual exposure rate is largely due to women who are
infected by their MSM partners.
GMCarter - 01 Nov 2006 12:09 GMT
>What Death could have pointed out is that the increase in the
>heterosexual exposure rate is largely due to women who are
>infected by their MSM partners.

That does happen in some cases. MSM who are married do represent a
portion of the population. But "largely due" is unsupported. What data
are you using to base that claim?

Indeed, this underscores the point that the stigma and discrimination
that result in cheating and hiding are what drive the epidemic.

        George M. Carter
Death - 01 Nov 2006 23:07 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >What Death could have pointed out is that the increase in the
> >heterosexual exposure rate is largely due to women who are
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Indeed, this underscores the point that the stigma and discrimination
> that result in cheating and hiding are what drive the epidemic.

faggots passing hiv/aids to a female has nothing to do with any stigma.
its f.cking other males (behavior) and then bringing its dis-ease to the
female (behavior) is what underscores: what drives this pandemic.
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 00:36 GMT
snip
>faggots passing hiv/aids to a female has nothing to do with any stigma.

Of course, dear.

Everyone sees what an anguished creature you are.
Death - 02 Nov 2006 00:50 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> snip

> >faggots passing hiv/aids to a female has nothing to do with any stigma.
>
> Of course, dear.

Well, I'm glad you agree.

> Everyone sees what an anguished creature you are.>

That is another one of your evasive strawmen.
Explain what stigma is past/present/future when a faggot
passes its filthy dis-ease to a women.

As you pointed out, it isn't lesbians passing the filth.
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 13:13 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>Well, I'm glad you agree.

Bigots usually have an impaired sense of irony.
Death - 02 Nov 2006 17:06 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >> snip
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Bigots usually have an impaired sense of irony.

I noticed that, but not to worry, I over-look it.
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 01:17 GMT
snip
>I noticed that, but not to worry, I over-look it.

You can do naught else, dear.
Death - 03 Nov 2006 01:51 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
> snip
> >I noticed that, but not to worry, I over-look it.
>
> You can do naught else, dear.

Calmer, good, I see the cock-tail kicked in.
You know I wanted to ask, do those whales
take meds to control their aids ? Do they use
con-dumbs ?
Death - 31 Oct 2006 20:13 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out,

Encouraging indeed, 77% of aids cases belong to the trendy.
Reported cases, 19,796 trendy folks infected, 345 for the untrendy.

>loud and don't take sh.t from bigots any more.

You take your sh.t from the end of a strangers dick.

http://www.sfaf.org/aidsinfo/statistics/transmission.html
GMCarter - 01 Nov 2006 12:13 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out,
>
>Encouraging indeed, 77% of aids cases belong to the trendy.
>Reported cases, 19,796 trendy folks infected, 345 for the untrendy.

"Trendy"? HIV infection is trendy to you. How bizarre.

The numbers you look at are in San Francisco. The corresponding
figures for the country as a whole are higher.

>>loud and don't take sh.t from bigots any more.
>
>You take your sh.t from the end of a strangers dick.

>http://www.sfaf.org/aidsinfo/statistics/transmission.html
Death - 01 Nov 2006 23:13 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out,
> >
> "Trendy"? HIV infection is trendy to you. How bizarre.

LOL, it must be the meds huh Carter?

I know you won't take responsibility for
your words without some excuse.

Place it here for my amusement.
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 00:36 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>LOL, it must be the meds huh Carter?

Well, probably. What meds are you on?
Death - 02 Nov 2006 01:01 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Well, probably.

Lay off those cock-tails, they are making you light-headed
and they are poison.

>What meds are you on?

Centrum silver and tums
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 13:06 GMT
>>What meds are you on?
>>
> Centrum silver and tums

See? You dropped the risperidone and now you're all frantic again.
Death - 02 Nov 2006 17:13 GMT
> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >>
> > Centrum silver and tums
>
> See? You dropped the risperidone and now you're all frantic again.

A valed, you are infected with a filthy faggot dis-ease?

LOL, not in this life-time nor the next.
I say that because there will be no cure in the future
that will alter (shitty) behavior.
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 01:15 GMT
,,,
>I say that because there will be no cure in the future
>that will alter (shitty) behavior.

True. You will die with the ugliness that so readily flows from your
lips. Pity.
Death - 03 Nov 2006 01:56 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> ,,,
> >I say that because there will be no cure in the future
> >that will alter (shitty) behavior.
>
> True. You will die with the ugliness that so readily flows from your
> lips. Pity.

Lets see, die with my ugliness or melt like an ice cube on the
side-walk in June, huummmmmmmmmm

I'll pass on the faggot behavior and die with my ugliness.
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT
snip.,..
>I'll pass on the faggot behavior and die with my ugliness.

You'd be better off allowing yourself to be a homosexual since you are
then a conflicted ugly hypocrite. Like that evangelist who was just
busted--yet another fool living a lie, breathing hate, full of sh.t,
now in disgrace.

Of course, if by some remote chance that you are NOT a homosexual,
then what difference would it possibly make? And still, you'd decide
to be inwardly full of ugliness and hate?

It's odd you would CHOOSE ugliness over happiness. But it's up to you!

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Nov 2006 17:49 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> It's odd you would CHOOSE ugliness over happiness. But it's up to you!

I see once again you had to rewrite what I said so you could sleep at night.
If what I just said is a lie, repost where I said I choose ugliness over happiness.

Good luck in your endeavor to actually prove some-thing you say is correct.
Up to this point you rate right up there with drdach in accuracy.
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 00:48 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> It's odd you would CHOOSE ugliness over happiness. But it's up to you!
>>
>I see once again you had to rewrite what I said so you could sleep at night.
>If what I just said is a lie, repost where I said I choose ugliness over happiness.

You are deeply conflicted...having written:
>I'll pass on the faggot behavior and die with my ugliness.

So you choose your ugliness.
Let the reader decide! (Other than you, of course.)
Death - 04 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> You are deeply conflicted...having written:

> >I'll pass on the faggot behavior and die with my ugliness.

This is what whas said.

" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>

Lets see, die with my ugliness or melt like an ice cube on the
side-walk in June, huummmmmmmmmm
I'll pass on the faggot behavior and die with my ugliness.

If you want to tell what I said, tell what I said.
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 13:35 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
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>
>If you want to tell what I said, tell what I said.

LOL...that's even worse.
Poor dear.
Death - 04 Nov 2006 16:05 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> LOL...that's even worse.

Now click your heels together 3 times and say

David Pasquarelli
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 20:08 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>David Pasquarelli

Non sequitur.
GMCarter - 01 Nov 2006 12:16 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Yes, encouraging trends in the gay community because we're out,
>
>Encouraging indeed, 77% of aids cases belong to the trendy.
>Reported cases, 19,796 trendy folks infected, 345 for the untrendy.

"Trendy"? HIV infection is trendy to you. How bizarre.

The numbers you look at are in San Francisco. The corresponding
figures for the country as a whole are higher.

>>loud and don't take sh.t from bigots any more.
>
>You take your sh.t from the end of a strangers dick.

LOL. You know nothing about me. But clearly it does give you a tiny
bit of a woody, deosn't it?

>http://www.sfaf.org/aidsinfo/statistics/transmission.html

Thanks for sharing the data. They underscore that the trend of new HIV
infections among MSM is declining while it is rising among
heterosexuals.

HIV infection is a disease. One I would not wish upon anyone and
believe that public policy should be driven by evidence-based
approaches to stem the spread of new infections.

For people like you that celebrate people suffering and dying of
AIDS...well, suffice it to say that you have a far worse disease. One
that has poisoned you. One that you will die with as a horrific choice
that perhaps only as you breathe your last you will recognize for the
vile and pathetic waste of your life that it is.

        George M. Carter
GMCarter - 31 Oct 2006 19:45 GMT
>GMCarter wrote...
>> Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.
>
>My HIV+ brother lives in a city where homosexuality is not only NOT
>stigmatized, and they are practically permitted to buttfuck in public.

Sounds like a marvelous place! The Emerald City?
Death - 31 Oct 2006 17:38 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> To counter stigma and discrimination against humans who have sex with
> the same gender.

Well that was a failure. The article did not show where any animals
butt-f.cked each other. If it had, where would that have led you?
Do you now seek acceptance to f.ck a goat and call it natural?

> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
> groups to HIV.

So you called on the monkeys to help in your quest for acceptance?

> Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.

Again bullshit, behavior does.
Absent the behavior that spreads hiv/aids the dis-ease would cease
to exist.

Stigma is not infected with hiv/aids.

> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
> normal?

LOL, it is neither. If it were, you wouldn't have to work so hard
attempting to convince others that it is.

What is natural and normal, is that animals eat their young, they don't drive
a car, they don't use a computer to further their agenda and they don't use
humans to justify their behavior.
GMCarter - 31 Oct 2006 19:47 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Well that was a failure. The article did not show where any animals
>butt-f.cked each other. If it had, where would that have led you?

Same sex couples sometimes engage in anal sex. Opposite sex couples
sometimes engage in anal sex. Sometimes they don't.

>Do you now seek acceptance to f.ck a goat and call it natural?

I'm not interested in goats or animals. Are you?

Stigma snipped.

        George M. Carter
Death - 31 Oct 2006 20:21 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Same sex couples sometimes engage in anal sex. Opposite sex couples
> sometimes engage in anal sex. Sometimes they don't.

I failed to find that in your article about faggot animals.

> >Do you now seek acceptance to f.ck a goat and call it natural?
>
> I'm not interested in goats or animals. Are you?

Not in the least, that is why I am not looking to animals for acceptable conduct.

> Stigma snipped.

Stigma is not infected therefore can
not promote the spread of hiv/aids.
GMCarter - 01 Nov 2006 12:17 GMT
snip
>> Same sex couples sometimes engage in anal sex. Opposite sex couples
>> sometimes engage in anal sex. Sometimes they don't.
>
>I failed to find that in your article about faggot animals.

LOL...anal sex really turns ya on, huh? You were SO disappointed not
to see some hot pictures of butt f.cking, eh?

Poor conflicted dear.
Death - 01 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> LOL...anal sex really turns ya on, huh? You were SO disappointed not
> to see some hot pictures of butt f.cking, eh?

Are you saying the article you used to prove :Naturally queer failed
to provide any evidence to prove :Naturally queer?

Am I disappointed, LOL, it's what I expected from you!
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 00:38 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Are you saying the article you used to prove :Naturally queer failed
>to provide any evidence to prove :Naturally queer?

To the utter contrary, Sherlock.

>Am I disappointed, LOL, it's what I expected from you!

Of course! And I expect of you a complete inability to comprehend!
Your soul is twisting on the spit of your hate and it causes a great
deal of confusion for you.
Death - 02 Nov 2006 01:03 GMT
" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>

> >Are you saying the article you used to prove :Naturally queer failed
> >to provide any evidence to prove :Naturally queer?
>
>GM Carter wrote
>
> To the utter contrary, Sherlock.

Utter, LOL can't get them animals off your perverted mind.
Sipora - 01 Nov 2006 03:42 GMT
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> To counter stigma and discrimination against humans who have sex with
> the same gender.

How?

> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
> groups to HIV.
>
> Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.

How?

> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
> normal?

The fact that animals do something does not necessarily make it "normal".

>         George M. Carter
GMCarter - 01 Nov 2006 12:21 GMT
>> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>How?

By countering the argument made by some fundamentalist religious
perverts that same sex coupling is "unnatural" as a part and parcel of
their bigoted assault upon our community.

>> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
>> groups to HIV.
>>
>> Stigma and discrimination fuel the HIV pandemic.
>
>How?

By making people feel shame about who they are. The sexual puritanism
of "abstinence only" is akin to "just say no." It doesn't work. And
then people act out on natural urges in secret.

>> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
>> normal?
>
>The fact that animals do something does not necessarily make it "normal".

It's normal for me. I am naturally attracted to a very tiny proportion
of the population of males. This is true for a significant proportion
of the population of humans.

It is natural and normal. Do you not agree? If not, why not?

What bothers you about same gender attraction?

        George M. Carter
Sipora - 01 Nov 2006 12:58 GMT
> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> perverts that same sex coupling is "unnatural" as a part and parcel of
> their bigoted assault upon our community.

That's rather offensive language. You may be using it without really
thinking about what you're saying, which is a terrible idea. Calling
people you dislike "perverts" for no good reason suggests that you are  
too eager to use that word. I won't speculate about the reasons why.

> >> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
> >> groups to HIV.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of "abstinence only" is akin to "just say no." It doesn't work. And
> then people act out on natural urges in secret.

You are suggesting that unsafe and promiscuous behaviour among
homosexual men is caused by their shame about being homosexual? Did it
occur to you that many of them behave that way just because they like it?

> >> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
> >> normal?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>          George M. Carter

I've no idea how you could know that you are "naturally" attracted to
the same sex. If you are claiming to be attracted only to other gay men,
I must say I find that highly implausible - in most cases, you probably
wouldn't know when you first look at him whether a man is gay or not.
Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
reproduction, the main evolutionary function of human sexual behaviour.
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 00:42 GMT
>> >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm
>> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>people you dislike "perverts" for no good reason suggests that you are  
>too eager to use that word. I won't speculate about the reasons why.

LOL...uncomfortable with the term, eh? No surprise.

I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
torturing or killing are perverts.

>> >> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
>> >> groups to HIV.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>homosexual men is caused by their shame about being homosexual? Did it
>occur to you that many of them behave that way just because they like it?

Well, YES! That's the better adjusted ones. Just like most humans who
enjoy a good shag.

>> >> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
>> >> normal?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>I've no idea how you could know that you are "naturally" attracted to
>the same sex.

The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
perhaps you are axexual?

>If you are claiming to be attracted only to other gay men,

Did I say that?

>I must say I find that highly implausible - in most cases, you probably
>wouldn't know when you first look at him whether a man is gay or not.

Do you think a heterosexual man always knows if the woman he finds
attractive is a lesbian?

You're dithering.

>Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
>reproduction, the main evolutionary function of human sexual behaviour.

LOL...many men and women f.ck without producing progeny or having any
desire to do so. Silly. Try again, pervert.

        George M. Carter
Sipora - 02 Nov 2006 04:09 GMT
[snip]

> >That's rather offensive language. You may be using it without really
> >thinking about what you're saying, which is a terrible idea. Calling
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
> torturing or killing are perverts.

The way that you are using it, that word is a meaningless term of abuse.

> >> >> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
> >> >> groups to HIV.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Well, YES! That's the better adjusted ones. Just like most humans who
> enjoy a good shag.

I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly how you think stigma and
discrimination encourage the spread of HIV. You aren't being clear.

> >> >> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
> >> >> normal?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
> perhaps you are axexual?

I didn't say that I thought I was naturally attracted to anyone or
anything, whatever that means. I only asked how you knew that you were?

> >If you are claiming to be attracted only to other gay men,
>
> Did I say that?

You appeared to be implying that. Presumably the very tiny proportion of
males you were thinking of are homosexuals?

> >I must say I find that highly implausible - in most cases, you probably
> >wouldn't know when you first look at him whether a man is gay or not.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>         George M. Carter

Do you usually respond to rational arguments with this sort of mindless
abuse?
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 13:09 GMT
>[snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>The way that you are using it, that word is a meaningless term of abuse.

I see. So you prefer your terms of abuse to be meaningful? What is not
meaningful about someone who uses religion to justify oppression or
murder?

snip
>I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly how you think stigma and
>discrimination encourage the spread of HIV. You aren't being clear.

You'll probably never get it then.

snip
>> The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
>> perhaps you are axexual?
>
>I didn't say that I thought I was naturally attracted to anyone or
>anything, whatever that means. I only asked how you knew that you were?

You're not attracted to anyone or anything? My god, you're a bit dull,
aren't you?

>> >If you are claiming to be attracted only to other gay men,
>>
>> Did I say that?
>
>You appeared to be implying that. Presumably the very tiny proportion of
>males you were thinking of are homosexuals?

LOL. No.

>> >I must say I find that highly implausible - in most cases, you probably
>> >wouldn't know when you first look at him whether a man is gay or not.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Do you usually respond to rational arguments with this sort of mindless
>abuse?

Certainly not! However, if by that you are implying you're making a
rational argument, that is laughable.

        George M. Carter
Death - 02 Nov 2006 17:35 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> I see. So you prefer your terms of abuse to be meaningful? What is not
> meaningful about someone who uses religion to justify oppression or
> murder?

Infecting your butt-buddy is murder, but if some-one tells you
not to murder your butt-buddy, you feel oppressed. Strange.
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 01:20 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Infecting your butt-buddy is murder, but if some-one tells you
>not to murder your butt-buddy, you feel oppressed. Strange.

Intentionally infecting someone with anything is criminal in my view.
Whether in the court's view, probably depends on the jurisdiction and
the nature of the infection.

The issue is how to prevent unintended infections. And there are a lot
of ways to address those issues.

But you're not interested in that--just in wallowing in the sh.t of
your hate!

Must be miserable to be you.

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Nov 2006 02:02 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
> >Infecting your butt-buddy is murder, but if some-one tells you
> >not to murder your butt-buddy, you feel oppressed. Strange.
>
> The issue is how to prevent unintended infections.

Bullshit

> GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
>> torturing or killing are perverts.

Infecting your butt-buddy is murder, but if someone tells you
not to murder your butt-buddy, you feel oppressed. StrangE
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Bullshit

LOL. That does summarize your view on it, doesn't it?

So you think we should augment unintended infections?
Death - 03 Nov 2006 17:54 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> So you think we should augment unintended infections?

I think you should die from your unintended infections
but than has nothing to do with naturally queer does it?

I see you are hell=bend in your quest to flee that article.
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 00:49 GMT
snip
>I see you are hell=bend in your quest to flee that article.

Not in the slightest. The article and the zoo in question clearly
underscore the points I've been making.
Death - 04 Nov 2006 01:21 GMT
> snip
> >I see you are hell=bend in your quest to flee that article.
>
> Not in the slightest. The article and the zoo in question clearly
> underscore the points I've been making.

Your point ? That whales swim together there-fore a stranger
f.cking you in the a.s is natural, LOL, good point.
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
>> snip
>> >I see you are hell=bend in your quest to flee that article.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Your point ? That whales swim together there-fore a stranger
>f.cking you in the a.s is natural, LOL, good point.

That's not my point--that's your twisted, Rovian perversion!

Precisely what a bigot would do as well.
Sipora - 02 Nov 2006 21:57 GMT
> >[snip]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> I see. So you prefer your terms of abuse to be meaningful?

Yes, I do prefer terms of abuse to be meaningful. If someone is going to
abuse someone else, it's best that their abuse be based on fact.

>What is not
> meaningful about someone who uses religion to justify oppression or
> murder?

Sorry, but I don't quite get your point here.

> snip
> >I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly how you think stigma and
> >discrimination encourage the spread of HIV. You aren't being clear.
>
> You'll probably never get it then.

You aren't providing any proper explanation.

> snip
> >> The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You're not attracted to anyone or anything? My god, you're a bit dull,
> aren't you?

Did it occur to you that you might be attracted to the same sex for
unnatural reasons?

[snip]

> >> >I must say I find that highly implausible - in most cases, you probably
> >> >wouldn't know when you first look at him whether a man is gay or not.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>          George M. Carter

My argument is perfectly rational and you have not answered it.
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 01:21 GMT
>> >[snip]
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Sorry, but I don't quite get your point here.

Of course you don't.

>> snip
>> >I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly how you think stigma and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You aren't providing any proper explanation.

You're too stupid to understand it.

>> snip
>> >> The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Did it occur to you that you might be attracted to the same sex for
>unnatural reasons?

Nope. Perhaps you'd care to delineate what those supposed "unnatural
reasons" might be, in your small little mind?

>[snip]

>My argument is perfectly rational and you have not answered it.

You haven't MADE an argument.

        George M. Carter
Sipora - 03 Nov 2006 07:59 GMT
> >> >[snip]
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Of course you don't.

Would you mind explaining your point more clearly?

> >> snip
> >> >I'm afraid I still don't understand exactly how you think stigma and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You're too stupid to understand it.

Explanations cannot be understood if they are not offered.
 
> >> snip
> >> >> The same way you know you are "naturally" attracted to some humans. Or
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Nope. Perhaps you'd care to delineate what those supposed "unnatural
> reasons" might be, in your small little mind?

I really shouldn't speculate. I'm only surprised it never occured to you
that your sexual orientation might be anything other than "natural."

> >[snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>         George M. Carter

"Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
reproduction, the main evolutionary function of human sexual behaviour."

That was more of an argument than anything you offered. Do you have any
reason for disagreeing with my statment, other than the fact that you
don't like it?
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 12:18 GMT
>> >> >> I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
>> >> >> torturing or killing are perverts.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Would you mind explaining your point more clearly?

What is unclear about the statement above?

Funny. Another lying hypocrite has been revealed in all his bullshit.

snip
>"Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
>reproduction, the main evolutionary function of human sexual behaviour."

MANY opposite-sex couples do not have children. Are they, in your use
of the term then "unnatural" or "not normal"?

>That was more of an argument than anything you offered. Do you have any
>reason for disagreeing with my statment, other than the fact that you
>don't like it?

I did reply to it. As above. Producing progeny is natural. Coupling is
natural. Same and opposite sex attraction is natural and normal.

Besides, there's too many humans on the planet. We need to find humane
ways to REDUCE population.

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Nov 2006 18:14 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Besides, there's too many humans on the planet. We need to find humane
> ways to REDUCE population.

Pssst, hey Carter, ever hear of HIV/AIDS?
After 25 years it is still working as intended.
It targets the un-wanted/un-necessary/un-needed.
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 00:50 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>After 25 years it is still working as intended.
>It targets the un-wanted/un-necessary/un-needed.

And there you have it. You wallow in hatred! You will die too, dear.

Disease as a means of population reduction is sloppy and inadequate,
not to mention inhumane.

But then you've already reflected the ugliest side of our human being.

I hope you find healing.
Death - 04 Nov 2006 01:25 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> And there you have it. You wallow in hatred!

Hatred is natural and normal, what's your point?
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 13:38 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>Hatred is natural and normal, what's your point?

Indeed. Overdoing it and expressing it inappropriately is a dangerous
pathology.

Love is natural and normal, too. I prefer love to hate.

Sexual desire is natural and normal. I prefer sexual desire to hate.

You prefer hate. Pretty bizarre, frankly.

        George M. Carter
Sipora - 04 Nov 2006 02:35 GMT
> >> >> >> I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
> >> >> >> torturing or killing are perverts.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Funny. Another lying hypocrite has been revealed in all his bullshit.

The statement by you, to which I was referring, was "What is not
meaningful about someone who uses religion to justify oppression or
murder?" I'm still not sure what you're trying to say there.

> snip
> >"Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
> >reproduction, the main evolutionary function of human sexual behaviour."
>
> MANY opposite-sex couples do not have children. Are they, in your use
> of the term then "unnatural" or "not normal"?

What does that have to do with whether homosexual attractions are normal
or not? It's a different question.

> >That was more of an argument than anything you offered. Do you have any
> >reason for disagreeing with my statment, other than the fact that you
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>         George M. Carter
GMCarter - 04 Nov 2006 13:44 GMT
>> >> >> >> I think people use their religion to justify hating, persecuting,
>> >> >> >> torturing or killing are perverts.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>meaningful about someone who uses religion to justify oppression or
>murder?" I'm still not sure what you're trying to say there.

Precisely the same thing as the first statement above. You'd claimed
that calling people that use religion to press agendas of hate is not
meaningful. The statement above quite clearly reflects that it is
quite meaningful to call people that pick the bits of religion that
suit their bigotry to be perverts.

Like your Haggard, who turns out to be the deepest kind of hypocrite
to boot.

>> snip
>> >"Homosexual attractions are not normal because they do not encourage
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>What does that have to do with whether homosexual attractions are normal
>or not? It's a different question.

Now you're backtracking? Your definition of "normal" appeared to be
that only producing progeny in a relationship falls into your
narrow-minded little definition.

>> >That was more of an argument than anything you offered. Do you have any
>> >reason for disagreeing with my statment, other than the fact that you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> Besides, there's too many humans on the planet. We need to find humane
>> ways to REDUCE population.

        George M. Carter
Sipora - 05 Nov 2006 01:08 GMT
[snip]

> Precisely the same thing as the first statement above. You'd claimed
> that calling people that use religion to press agendas of hate is not
> meaningful. The statement above quite clearly reflects that it is
> quite meaningful to call people that pick the bits of religion that
> suit their bigotry to be perverts.

This isn't what most people mean by perversion.

> Like your Haggard, who turns out to be the deepest kind of hypocrite
> to boot.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> that only producing progeny in a relationship falls into your
> narrow-minded little definition.

If the opposite-sex couples who do not have children are not having
children because they are using contraception, then yes, this is
frustrating nature, and therefore unnatural. This definitely does not
show that homosexual attractions are anything other than unnatural.

[snip]
GMCarter - 05 Nov 2006 12:20 GMT
>[snip]
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>This isn't what most people mean by perversion.

Really? You must know some peculiar people!

snip
>If the opposite-sex couples who do not have children are not having
>children because they are using contraception, then yes, this is
>frustrating nature, and therefore unnatural. This definitely does not
>show that homosexual attractions are anything other than unnatural.

I find your definition of "normal" then to be even more peculiar.
Indeed, I'd say it's pretty perverse on a planet that already has far
too many humans that it can reasonably support.

But families have always been more than just mommy and daddy and 2.5
children. That's unnatural! Families are siblings, cousins,
grandparents. Families are struggle. They are backbiting and jockeying
for power. They are love and caring.

They are our human condition. Which naturally includes same sex loving
individuals.

It is natural to love and to hate. Up to you the land in which you
prefer to dwell.

        George M. Carter
Death - 02 Nov 2006 17:24 GMT
"Sipora" <sipora@at.com> wrote in message

> Do you usually respond to rational arguments with this sort of mindless
> abuse?

LOL, only when all else fails.

He has attempted to justify behavior by calling it stigma.

When that didn't fly, he wanted to demonstrate that animals
do disgusting things and there-fore he should be allowed
to copy that behavior.

That didn't turn out exactly as hoped so he attacked
people who do not agree with his view.

I'm waited for his threat to hold his breath until he turns blue.
Death - 01 Nov 2006 23:36 GMT
> >> >What did you post that URL to this newsgroup for? What does homosexual
> >> >behavior among animals have to do with AIDS issues?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> perverts that same sex coupling is "unnatural" as a part and parcel of
> their bigoted assault upon our community.

Well you And the article failed to prove that.
Only now is the bullshit about fundamental religion being mentioned.
Once again you are a week late and T-cells short.

> >> Males who have sex with males are one of the particularly vulnerable
> >> groups to HIV.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> of "abstinence only" is akin to "just say no." It doesn't work. And
> then people act out on natural urges in secret.

If you or any-other faggot feels shame, let it be for the millions who
you have murdered through your behavior.

> >> Does it bother you that same gender sexual activity is natural and
> >> normal?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of the population of males. This is true for a significant proportion
> of the population of humans.

What's normal for you has nothing to do with monkeys holding hands.
Once again you evade the subject and inject some off the wall faggot bullshit.
Being attracted to same sex is neither natural or normal, it is perverted.
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 00:43 GMT
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>Well you And the article failed to prove that.

Of course it proved it! You're just too much of an addlepated monkey
puppet to get it. You think homosexuality means anal sex, which is
just an absurd definition. Anal sex is great fun!

But many people don't engage in it.

The rest of your regurgitations are just more examples of your
symptomatic psychosis and suffering.

        George M. Carter
Death - 02 Nov 2006 01:35 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:36:00 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> puppet to get it. You think homosexuality means anal sex, which is
> just an absurd definition. Anal sex is great fun!

And your article failed to demonstrate that animals have anal sex
as I have said several times.
Whales swiming together, wow, the faggots, LOL.

> But many people don't engage in it.

Men have no natural desire to stick their dick in sh.t
or to elevate the a.shole to the status of a pussy.

Some males do have anal sex, turds are inseminated and faggots are born.
Now you know why the gay-gene hasn't been found, who wants to dig through sh.t
looking for it?
GMCarter - 02 Nov 2006 13:10 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
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>And your article failed to demonstrate that animals have anal sex
>as I have said several times.

It neither says they do or they don't. But you sure are hung up on
this, ain't ya?

Did you study with Goebbels?

Have you got the same cheap lines for muslims or jews or blacks?

        George M. Carter
Death - 02 Nov 2006 17:47 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> It neither says they do or they don't. But you sure are hung up on
> this, ain't ya?

I'm just giving you time and space to make your point that faggots
are naturally queer.
If the whales that swam together had butt-f.cked your faggot buddy
would have written that in bold letters complete with jpgs.

It appears his years of observation has only come up with
monkeys holding hands and piguins trying to hatching a rock.

> Have you got the same cheap lines for muslims or jews or blacks?

Does that have any-thing to do with your failed Naturally queer article?
I'm sorry, was I not suppose to notice you crawling away from it?
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 01:16 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
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>I'm just giving you time and space to make your point that faggots
>are naturally queer.

LOL....sure thing dude.
Death - 03 Nov 2006 02:16 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> LOL....sure thing dude.

Ohhhhhh, you ain't giving up your fight to prove Naturally queer are ya?
Come on, do for the author what he could not do for his-self.

Maybe if you say  :

David Pasquarelli .......10 times real fast he will help you
GMCarter - 03 Nov 2006 12:20 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
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>>
>Ohhhhhh, you ain't giving up your fight to prove Naturally queer are ya?

I am not fighting to prove anything, dear. I don't need to. The
evidence is there for those who wish to see. You've made it clear that
you are blinded by your bigotry.

>Come on, do for the author what he could not do for his-self.

What? Wow, now you're flailing incoherently.

>Maybe if you say  :
>
> David Pasquarelli .......10 times real fast he will help you

No. Nor will it help him. He died for his denialist beliefs. This can
happen to any infected individual who denies HIV causes AIDS,
regardless of sexual orientation.

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Nov 2006 18:29 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >> >>
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> evidence is there for those who wish to see. You've made it clear that
> you are blinded by your bigotry.

Nice catch-phrases, stigma causes hiv/aids : bigotry causes blindness :
hiv causes aids.

It's just that, phrases, void of fact, but phrases never -the- less.
Kind of like, the cat jumped over the moon...
GMCarter - 05 Nov 2006 20:08 GMT
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>It's just that, phrases, void of fact, but phrases never -the- less.
>Kind of like, the cat jumped over the moon...

Good lord what are you dithering about now?
Death - 05 Nov 2006 22:41 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> snip
> >It's just that, phrases, void of fact, but phrases never -the- less.
> >Kind of like, the cat jumped over the moon...
>
> Good lord what are you dithering about now?

I love it when this is all you have to offer as an argument
to naturally queer. You do demonstrate naturally ignorant tho.
GMCarter - 06 Nov 2006 11:36 GMT
>I love it when this is all you have to