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Death - 23 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT Conservative Group Examines 'Real Issue' in Foley Case By Susan Jones CNSNews.com Senior Editor October 03, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - "When a 16-year-old boy is not safe from sexual solicitation from an elected representative of the people, we should question the moral direction of our nation," a conservative advocacy group said on Monday.
The group also said Foley's behavior raises the "real issue" of homosexuality and child abuse.
Family Research Council President Tony Perkins noted that so many people -- Republicans and Democrats -- are "shocked" by former Rep. Mark Foley's sexually explicit instant messages to a teenage boy -- a House page at the time.
But we shouldn't be shocked, Perkins said: "This is the end result of a society that rejects sexual restraints in the name of diversity. If our children aren't safe in the halls of Congress, where are they safe? Maybe it's time to question: when is tolerance just an excuse for permissiveness?"
Perkins said both political parties need to be more serious about protecting children from sexual predators. "We need public policy in our country that protects marriage, respects parental authority and aggressively polices boundaries around our children," he said.
Perkins also questioned what he calls the "real issue" in the Foley case - the link between homosexuality and child abuse.
Perkins noted that Foley - an unmarried 52-year-old representative - has always refused to answer questions about his sexual orientation, but the release of Foley's messages to teenage male pages now makes it clear that "Foley is a homosexual with a particular attraction to underage boys."
"While pro-homosexual activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two," Perkins said.
"Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3 percent of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse cases involve men molesting boys -- and in one study, 86% of such men identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual," Perkins said.
"Ignoring this reality got the Catholic Church into trouble over abusive priests, and now it is doing the same to the House GOP leadership. They discounted or downplayed earlier reports concerning Foley's behavior -- probably because they did not want to appear 'homophobic.'
"The Foley scandal shows what happens when political correctness is put ahead of protecting children," Perkins said.
Homosexual advocacy groups have not had much to say about Foley's conduct. The Miami Herald quoted Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, as saying, "It's irrelevant if he (Foley) is gay or not."
The newspaper said the Human Rights Campaign refused to discuss Foley's resignation.
Neither group addresses the Foley case on their websites.
On Wednesday, Oct. 4, however, Chuck Wolfe, president and CEO of The Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, said Mark Foley's sexual orientation has no bearing on the scandal now unfolding in Washington.
"Attempts by some on the extreme right to link the two constitute a transparent effort to scapegoat gays and lesbians. The media and its political analysts should be careful not to defame hundreds of dedicated public servants and their families based on the improper behavior of one individual," Wolfe said.
GMCarter - 23 Oct 2006 23:56 GMT snip
>Family Research Council President blah blah blah. The new KKK. Can't kill the Jews? Can't lynch the blacks? f.ck with the faggots! Gotta have a scapegoat! Or they just wouldn't feel Right.
Snap snap go the little goose steps.
I wonder if these folks think they're going to "heaven"? Do they get virgins too or something?
George M. Carter
Death - 24 Oct 2006 00:39 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> blah blah blah. The new KKK. Can't kill the Jews? Can't lynch the > blacks? f.ck with the faggots! Gotta have a scapegoat! Or they just [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I wonder if these folks think they're going to "heaven"? Do they get > virgins too or something? all of a sudden not a word about Foley, Bush or Rice..... amazing
Now....it doesn't matter says faggots
GMCarter - 24 Oct 2006 11:40 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> I wonder if these folks think they're going to "heaven"? Do they get >> virgins too or something? The sock puppet burbled painfully:
>all of a sudden not a word about Foley, Bush or Rice..... amazing Foley? As a hypocritical low life liar who goes after children--are you saying that Bush and Rice are faggots? Or f.cking each other? What?
Is this another one of your examples of making a "case"?
Death - 24 Oct 2006 14:40 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Foley? As a hypocritical low life liar who goes after children-- What children did he go after? As far as being a low life, he is after-all a faggot.
GMCarter - 24 Oct 2006 20:44 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> >> Foley? As a hypocritical low life liar who goes after children-- > >What children did he go after? His young pages who by law are considered children, i.e., below the age of consent.
>As far as being a low life, he is after-all a faggot. LOL...bigot you are!
Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher numbers of "heterosexual" pedophiles.
George M. Carter
Death - 24 Oct 2006 21:55 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > His young pages who by law are considered children, i.e., below the > age of consent. I'm not sure if you are lying out of ignorance or stupity. The age of consent in DC is 16.
So again I ask, what children did he go after?
> >As far as being a low life, he is after-all a faggot. > > LOL...bigot you are! > I accepted my lot long before that faggot Foley did, what's your point.
> Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher > numbers of "heterosexual" pedophiles. In sheer numbers there is more everything about the hetero population. Percentage wise the faggots take the golden turd award.
GMCarter - 24 Oct 2006 22:30 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >I'm not sure if you are lying out of ignorance or stupity. LOL...if I'm saying something untrue based on belief that is erroneous, it isn't a lie. God you're f.cking stupid.
>The age of consent in DC is 16. Really? I would be quite surprised if that were true. I think it would have to be 18. But by all means, enlighten me.
>I accepted my lot long before that faggot Foley did, what's your point. Ah...here's the point.
>> Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher >> numbers of "heterosexual" pedophiles. >> >In sheer numbers there is more everything about the hetero population. >Percentage wise the faggots take the golden turd award. LOL. So you make another unsupported claim!
I suppose, like GW Bush, we're just supposed to believe whatever crap you spew?
Not bloody likely! But by all means, share the data.
George M. Carter
Brian Mailman - 24 Oct 2006 23:19 GMT >>The age of consent in DC is 16. > > Really? I would be quite surprised if that were true. It is, apparently, from what I've seen in reports on CNN (and I'm sure they've got accurate fact-checkers).
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
B/
GMCarter - 25 Oct 2006 12:33 GMT >>>The age of consent in DC is 16. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. LOL. Well, isn't that just too rich. Is DC the only place where 16 is the age of consent??
I think it should be about 16, so bravo!
Indeed, Foley is not the problem near so much as the murdering of habeas corpus.
George M. Carter
Death - 25 Oct 2006 15:16 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Indeed, Foley is not the problem near so much as the murdering of > habeas corpus. No sh.t Carter, welcome to my world. I see you find the deed/action/behavior more appalling than the telling of it, LOL
GMCarter - 26 Oct 2006 10:18 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I see you find the deed/action/behavior >more appalling than the telling of it, LOL I find the hypocrisy of being a closet case appalling.
I find shredding the Constitution even more horrible.
Death - 24 Oct 2006 23:20 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > > >The age of consent in DC is 16. > > Really? I would be quite surprised if that were true. I think it would > have to be 18. But by all means, enlighten me. Read the article(s) before running your sh.t-eater.
Brian Mailman - 24 Oct 2006 23:18 GMT >>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher > numbers of "heterosexual" pedophiles. Actually, the term in this case is hebephilia. He's going after the post-pubescent.
B/
GMCarter - 25 Oct 2006 12:24 GMT >snip >> Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher >> numbers of "heterosexual" pedophiles. > >Actually, the term in this case is hebephilia. He's going after the >post-pubescent. Thanks. One learns every day! Is that also a legal term?
Death - 25 Oct 2006 16:05 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >snip > >> Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks. One learns every day! Is that also a legal term? Once again, the page was 16, the legal age of consent in DC. That being the case, he was neither a pedophile or hebephile. He was only a faggot which is disgusting enough on its own merit.
GMCarter - 26 Oct 2006 10:17 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Once again, the page was 16, the legal age of consent in DC. >That being the case, he was neither a pedophile or hebephile. Well, if true--and I suppose to be decided by the courts--you may be correct.
>He was only a faggot which is disgusting enough on its own merit. Wow. You were really badly injured at some point, weren't you?
Poor dear.
But the bigger problem Foley had was being a hypocrite hiding in the closet. And that stink will prevail, regardless of the realities.
So more of us come out, despite people like you who suffer from the perversion and sickness of hate.
George M. Carter
Brian Mailman - 26 Oct 2006 21:13 GMT > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:41 -0500, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>>Once again, the page was 16, the legal age of consent in DC. >>That being the case, he was neither a pedophile or hebephile. > > Well, if true--and I suppose to be decided by the courts--you may be > correct. Not at all.
One is a medical diagnosis, the other a legal definition. Apples and oranges.
Perfectly possible in this case to be a hebephile AND be legally off the hook.
B/
GMCarter - 26 Oct 2006 23:52 GMT >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:41 -0500, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Perfectly possible in this case to be a hebephile AND be legally off the >hook. That's the question! I'm presuming that Foley's activities were ostensibly legal in the DC jurisdiction...but it may also be that he was undertaking these efforts in Florida as well.
George M. Carter
Brian Mailman - 27 Oct 2006 21:36 GMT >>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:41 -0500, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>Perfectly possible in this case to be a hebephile ^diagnosed as
>>AND be legally off the hook. > > That's the question! I'm presuming that Foley's activities were > ostensibly legal in the DC jurisdiction...but it may also be that he > was undertaking these efforts in Florida as well. Where it would be illegal, yes.
One of the excerpts of the IMs that was broadcast here on the local news (that wasn't on any national/cable network) was something like this:
******************************** youngster: You know I'm not 18, right? That would get you in trouble. I'm not 18, we'll have to wait.
maf54: yeah, I know that. But go ahead and measure it for me, OK? ************************************
Which apparently was not illegal because it wasn't an affirmative act towards actual physical contact. And it would seem to demonstrate that Foley was having untoward conversations with these kids, but knew enough how to skirt the law.
According to reports, even with those who were of legal age, he had no actual and physical sexual contact.
B/
Brian Mailman - 27 Oct 2006 22:13 GMT >>>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:05:41 -0500, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > According to reports, even with those who were of legal age, he had no > actual and physical sexual contact. And in the meantime... Help Hastert Hide the Perv: http://helphastert.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
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Brian Mailman - 25 Oct 2006 19:31 GMT >>snip >>> Pedophilia is different from sexual orientation. There's higher [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks. One learns every day! Is that also a legal term? Dunno, about whether the law distinguishes that or not; underage is underage.
B/
Death - 24 Oct 2006 15:55 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> blah blah blah. The new KKK. Can't kill the Jews? Can't lynch the > blacks? f.ck with the faggots! Forum seeks to combat AIDS By Tarron Lively THE WASHINGTON TIMES October 15, 2006
District residents, government and civic leaders met yesterday morning to discuss how to combat the city's AIDS rate, the fastest-rising in the country. The forum, in which Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton and a panel of HIV-treatment and -education specialists met with a few dozen residents, was the eighth installment of the 14-part Citizens Forum Series, sponsored by The Washington Times. "This epidemic calls for radical change and engagement of new leadership in the entire community," Mrs. Norton, a Democrat and the District's nonvoting congressional representative, said at the forum, held in the Arbor Ballroom of The Times building in Northeast. "This is no time for us to all look at what we've done," she said. "It's to look in some larger way at our community and what it takes to engage our communities." The District has the highest rate of new AIDS cases in the country, at 179.2 per 100,000 residents, city officials have said. Almost 10,000 people in the city have the disease, with blacks disproportionately affected. The city did not have enough data to say precisely how many people have HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. Dr. Gregg A. Pane, the city's health director, estimates that more than 250,000 residents are unaware they have the disease. AIDS is the leading cause of death for black women between 25 and 34, he said. As many as 25,000 people in the District may have HIV, more than 4 percent of all residents, according to the city's first public estimate. The figures were released in June as the city began a massive HIV-testing campaign with officials hoping to reach 400,000 people. The HIV figures are based on annual estimates of new HIV infections nationally made by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). "This is D.C.'s No. 1 public health problem," Dr. Pane said. According to the CDC, the District's AIDS case rate was 171 per 100,000 persons in 2003, the highest in the country. By comparison, the second-highest was New York, with 35 persons per 100,000 persons.
Mrs. Norton, who last month led 15 members of the Congressional Black Caucus in getting tested publicly for HIV in a mobile health care van, lauded the D.C. government's call for routine testing. And she expressed frustration with Congress for refusing to spend federal dollars on needle-exchange programs, which have helped lower the rate of HIV in other large U.S. cities. Mayor Anthony A. Williams organized a task force on HIV and AIDS, which met for the first time on the eve of the campaign. "One of the most important responses to the crisis is the dialogue," said Walter Smith, executive director at D.C. Appleseed Center for Law and Justice, who moderated the forum. "All of us are the foot soldiers in this battle." Marsha Martin, senior deputy director of the D.C. Administration for HIV Policy and Programs, encouraged residents 14 to 84 to get tested for HIV. "If you're going to be sexually active, do it with wisdom," she said. "Prevention of HIV transmission is key and critical. If you don't have it, don't get it. If you do have it, find out your status so we can keep you healthy so you don't progress to an AIDS diagnosis." Barbara Chinn, director of the Max Robinson Center at the Whitman-Walker Clinic in the District, said stigmas attached to the disease have kept black communities from thoroughly discussing the issue. "One of the most serious issues [blacks] face is our unwillingness to speak about it openly and honestly," she said. "Through that lack of conversation, we are actually helping HIV incubate within our community."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/metro/20061014-112712-1824r.htm
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