Death wrote...
> So imagine now... with HIV maybe being at 40% or MORE... what that holds for this country. Dr
> Du Plessis's study basically said that HIV alone will be the biggest single factor changing S.
> African society. He felt that not even Government would be able to match the power of change
> which HIV alone could force on this country - hence he referred to it as "Beyond Democracy". In
> essence, he said, it does not matter what people want to do in this country - AIDS is going to
> force this country along a path that nobody can control or stop...
Several years ago I predicted that the inevitable result will be a revolt
where those with HIV are rounded up and probably killed, or maybe put in
quarantine colonies if they're lucky. Within another generation people
in these countries will realize that they will go extinct unless they can
segregate the minority of uninfected from the majority of infected. I do
not see them having enough money to quarantine them for life, so you can
guess what will happen. They might be exiled, but no country is going to
accept them, so if the remaining uninfected wish to remain uninfected then
they will have to kill the virus carriers. I am not encouraging this
outcome, but this is what WILL happen. I can't imagine even Africans being
stupid enough to risk extinction just because they want to avoid any
politically-incorrect stigmatization of their HIV+ countrymen.
Death - 11 Oct 2006 17:22 GMT
"Lolakana223" <jordan@boytoy.com> wrote in message
> I can't imagine even Africans being
> stupid enough to risk extinction just because they want to avoid any
> politically-incorrect stigmatization of their HIV+ countrymen.
Melbourne HEALTH NEWS Thursday Oct 12 02:10 AEST
STDs on the rise in Australia: report
Thursday Oct 12 00:23 AEST
Chlamydia rates have soared fourfold in the past decade and other sexually-transmitted diseases
are climbing at an alarming pace, a new national report has revealed.
A paper released by the National Centre in HIV Epidemiology and Clinical Research (NCHECR)
shows the number of new HIV diagnoses increased 41 per cent between 2000 and 2005.
The rate of diagnosis of gonorrhoea doubled over the past 10 years. And syphilis rates doubled
in NSW and Victoria between 2001 and 2005.
But chlamydia was the most frequently reported notifiable condition in 2005 with 41,311 cases -
a fourfold increase since 1995.
And substantially higher rates of all three diseases were recorded among Australia's indigenous
population.
The report, launched at the Australasian Society for HIV Medicines Conference in Melbourne, is
the first to map the long range trends in the country's sexual health.
Professor John Kaldor, deputy director of NCHECR at the University of NSW, said some increases
could be due to more people coming forward for diagnosis.
"But it's very possible that people are just not prioritising safe sex as they maybe used to in
the very serious HIV/AIDs era," Prof Kaldor said.
"It could be that safe sex has become less recognised as a social norm and if so ... that's
very worrying."
Increases in chlamydia were the most dramatic, as it was felt across both genders, several age
groups and Australia-wide.
The federal government announced a $12.5 million program announced last year to increase
awareness, improve surveillance and develop a pilot testing program for the disease.
"There's certainly a momentum to try to do something about it but only time will tell whether
it's sufficient to make a serious impact," Prof Kaldor said.
The increases in gonorrhoea, syphilis and HIV/AIDs occurred predominantly in the gay community.
"It might be here that improvements in HIV treatments have lessened the motivation for people
to protect themselves sexually," Prof Kaldor speculated.
He said these three diseases needed to be treated differently with relevant and understandable
strategies that targeted the most vulnerable people.
With HIV/AIDS, the data shows a rise in new HIV diagnoses from 656 cases in 2000 to 930 in
2005, a 41 per cent increase.
Queensland had the highest increase - 48 per cent - followed by Victoria with 40 per cent,
South Australia with 34 per cent and NSW with 20 per cent.
Australian Federation of AIDS Organisations executive director Don Baxter criticised the
governments "static" funding in the area and said it must urgently invest more.
"In 2006 we are on track to record more than 1,000 new HIV infections," Mr Baxter said.
"These will add at least $500 million to PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme) drug costs in the
future, yet we're investing less than $20 million on HIV prevention now."
©AAP 20069 NEWSWATCH
> Zulu Leader -
> HIV Rate May Be 50%
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> He mentioned that according to some figures, as much as 40% of S. Africa's population might be
> HIV+ - and that according to others this might even grow to as much as 50%.
As high as? That must be using old and disgarded antenatal clinic surveys.
Bad survey type, bad tests. But hey, if you're racist piece of trash, or
working for UNAIDS and the farmaceutical corporations, then bad
news is the only news worth printing.
> That is the first time I have heard a black leader talking like this.
Are you trawling for news in the South African equivalent of Storm Front now?
But visit that website, and you get a perfect insight into the mindset of white racists,
both in South Africa and in America. Every piece of bad news, which is what
the western media specializes in anyway, is displayed as a vindication of their
overthrow.
I have a message for y'all - however bad things are now, they are nowhere near
as bad as when you were in power. Now, there is hope, there are universities,
and to a great extent, there is democracy. Which colonials NEVER introduced.
Stop dreaming and get with the program, or go to Australia. But then, you would
have to get a real job.
Alex
DavidT - 12 Oct 2006 15:14 GMT
Alex, even I don't believe these overinflated rates. They bear little
relationship to the reality.
But you see what happens - someone with an agenda or through ignorance
of the situation pronounces a 50% seroprevalence, and then when proper
studies show it is "only" 15%, the denialists claim: "See! We told you
there is no epidemic!"
Death - 12 Oct 2006 16:44 GMT
"DavidT" <david199@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
> But you see what happens - someone with an agenda or through ignorance
> of the situation pronounces a 50% seroprevalence, and then when proper
> studies show it is "only" 15%, ...
This is your chance to shine. Post those proper studies.
from the article:
> ...an analysis by Dr Jan Du Plessis, a geostrategist in Pretoria. He did an
>analysis of S. Africa called "South Africa: Beyond Democracy". His analysis was based on 30%
of
>S. Africans being HIV+. And the results of his study were horrific. He basically said S.
Africa
>would collapse due to HIV alone. That study was done quite a long time ago.
>So imagine now... with HIV maybe being at 40% or MORE...
Death - 12 Oct 2006 16:28 GMT
"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOFETHIS1@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> schreef in bericht
> >
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> As high as? That must be using old and disgarded antenatal clinic surveys.
> Bad survey type, bad tests.
That must be...LOL, or better yet, please God, don't let it be.
> But hey, if you're racist piece of trash, or
> working for UNAIDS and the farmaceutical corporations, then bad
> news is the only news worth printing.
( If ) frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their a.s every time they hopped
> > That is the first time I have heard a black leader talking like this.
>
> Are you trawling for news in the South African equivalent of Storm Front now?
Still batting zero with your whine I see, but thanks for playing.
http://www.africadaily.com/
more tears snipped