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Don Saklad - 04 Mar 2004 02:10 GMT
The Syphilis Enigma
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Baby Peanut - 04 Mar 2004 13:47 GMT
> The Syphilis Enigma
> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_syphilis/

So where's the BT link?

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Managed?  That's the joke of the third millennium!  We are being so
badly mis-managed by our Corporate Overlords that we are heading over
a cliff.  That's the point--short term gain at any cost.  You can't
prove anything is going to happen so might as well not let the
following in your way:

1. accelerated extinction rates
2. emergent diseases (AIDS, SARS, drug-resistant-anything)
3. global climate shift
4. profitable inhumanities (sweatshops, factory farms, wars)
Don Saklad - 05 Mar 2004 06:38 GMT
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&c2coff=1&q=define%3A+bt
Baby Peanut - 05 Mar 2004 17:27 GMT
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&c2coff=1&q=define%3A+bt

http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/
Don Saklad - 06 Mar 2004 00:47 GMT
> Managed?  That's the joke of the third millennium!  We are being so
> badly mis-managed by our Corporate Overlords that we are heading over
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 3. global climate shift
> 4. profitable inhumanities (sweatshops, factory farms, wars)

         Nothing is different about that list than whats happened in
         the past. It implies something is different when really it's
         the same old story.

Regarding BitTorrent, what's different about bt than using a web link
pointer?...
Baby Peanut - 06 Mar 2004 14:43 GMT
> > Managed?  That's the joke of the third millennium!  We are being so
> > badly mis-managed by our Corporate Overlords that we are heading over
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>           the past. It implies something is different when really it's
>           the same old story.

There's one difference and that's scale.  The human race keeps getting
bigger so the atrocities keep getting bigger too.  Meanwhile the Earth
does not grow to accommodate the burden.  Falling doesn't hurt, it's
only hitting the ground that hurts.

> Regarding BitTorrent, what's different about bt than using a web link
> pointer?...

Do your own research.
Don Saklad - 06 Mar 2004 21:04 GMT
> There's one difference and that's scale.  The human race keeps getting
> bigger so the atrocities keep getting bigger too.  Meanwhile the Earth
> does not grow to accommodate the burden.  Falling doesn't hurt, it's
> only hitting the ground that hurts.

         Again, all that's still true and so through history global
         climate change doesn't compare with the catastrophic meteor
         strike 50-60 thousand years ago that reduced the population
         to 5000 individuals. So, we haven't had that kind of
         catastrophe in 50 thousand years. Even with 100,000 million
         dead in world war two, it didn't compare.
         
         Whatever life there may have been on mars is probably all
         dead now except possibly near the poles. Human beings could
         do a lot of damage if there were a nuclear war, but it would
         still only wipe out an insignificant part of the species
         leaving those who happen to have resistance to
         radiation. Deaths from war wouldn't compare with what an
         asteroid could do to the planet. Lots of people would
         survive radiation and other nasty stuff.

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Baby Peanut - 07 Mar 2004 15:01 GMT
> > There's one difference and that's scale.  The human race keeps getting
> > bigger so the atrocities keep getting bigger too.  Meanwhile the Earth
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>           catastrophe in 50 thousand years. Even with 100,000 million
>           dead in world war two, it didn't compare.

Extinction is a complex thing.  Currently the biggest causes of
extinction of species are the destruction of habitats by man for
repurposing the land and introduction of competitive alien species by
man's transportation system.  These cause diversity to shrink.  The
biggest problem is that we don't know what that causes only that it is
very difficult if not impossible to reverse.

>           Whatever life there may have been on mars is probably all
>           dead now except possibly near the poles. Human beings could
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>           asteroid could do to the planet. Lots of people would
>           survive radiation and other nasty stuff.

If you want to see a nuclear disaster on Earth for real right now here
you go:

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/page2.html

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Jim Roberts - 07 Mar 2004 19:27 GMT
>>>There's one difference and that's scale.  The human race keeps getting
>>>bigger so the atrocities keep getting bigger too.  Meanwhile the Earth
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>          catastrophe in 50 thousand years. Even with 100,000 million
>>          dead in world war two, it didn't compare.

How do you feel about 8 billion folks and extreme and rapid climate
variations, which are about to be upon us, or rather our children and
grandchildren?  When I tell my 30-yr-old kids this, who thankfully have
no kids and I hope never will, they just blow me off.  I ask them just
exactly what have I ever been wrong about?  They answer that "You
thought Gore would be elected."

> Extinction is a complex thing.  Currently the biggest causes of
> extinction of species are the destruction of habitats by man for
> repurposing the land and introduction of competitive alien species by
> man's transportation system.  These cause diversity to shrink.  The
> biggest problem is that we don't know what that causes only that it is
> very difficult if not impossible to reverse.

Yes, but that is about to change in the next few decades.

>>          Whatever life there may have been on mars is probably all
>>          dead now except possibly near the poles. Human beings could
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>          asteroid could do to the planet. Lots of people would
>>          survive radiation and other nasty stuff.

There is no life on Mars and probably never was.  Every planetary
scientist with even a medulla oblongata knew that there used to be water
on Mars.  There are the anastamosing (sorry, you'll have to look it up)
flows, and other odd signs.  And there is new photographic evidence from
the rovers that is fairly convincing.  But water does not equal life.

Life on Earth almost certainly was born multiple times in multiple
places at sites of seafloor spreading.  There are no signs of such
geological activity on Mars, though there are plenty of other signs of
geological activity.  A very interesting planet.  I spent months looking
at the Viking stereo photos.  Had dreams about them.  I never saw any
reason to believe that life ever existed on Mars.  I was actually most
interested by the debris flows outside craters, as similar phenomena
occur on the Moon and Earth.

I even have my favorite one on Earth, the Blackhawk Landslide.  Got my
Porsche stuck there in the 70s, and my friend was not too happy to dig
it out with me.  My wife and I visited it on her birthday in the late
90s, but I was wise enough to park our rental car some ways away.  When
we got on top of it and I described to her how it all happened, a rock
gas that occurred when a mountain fell apart, she was very impressed,
but then wanted to get off to Vegas and Cirque du Soleil's "O" and cheap
steaks, and a climb of Charleston.  That was unsuccessful because of
weather, and I had my first experience of hypothermia, as I'm usually
very well dressed.  But the weather came up so fast, I did not take it
seriously.  You are never too old to learn a good lesson.  My wife
helped me get my extra clothes on, since I had lost lost of my
coordination;  I always carry extra clothes.  The point is to get them
on in time.

There was this woman, but my wife was too focussed on our anniversary
and her birthday, which are only a few days apart.  Later she said it
might have been interesting, but we always stay way out in Boulder.

jimbat

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Samir - 07 Mar 2004 22:59 GMT
> >>>There's one difference and that's scale.  The human race keeps getting
> >>>bigger so the atrocities keep getting bigger too.  Meanwhile the Earth
[quoted text clipped - 70 lines]
>
> [....]

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