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British government announced plans Friday to revisit legislation making it a crime to knowingly infect someone with HIV.

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Don Saklad - 07 Sep 2006 08:26 GMT
(London) The British government announced plans Friday to revisit
legislation making it a crime to knowingly infect someone with
HIV.
http://365gay.com/Newscon06/09/090106ukhiv.htm

The Crown Prosecution Service said it is not considering a call
to abolish the law but wants to clarify it so that the public is
aware how it is applied.

"We wish to issue a clear statement that explains the way we
handle cases involving the intentional or reckless sexual
transmission of infections," said Seamus Taylor,
the Director of Equality and Diversity for the service said.

"We wish to set out our position clearly as we want to promote
greater confidence in the criminal justice system - a key aim for
all agencies involved."

Taylor said that the government wants input from the public on
seven key areas. Among them should any relevance be placed when
charges are laid on whether a suspect had medical advice, if
safe-sex was ever discussed or if a suspect had the ability to
ensure that protection was used in sex.

The law has been criticized by several HIV/AIDS groups
concerned that the law was too sweepingly applied.

To date there have been eight convictions under the
law, all but one involving heterosexuals.

In the gay case, an international manhunt was launched this week
for a man convicted of infecting his same-sex partner. (story)
http://365gay.com/Newscon06/07/070406hiv.htm

Mark James failed to show up in court for his sentencing earlier
this month. A judge did not let that stop him from imposing a
three-year sentence on James.

During the trial a West London court was told that James knew he
was HIV-positive for seven months but did not share the
information with his lover, whose name is withheld under a court
order.

The partner learned of James' status after being told by a mutual
friend of the couple. When confronted with the information James
denied it and the couple continued to have unprotected sex.

The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.

Last month in a similar case the California Supreme Court ruled
that people who lead high-risk sexual lives have good reason to
know they may be infected with the virus that causes AIDS and are
responsible for informing partners about possible exposure.
(story)

A federal court in Michigan is the only other jurisdiction to
rule similarly, in a 1993 case involving former NBA star
"Magic" Johnson, who tested positive for HIV in 1991.
http://365gay.com/Newscon06/09/090106ukhiv.htm
bibon@râlant.org - 08 Sep 2006 05:58 GMT
>The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.

Homosexuals, because of their promiscuity, will lie, deny and make
every effort to suppress the truth if it helps them satisfy their lust
for "sex at any cost."
GMCarter - 08 Sep 2006 11:08 GMT
>>The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>>positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
>
>Homosexuals, because of their promiscuity, will lie, deny and make
>every effort to suppress the truth if it helps them satisfy their lust
>for "sex at any cost."

LOL...I know more heterosexual men that are like that--and a few
straight women too.

Often cause they're married.

Sillyl homophobe. Haven't had enough dick to suck yet?

        George M. Carter

***
Adams HE; Wright LW Jr; Lohr BA. Is homophobia associated with
homosexual arousal? J Abnorm Psychol 1996 Aug;105(3):440-445.

Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013,
USA.

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual
individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n =
35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to
groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W.
Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually
explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual,
and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were
monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss
& M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile
circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only
the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male
homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression.
Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the
homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Otenkiya - 08 Sep 2006 16:14 GMT
>> The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>> positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
>
> Homosexuals, because of their promiscuity, will lie, deny and make
> every effort to suppress the truth if it helps them satisfy their lust
> for "sex at any cost."

Troll alert.

I'll say it once, just for the record.  Not all homosexuals are
promiscuous.  Check your premises; you may (will find that one (or all)
of them is wrong.  </snark>

Signature

-Erica ^.^
I live for breaking the mold.

bibon@râlant.org - 08 Sep 2006 20:13 GMT
>>> The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>>> positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>promiscuous.  Check your premises; you may (will find that one (or all)
>of them is wrong.  </snark>

Homosexual males are promiscuous enough to be the number one vector of
AIDS in the US for more than twenty-five years and they are able to
accomplish this feat while making up less than 3% of the population.
PROMISCUITY AT IT FINEST!
enquiring minds - 09 Sep 2006 05:38 GMT
> >>> The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
> >>> positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> accomplish this feat while making up less than 3% of the population.
> PROMISCUITY AT IT FINEST!

Data can be misleading directly or indirectly.  Some heterosexual dating
sites have
have been known to spread some STDs rapidly because it is a small
cluster of people who
have sex with each other.  

Since homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet, the
likelihood is that many
people have secret sex so as not to lose their job or embarrass their
family.  The environment
and social acceptance of homosexuality can be a significant contributing
factor to the degree
of safe sex that is carried out as opposed to the promiscuity factor.
bibon@râlant.org - 11 Sep 2006 05:18 GMT
>Since homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet, the
>likelihood is that many
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>factor to the degree
>of safe sex that is carried out as opposed to the promiscuity factor.

Of course you're wrong. Atheist are the most hated group.

For your reading pleasure:

March 24, 2006

The Atheist is the most hated group in America

According to a study done by University of Minnesota researchers:

   American’s increasing acceptance of religious diversity doesn't
extend to those who don’t believe in a god, according to a national
survey by researchers in the University of Minnesota’s department of
sociology.

   From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below
Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority
groups in “sharing their vision of American society.” Atheists are
also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow
their children to marry.

   Even though atheists are few in number, not formally organized and
relatively hard to publicly identify, they are seen as a threat to the
American way of life by a large portion of the American public.
“Atheists, who account for about 3 percent of the U.S. population,
offer a glaring exception to the rule of increasing social tolerance
over the last 30 years,” says Penny Edgell, associate sociology
professor and the study’s lead researcher.

   Edgell also argues that today’s atheists play the role that
Catholics, Jews and communists have played in the past—they offer a
symbolic moral boundary to membership in American society. “It seems
most Americans believe that diversity is fine, as long as every one
shares a common ‘core’ of values that make them trustworthy—and in
America, that ‘core’ has historically been religious,” says Edgell.
Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with an array of
moral indiscretions ranging from criminal behavior to rampant
materialism and cultural elitism.
crack baby - 10 Sep 2006 15:30 GMT
bibon@râlant.org wrote...
>>I'll say it once, just for the record.  Not all homosexuals are
>>promiscuous.  Check your premises; you may (will find that one (or all)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> accomplish this feat while making up less than 3% of the population.
> PROMISCUITY AT IT FINEST!

And we can't forget Gaetan Dugas, the homosexual French-Canadian flight
attendent who single-handedly spread the virus across North America in
several years.  When AIDS began appearing in 1981, gays were convinced
it had to be a CIA plot, that nothing else could possibly explain how a
viral disease could appear simultaneously on both east and west coast.

The CDC soon determined it wasn't the CIA, but rather a single flight
attendent who overnighted in cities across the country where he would
engage in wild bathhouse orgies with thousands of other gay men.  Of
course the other gay men proceeded to infect thousands of others as well,
but Dugas is important because he transcended all geographical boundaries
and destroyed any chance of containing the spread of the virus.
Jeff North - 08 Sep 2006 22:35 GMT
>| bibon@râlant.org wrote:
>| > On 07 Sep 2006 03:26:05 -0400, Don Saklad
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>|
>| Troll alert.

billy-boy taylor isn't a troll. He just hangs around aph just so he
can talk about his gay fantasies.

>| I'll say it once, just for the record.  Not all homosexuals are
>| promiscuous.  Check your premises; you may (will find that one (or all)
>| of them is wrong.  </snark>
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bibon@râlant.org - 09 Sep 2006 04:47 GMT
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:35:48 GMT,

Jeff North aka Jenn, No One, maf&dog, L. Michael Roberts and dozens
more,  wrote:

>billy-boy taylor isn't a troll. He just hangs around aph just so he
>can talk about his gay fantasies.

Who is Bill Taylor and why do you fear him so much? Every post that a
homo or homophile can't refute is said to come from this mysterious
Bill Taylor -- when was the last time anyone saw a post from this
alleged 'Bill Taylor'? I suggest that he is to homosexuals and their
'philes what the 'Chupacabra' is to the uneducated of Mexico and
Central America; some thing that scares them shitless, that comes out
of the mist of night to torment them....poor babeeeeeeeeeees!
crack baby - 09 Sep 2006 16:00 GMT
Otenkiya wrote...

>>>The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>>>positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> promiscuous.  Check your premises; you may (will find that one (or all)
> of them is wrong.  </snark>

You are correct, I happen to be homosexual and I am not promiscuous.
Sadly, I seem to be the only one, and I am also probably one of the
only gay men in America who isn't HIV+.  Whoever wrote the paragraph
above yours is pretty much correct, the behavior describes every
homosexual male I have ever known.  While sexual orientation is no
longer considered a mental disorder, the behavior of gay men is a
mental disorder in that it has disrupted their lives and turned
them into drugged-out sex addicts.  I'm not sure if they can even
be considered human anymore, they become nothing more than walking
penises with orifices for drug and semen ingestion.
Strife767 - 09 Sep 2006 17:18 GMT
> Otenkiya wrote...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> be considered human anymore, they become nothing more than walking
> penises with orifices for drug and semen ingestion.

Wow, what a stupidly obvious load of trolling. If I didn't know you were  
lying out of your a.s, I would ask you--how are you not promiscuous yet  
all the gay men you know are? Someone who isn't a slut doesn't hang around  
sluts all day. You are so full of sh.t.
don warner saklad - 09 Sep 2006 21:10 GMT
How do you know you and your sex partner or partners are not HIV+ ?...
Dennis Kemmerer - 10 Sep 2006 00:52 GMT
> How do you know you and your sex partner or partners are not HIV+ ?...

You apparently didn't understand the answers to that question the last time
you trolled, er, asked.
enquiring minds - 09 Sep 2006 05:24 GMT
> >The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
> >positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
>
> Homosexuals, because of their promiscuity, will lie, deny and make
> every effort to suppress the truth if it helps them satisfy their lust
> for "sex at any cost."

Heterosexual men around the world by the millions try to talk women in
to having unprotected sex
every minute of the day.  Go to any heterosexual bar and watch the men
desperate for a yes from
any woman.
h@râlant.org - 11 Sep 2006 05:24 GMT
>> >The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
>> >positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>desperate for a yes from
>any woman.

This being completely opposite from the homosexual "scene" where every
one is ready to f.ck at the drop of a hat. Right, Governor?
bob&carole - 10 Sep 2006 03:35 GMT
> >The partner only discovered the truth after he tested
> >positive for HIV. At that point he went to police.
>
> Homosexuals, because of their promiscuity, will lie, deny and make
> every effort to suppress the truth if it helps them satisfy their lust
> for "sex at any cost."

Don't forget underage boys, gerbils and bowling pins.........
crack baby - 09 Sep 2006 15:25 GMT
Don Saklad wrote...
> (London) The British government announced plans Friday to revisit
> legislation making it a crime to knowingly infect someone with
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to abolish the law but wants to clarify it so that the public is
> aware how it is applied.

And I thought they were considering passing such a law, but it
seems they already have such a law but are so afraid to enforce
it that they would rather abolish it.  Not suprising at all,
considering that the UK is also considering paying for HIV
treatment for illegal African aliens, and there are even calls
for the country to offer an open invitation for all HIV+
Africans to emigrate to the UK for free health care.

> To date there have been eight convictions under the
> law, all but one involving heterosexuals.

Several years ago I ranted on about how in the USA almost nobody
is ever prosecuted under the intentional transmission statutes,
and that in the few cases that have been prosecuted they were
almost always heterosexual transmission - specifically a male
infecting a female.

> In the gay case, an international manhunt was launched this week
> for a man convicted of infecting his same-sex partner. (story)
> http://365gay.com/Newscon06/07/070406hiv.htm

In the single homosexual HIV transmission case I remember being
prosecuted, it involved a known AIDS patient anally raping the
teenage son of conspiracy radio show host Art Bell.  The case
would never have been prosecuted if the victim was another adult
male, and probably not even an underage boy, except that in this
case the victim was the kid of a local celebrity.

> Last month in a similar case the California Supreme Court ruled
> that people who lead high-risk sexual lives have good reason to
> know they may be infected with the virus that causes AIDS and are
> responsible for informing partners about possible exposure.
> (story)

You should note that the California decision involved a married
couple where the husband was bisexual and infected his wife.  He
is being held liable because he is a male who infected a female.
If both were male, no court would rule in the victim's favor.  It
would seem that the attitude is that the intentional transmission
of contagious sexually-transmitted diseases is some sort of civil
right for homosexuals, as well as that homosexual victims of HIV
infections don't deserve legal recourse because since most gays
are already infected, and that they should have assumed that
their partner was HIV+ and taken the appropriate precautions.  No
such assumption is expected when a woman consents to sex with a
man.  Females who infect males aren't prosecuted, though, they
enjoy the same minority/victim status as gay men.
 
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