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GMCarter - 14 Aug 2006 19:10 GMT
A good article on why so many millions are still being murdered by
Pharma's greed, after having purchased the venal US government to
legislate its larceny into law:
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journ
al.pmed.0030332


        George M. Carter
Death - 15 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT
> A good article on why so many millions are still being murdered by
> Pharma's greed, after having purchased the venal US government to
> legislate its larceny into law:

http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journ
al.pmed.0030332


August 15, 2006
Military's Discharges for Being Gay Rose in '05
By JOHN FILES

WASHINGTON, Aug. 14 - The Defense Department discharged 726 service members last year for being
gay, up about 10 percent from 2004, figures released by a gay rights group show.

The group, the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, obtained the information through a Freedom
of Information Act request. A spokeswoman for the Defense Department, Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke,
confirmed that it had released the information.

On Monday, the legal group released a breakdown of discharges by installation. A sharp increase
occurred at Fort Campbell, Ky., where in 1999 a soldier was bludgeoned to death in his barracks
by fellow soldiers who thought he was homosexual. In 2004, 19 service members from the base
were discharged, a number that climbed to 49 last year.

Fort Sill, Okla., had 27 dismissals last year, up from 8 in 2004. Fort Leonard Wood, Mo., had
60 dismissals, up from 40 in 2004, and the Marine base at Parris Island, S.C., discharged 22,
up from 12.

The Army, by far the largest branch of the military, discharged more gay personnel last year
than the other branches with 386, the figures show, followed by the Navy with 177, the Air
Force with 88 and the Marines, the smallest force, with 75.

The overall number of men and women dismissed because they were found to be gay or because they
disclosed their sexuality fell in the three years from 2002 to 2004. From Sept. 11, 2001,
through last year, the discharge rate dropped 40 percent.

The total of such discharges in 2004 was 653. That compares with 770 in 2003, 885 in 2002 and
1,227 in 2001.

Under a policy introduced by the Clinton administration known as "don't ask, don't tell," the
military cannot inquire into service members' sex lives unless there is evidence of homosexual
conduct.

Those who volunteer the information have to be discharged. More than 11,000 members have been
discharged for that reason, the legal group said.

In a review by the Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress, the
Pentagon said last year that more service members had been discharged for drug offenses,
pregnancy and weight problems than for being gay.

Colonel Krenke said: "The Department of Defense policy on homosexual conduct in the military
implements a federal law enacted in 1993 following extensive hearings and debate. The law would
need to be changed to affect the department's policy."

The military has argued that allowing openly gay troops would disrupt unit cohesion and
undermine the services' missions. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has said that the Bush
administration will not revisit the policy.

Representative Martin T. Meehan of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the House Armed
Services Subcommittee on Terrorism, Unconventional Threats and Capabilities, introduced a bill
last year to repeal the policy on gay service members.

In an interview on Monday, Mr. Meehan pointed to "the seamless integration of openly gay
service members into the militaries of many of our closest allies, namely the United Kingdom,
Australia and Israel." His bill has 118 supporters, including 5 Republicans.

A spokesman for the legal group, Steve Ralls, said it had detected no increased effort to oust
members under the policy last year. Mr. Ralls said that some bases reporting increases in
discharges had few, if any, reports of unchecked harassment. It often boils down to the
tolerance of individual commanders, he said.

"In the end," Mr. Ralls said, "we just don't know what exactly led to these dismissals."

Some service members have used the policy to escape their military obligations as morale has
dipped and multiple overseas deployments have caused strain, Mr. Ralls added.

The legal group has also seen an increase in the malicious use of the Internet and e-mail to
disclose the sexual orientation of service members, Mr. Ralls said. Sites like MySpace.com are
routinely visited by service members and military officials, and service members who identify
themselves as gay or lesbian on the Internet risk expulsion.

In one case, the orientation of a gay sergeant was disclosed to his superiors by anonymous
e-mail messages. The sergeant was honorably discharged this year from the Army.

Lizette Alvarez contributed reporting from New York for this article.
Dildeaux - 15 Aug 2006 17:38 GMT
> August 15, 2006
> Military's Discharges for Being Gay Rose in '05
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> gay, up about 10 percent from 2004, figures released by a gay rights group
> show.

Oh puhleeeeez, Miss Death - being a drama queen is never enough for you,
girl!

Now you call out a mere 726 gay soldiers???

Hilarious - we ALL know the military is simply CRAWLING with gay men and
lesbians - best soldiers all around, by the way.

So Death, who would you rather being watching your a.s - some stupid
hetero who worries about his ugly fish bitch back home whose busy popping
ugly hetero babies, or some hot guy who is REALLY more interested in
watching your a.s?
Death - 16 Aug 2006 03:04 GMT
"Dildeaux" <dildeaux@toys.com> wrote in message

> So Death, who would you rather being watching your a.s -

I would rather being my a.s watched by a soldier.
However, that would have nothing to do with the coward faggots
disclosing their perversion so they can be dismissed
from serving when things got a little rough.

From the article,

Some service members have used the policy to escape their military obligations as morale has
dipped and multiple overseas deployments have caused strain, Mr. Ralls added.

The legal group has also seen an increase in the malicious use of the Internet and e-mail to
disclose the sexual orientation of service members, Mr. Ralls said.

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The way I read this is....... they are not (looking out for) anyone's a.s
but their own, but thanks for playing
GMCarter - 16 Aug 2006 11:50 GMT
>"Dildeaux" <dildeaux@toys.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>disclosing their perversion so they can be dismissed
>from serving when things got a little rough.

I think MOST of the military should be gay at this point.

They're being maimed and slaughtered for the lies and perversions of
Dick Cheney, George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and the US Congress.

There was never any need to go into Iraq--it's just made things worse
and solved nothing. It is a disgrace and a vile way to treat our
troops. They scream "support our troops"? That's the most hypocritical
and cynical load of sh.t that ever comes out of the mouth of a
politician, particularly slugs like these guys that never saw combat
and found ways to shirk their duty.

        George M. Carter
Death - 16 Aug 2006 14:50 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> There was never any need to go into Iraq--it's just made things worse
> and solved nothing. It is a disgrace and a vile way to treat our
> troops. They scream "support our troops"? That's the most hypocritical
> and cynical load of sh.t that ever comes out of the mouth of a
> politician, particularly slugs like these guys that never saw combat
> and found ways to shirk their duty.

With that, I agree

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Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:43pm ET

TORONTO (Reuters) - AIDS is "spiraling out of control" in Asia among men who have sex with
other men, activists warned on Tuesday -- and the epidemic is likely to spread because many of
these men also marry or have sex with women.

And because the issue of homosexual sex is taboo in many Asian cultures, these men are
difficult to identify and reach through public health campaigns, the American Foundation for
AIDS Research, or AmFAR, and a group called TREAT Asia said in a joint report.

"Unless we address male to male sex and HIV risks and vulnerability, it is going to have a
major impact on the general population because a lot of the people we work with are also
married," said Shivandanda Khan of Naz Foundation International, a non-governmental
organization that works with men who have sex with men (MSM) in India.

"In our culture it is also compulsory to get married. They have no choice," Khan told a news
conference.

Many men who have sex with men are often married, the report said. For instance, 80 percent of
men who admit to having sex with other men in China say they hare married or plan to get
married.

And many of the men have dangerously false beliefs about sexual health, the report said. Up to
half of the men in some areas have never used a condom, the report said.

"A lot of men in Asia believe that anal sex is safer than vaginal sex," Khan said in an
interview.

While in Western countries gay groups have been active in fighting the AIDS epidemic, the "gay
identity" is not dominant among Asian men who have sex with other men, the report said.

Because of that, the advocacy pioneered by gay communities in the Western world over the past
25 years does not work in Asia, where men who have sex with other men are "invisible" and
difficult to identify, the report said.

"In Africa, Latin America, Asia the current rates of HIV infections among men who have sex with
men are really spiraling out of control," said Kevin Frost, AmFAR's vice president for global
initiatives.

"The truth is, we shouldn't be in this position. We really cannot afford to relearn the lessons
of the past 25 years in many parts of the world, in the developing world, particularly around
MSM issues."

Public health experts use the term "men who have sex with men," or MSM, because many of these
men are not strictly homosexual or even bisexual. The report gives some examples of why from
Asia.

For instance, it says, 65 percent of MSM in Nepal have regular sex with females, and 45 percent
of male sex workers have sex with women as well as with men.

It said 22 percent of MSM in Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh city have sex with women as well as men.

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