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surveyblue@gmail.com - 27 Jul 2006 16:31 GMT
This survey is intended to help us understand more about HIV positive
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GMCarter - 27 Jul 2006 22:30 GMT
>This survey is intended to help us understand more about HIV positive
>people's knowledge of and feelings about their disease.
>
>It takes only 5 minutes or less to complete.

I would ignore this as the most vile kind of spam.

        George M. Carter
Death - 17 Aug 2006 18:16 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >This survey is intended to help us understand more about HIV positive
> >people's knowledge of and feelings about their disease.
> >
> >It takes only 5 minutes or less to complete.
> >
> I would ignore this as the most vile kind of spam.

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:45pm ET
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

TORONTO (Reuters) - As many as one in 300 HIV patients never get sick and never suffer damage
to their immune systems and AIDS experts said on Wednesday they want to know why.

Most have gone unnoticed by the top researchers, because they are well, do not need treatment
and do not want attention, said Dr. Bruce Walker of Harvard Medical School.

But Walker and colleagues want to study these so-called "elite" patients in the hope that their
cases can help in the search for a vaccine or treatments.

"What in the heck is going on in people that successfully control this virus?" Walker asked a
news conference held at the 16th International Conference on AIDS.

"If we can figure out how people are doing that, we can try to replicate it."

So far Walker and colleagues have not been able to find out why certain people can live for 15
years and longer with the virus and never get ill. The AIDS virus usually kills patients within
two years if they are not treated.

Some even appear to have weak immune responses, he noted. "Is it just that these people got
infected with a wimpy virus? The answer to that is no," Walker said.

"Some of the people know who infected them," he added, and in those cases, the person who
infected the "elite" patients always went on to become ill.

A few years into the AIDS epidemic, researchers identified people who were called "long-term
non-progressors." These were patients infected with HIV who did not become ill.

Many have become ill as the years have gone by, and required treatment.

Walker said a few of the long-term non-progressors were now classified as "elite" patients. But
the difference is that the "elite" status is clearly defined by how much virus they have
circulating in their blood.

Loreen Willenberg, of Diamond Springs, California, is a newly designated "elite." Now 52 and
healthy, she said she became infected in 1992.

BAD DREAM

"I dreamed that I was HIV positive," Willenberg told the news conference.

"I was really going through a very bad flu." She sought testing, and after getting an
inconclusive result was later declared HIV positive.

HIV patients are not immediately put onto drugs that can keep them healthy, but wait until the
virus reaches a certain level in the blood or until the virus kills a certain number of immune
system cells called CD4 T-cells.

Willenberg, a landscape designer, never got to that point.

"I am in perfect health. I think I have had maybe only one cold in the past 14 years," she
said.

Walker has tracked down 200 elite patients and has now joined up with other prominent AIDS
researchers to find at least 1,000 "elites" in North America and as many as possible globally.

Based on research done so far, Walker estimates there are 2,000 of them in the United States.

His team wants to take blood and DNA samples to see what might be different about them.
Confidentiality is promised.

The recently published map of the human genome will make this possible.

They will compare key genetic sequences of the "elite" patients to genetic readouts from
healthy people and from other HIV patients. Maybe a few genetic variations can explain what is
happening, Walker hopes.
js - 22 Aug 2006 15:47 GMT
<surveyblue@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message :
1154014268.736362.85280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> This survey is intended to help us understand more about HIV positive
> people's knowledge of and feelings about their disease.

To make you fully understand: People normally know nothing of or feel
anything about a disease they didn't have before greedy scumbags started to
tell them they had it and that they'd better worry about it and get stuffed
with toxic drugs.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. And you too, Noble, Carter, DaveT,
Saklad  & co.
GMCarter - 23 Aug 2006 11:53 GMT
><surveyblue@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message :
>1154014268.736362.85280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Put that in your pipe and smoke it. And you too, Noble, Carter, DaveT,
>Saklad  & co.

Have you taken the HIV challenge, oh brave and fearless one of all
knowledge, Jannie--poo?
js - 23 Aug 2006 12:28 GMT
GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message :
hscoe2hvhib1cdfcfde54mtoo7jjft63vl@4ax.com...

> ><surveyblue@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message :
> >1154014268.736362.85280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Have you taken the HIV challenge, oh brave and fearless one of all
> knowledge, Jannie--poo?

Which challenge, my dear? The challenge that I let people I don't know
inject some dirt directly into my veins so that they can tell later, by
doing ridiculous tests that detects sh.t related to nobody knows what, that
I lost?

You must be kidding! Ha, ha, ha, you're too funny, really.

js
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GMCarter - 24 Aug 2006 12:30 GMT
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>Which challenge, my dear? The challenge that I let people I don't know
>inject some dirt directly into my veins so that they can tell later, by
>doing ridiculous tests that detects sh.t related to nobody knows what, that
>I lost?

Nah, as I figured. You're just another chicken sh.t full of f.cking
crap. If you aren't afraid of HIV, you wouldn't be afraid of a little
blood, would you?

But deep down, you know you're wrong. And if you become HIV infected,
you'll watch your Tcells go away and--like WAY too many people--die of
AIDS.

Meantime, you clearly don't give a damn about all those men, women and
children because you cling to this delirious fantasy.

        George M. Carter
js - 24 Aug 2006 17:18 GMT
> snip
> >Which challenge, my dear? The challenge that I let people I don't know
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>
> George M. Carter

But I do care, my dear. That's why I would never even think about giving people all those
toxic drugs when they need food and care.

But Georgie, if you care so much about other people, why do you call me just another
chicken sh.t full of f.cking crap? Why don't you love me too? Because I've got lost
somewhere on the road to ultimate wisdom? Then teach me your wisdom, Master of the Truth!

Wouaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, you are some fun to have around.
GMCarter - 25 Aug 2006 02:15 GMT
>Man, you are some fun to have around.

You would be except your duller n dogdirt, dearie.

I do feel sorry that you are so belligerently ignorant.

Your choice. And a mighty dull one.

        George M. Carter
js - 25 Aug 2006 08:40 GMT
> >Man, you are some fun to have around.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> George M. Carter

See? If you want, you don't need to bark. Now, be a good boy, behave and cut out the dirty
words.
GMCarter - 25 Aug 2006 11:09 GMT
>See? If you want, you don't need to bark. Now, be a good boy, behave and cut out the dirty
>words.

LOL...well, your safest method of sexual gratification is embedded in
the following endearment.

Go f.ck yourself, Jannie.
js - 25 Aug 2006 20:37 GMT
> >See? If you want, you don't need to bark. Now, be a good boy, behave and cut out the dirty
> >words.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Go f.ck yourself, Jannie.

George! How shocking! Why did you become such a rude boy?

Huh? Were you treated that bad at school? Really? Hum, I see...

What did you say? Girls never look at you? Ah yes, I understand better.

But you know, little George, the ruder you are, the less people will like you, especially
sweet girls. I know, because they all like me.

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