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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / July 2006Rath finally before court in Hamburg.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,425647,00.html Matthias Rath is finally being prosecuted for medical fraud. Matthias Rath created the impression that his vitamin preparations could cure patients with acute cancer. He peddled his concoctions online falsely claiming that they could cure cancer. Through his internet side he also "created the impression" that his concotions could cure acute cancer. This is however not the case and Rath knows this according the the Hamburg department of justice. Actually, I think Rath believes in his own alternate version of reality. The court case against Rath started on the 13th of this month. You would expect to find something about this on his website. Wrong. On the 19th Rath publishes this http://www4ger.dr-rath-foundation.org/DIE_FOUNDATION/20060719_israel_libanon.htm Rath claims that the "pharma-cartel" is deliberately starting a world war so that they can rule the world. Bush, Merkel, Blair are just puppets of the pharmaceutical industry cartel. This man is just plain nuts. Meanwhile despite apparently closing down his South Africa business he is still the darling of the heath minister. http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1972128,00.html According to Charity Bhengu the court case in Germany has nothing to do with Rath's operations in SA. ?? Rath makes false claims about the ability of his pills to cure cancer. He encouraged Dominik's parents to stop chemotherapy. The boy dies. Rath makes false claims about the ability of exactly the same pills to cure AIDS. He encouraged AIDS patients to stop ARV therapy. AIDS patients die When is Rath finally going to be put in jail (or psychiatric institution)? Chris Noble > http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,425647,00.html > > He encouraged Dominik's parents to stop chemotherapy. The boy dies. Shiiiiiiiiiit !!! That's too bad! We know that nobody on chemotherapy ever died. > He encouraged AIDS patients to stop ARV therapy. AIDS patients die Shiiiiiiiiiit !! That's too bad! We know that nobody on ARVs ever died. Don't we, Noble? Hey Noble, tell me. How much do you get paid to spread your sh.t over the Web? > > http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,425647,00.html > > > > He encouraged Dominik's parents to stop chemotherapy. The boy dies. > > Shiiiiiiiiiit !!! That's too bad! We know that nobody on chemotherapy ever died. The difference is that honest doctors a) present real evidence that chemotherapy improves the chances of survival b) provide honest estimates of the chances of chemotherapy being successful. In this case the doctors were honest in saying what Dominik's chances of survival would have been with chemotherapy. Dominik's parents looked for someone offering better odds. Unfortunately they fell into the hands of a charlatan who offered false hope. Rath has produced no evidence that his vitamin preparations have any significant effect. Dominik was supposed to be scientific proof for the efficacy of his vitamins except he died with a massive tumour in his chest. > > He encouraged AIDS patients to stop ARV therapy. AIDS patients die > > Shiiiiiiiiiit !! That's too bad! We know that nobody on ARVs ever died. Again honest doctors a) provide evidence that ARVs increase the life expectancy of people with AIDS b) are honest that ARVs are not a cure and that eventually most people infected with HIV will eventually progress to AIDS and die c) in long term ARV treatment a significant proportion of patients will develop serious life threatening drug toxicity. Rath on the other hand tells lies about the benefits of his vitamins and denies the benefits of ARVs. The supposed evidence for the efficacy of Rath's vitamins for the treatment of AIDS was a "clinical trial" self-published on his own website except at least two the people put forward as "scientific proof" died shortly after stopping ARVs and starting his vitamins. > Don't we, Noble? > > Hey Noble, tell me. How much do you get paid to spread your sh.t over the Web? Nothing. Chris Noble I somehow don't think Jannie has the intellectual capacity or integrity to be able to distinguish quackery of the Rath type from the reality of orthodox medical practice and research. He certainly has a massive wall eye where it comes to anything that threatens his cosy preconceptions. > I somehow don't think Jannie has the intellectual capacity or integrity > to be able to distinguish quackery of the Rath type from the reality of > orthodox medical practice and research. He certainly has a massive wall > eye where it comes to anything that threatens his cosy preconceptions. The bizarre thing is that Jan does not believe in the whole "germ theory of disease" while Rath claims that HIV exists and causes AIDS. http://www.aids-vitamins.org/virusornot.htm I can only conclude that Jan defends this quack because Rath is anti-establishment in terms of his false claims that vitamins are more effective than ARVs in treating HIV infection. This requires some degree of mental disconnection. Chris Noble The BMJ also has an article on the court case http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/333/7560/166-b?ehom BMJ 2006;333:166 (22 July), doi:10.1136/bmj.333.7560.166-b Chris Noble >http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,425647,00.html > >Matthias Rath is finally being prosecuted for medical fraud. Excellent. There is NO cure for AIDS. For Rath to c laim this is bullshit. There ARE treatments. A multivitamin is an excellent treatment. If people were smart, they'd get them out FREE to everyone, have more people get tested for EARLIER treatment with a multi. It can slow progression substantially. It does NOT cure AIDS. A multi will not STOP progression. When a person progresses, antiviral therapy will improve the situation dramatically. There are side effects. Continued use of a multi may help limit those side effects. ARV do not cure AIDS--but they are an excellent treatment. People that say a multi is worthless are wrong. a.sholes that say a multi is a CURE are deluded or lying. a.sholes that say ARV should be avoided are committing some degree of murder. George M. Carter > >http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,425647,00.html > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > George M. Carter The whole vitamins OR ARVs is a construct of Rath and other charlatans. Good nutrition including vitamin supplements is a standard part of "orthodox" medicine. Wafaie Fawzi and others have done research on the role of vitamin supplements for people with AIDS. Their work was misrepresented by Rath. Chris Noble
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