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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / July 2006Oncogenes, Aneuploidy and AIDS
Just read this book by Harvey Bialy, about the scientific life of Peter Duesberg. Can anyone comment on it? I'm not a medical student, nor a molecular biologist, so some of the stuff Bialy talks about goes over my head. particulary in the beginning as Bialy explains present day theory about viruses and how they relate to cancer theory and how this maybe be related to AIDS. and in the end when Bialy seems excitied about Duesbergs discoveries in the field of Cancer research, but I cannot tell what effect this would have on modern HIV/AIDS theory, and what is Bialy so excited about? > Just read this book by Harvey Bialy, about the scientific life of Peter > Duesberg. Can anyone comment on it? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cancer research, but I cannot tell what effect this would have on > modern HIV/AIDS theory, and what is Bialy so excited about? Both he and Duesberg still hope that Duesberg will somehow win the Nobel prize for his cancer theory and be rehabilitated as a scientist. Ain't gonna happen, Duesberg has destroyed his own career. When someone gets so desperate to support their theories that they start lying about the content of their cites in published papers, you know it's over. Next step down the ladder is taking your case to the lay public, which of course Duesberg has been doing now for decades with the help of Barry - oh, sorry, I mean Celia - Farber and publishing his book for the extreme right wing Regnery publishing house. And of course, he is 70 and the average lifespan for a male here is, I think, 72. >. And of course, he is >70 and the average lifespan for a male here is, I think, 72. Oh, that's just CRUEL, Richard. That means Dubya could live another 12 years. Ugh. Well, maybe folks like Petie, Rummy, Dickie (Cheney), Tony Scalia and Clarence Uncle Thomas will beat the odds and start stroking out soon! And maybe the 6th Circuit judges too!! http://www.afj.org/2006/07/why-sixth-circuit-okays-dirty-dozen.html Hope springs eternal! George M. Carter > >. And of course, he is > >70 and the average lifespan for a male here is, I think, 72. > > Oh, that's just CRUEL, Richard. > > That means Dubya could live another 12 years. Actually George, the chances of Dubya living well beyond the age of 72 are very high. Life expectancy is estimated from birth, for someone who has managed to survive long enough to get near the normal predicted age, it implies they are very likely to survive well beyond it. >> >. And of course, he is >> >70 and the average lifespan for a male here is, I think, 72. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >has managed to survive long enough to get near the normal predicted >age, it implies they are very likely to survive well beyond it. What a horrible thought. > > Just read this book by Harvey Bialy, about the scientific life of Peter > > Duesberg. Can anyone comment on it? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the extreme right wing Regnery publishing house. And of course, he is > 70 and the average lifespan for a male here is, I think, 72. I doubt that, I dont think its been Duesberg mis-representing the contents of his sites in papers. At least thats the idea that being presented reading Bialy's book. If you read the book maybe you can tell me where Bialy admits this about Duesberg...? 72 is old, but duesberg looks quite young for his age, he looks 50 ish. Or perhaps you mean that Duesberg is basically refuting his own theory about "oncogenes" with his "aneuploidy" theory about cancer? If your post is genuine, Ozzy, you should read the essays on my site, http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-/ I think they will answer your questions, but if not, feel free to use either of the message boards there to ask. I am an independent scholar with no conflicts of interest or ties to any industry or agency. I sell no products. I am simply trying to help, as I was able to help myself back in 2000 due to my training in evidence analysis (in graduate school).
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