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Does TCM helps Aids

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tummywarrior - 06 Jul 2006 13:56 GMT
hello!

I have a question. Do Traditional Chinese Medicine helps to improve
the conditions of Aids patience? and Does anyone know which kind??

thank you!  :D
dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane - 06 Jul 2006 14:10 GMT
tummywarrior wrote...
> hello!
>
> I have a question. Do Traditional Chinese Medicine helps to improve
> the conditions of Aids patience? and Does anyone know which kind??
>
> thank you!  :D

Do you really have to ask such a stupid question?  While traditional
Chinese herbs may have mild medicinal effects, if the effects were
significant at all they would have already been proven in Western
studies and would be FDA-approved medications.

Since AIDS is spreading like wildfire across China, it is doubtful
that traditional Chinese medicine works at all for HIV.  If you think
you can treat your HIV with some concoction of ginseng, rhinocerous
horn, and snake gall, then you are a fool.
Dildeaux - 10 Jul 2006 14:57 GMT
> tummywarrior wrote...
>> hello!
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> you can treat your HIV with some concoction of ginseng, rhinocerous
> horn, and snake gall, then you are a fool.

One reason for AIDS spread in China has to do mostly with the
unwillingness of hospitals to sterilize their instruments/needles
properly. This DEFINITELY includes acupuncture needles.
However, in the U.S. most acupuncturists use disposable needles
-- but sadly some do not.

As to herbal "treatments":
I would not only agree with DDT, but would add that the practice of
TCM in the US (in the treatment of HIV/AIDS) has been little more
than a scam from the outset: the cookie-cutter herbal treatments have
been everything traditional TCM is NOT. Worse, it is suspected that
many of the "immune herbs" are horrifically immunosuppressive and
have cut many lives dramatically short.

Bottom line: take your money and have a good time in Las Vegas -
that will elevate your immune system more than TCM will.
GMCarter - 07 Jul 2006 23:15 GMT
>hello!
>
>I have a question. Do Traditional Chinese Medicine helps to improve
>the conditions of Aids patience? and Does anyone know which kind??

It's hard to say. Some studies of things like acupuncture suggest a
benefit to manage neuropathy, a condition that can arise caused by HIV
or the meds used to treat it.

Other botanical interventions from the Chinese tradition may help with
things like hemoglobin counts.

Chinese medicine is best used on an individual basis making it harder
to study using western methods. Practice in China and publications in
Chinese are often not translated into English, so hard to say what all
may have been found there.

Other studies are underway or in development.

But you must realize your question is VERY broad. Can you narrow it
down a bit?

        George M. Carter
Dildeaux - 10 Jul 2006 15:04 GMT
>>hello!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Other botanical interventions from the Chinese tradition may help with
> things like hemoglobin counts.

Sadly, Carter is correct here - TCM has been reduced as the last
resort to treat the wreckage caused by the so-called HIV drugs
(neuropathy, anemia, cytopenias, liver disease, pancreatic
failure, degenerations of all tissues and organ systems, mental
illness - suicidal ideation, depression, etc etc).

While TCM is described as a "failure" in treating HIV (for
some of the reasons above), isn't it interesting how so many
on this newsgroup describe these lethal drug treatments
as "successes"?

> Practice in China and publications in
> Chinese are often not translated into English, so hard to say what all
> may have been found there.

Not so. Unfortunately, Mr. Carter is uninformed.

> Other studies are underway or in development.

As always.

> But you must realize your question is VERY broad. Can you narrow it
> down a bit?

Would it matter?
GMCarter - 10 Jul 2006 15:30 GMT
>> Practice in China and publications in
>> Chinese are often not translated into English, so hard to say what all
>> may have been found there.
>
>Not so. Unfortunately, Mr. Carter is uninformed.

We all float in a vast sea of ignorance...in your treading of the
famed seas of TCM, by all means, do enlighten us.

You claim that publications in Chinese then are often translated into
English? Where may these be found?

>> But you must realize your question is VERY broad. Can you narrow it
>> down a bit?
>
>Would it matter?

Yes.

        George M. Carter
 
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