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monty1945@lycos.com - 29 Jun 2006 07:35 GMT
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I cite extensively from studies and reports, and provide actual
quotations from the scientists who did the research whenver possible.
The essays are listed on the left hand side of the page.  It will take
a while to read them, because there is technical language involved, but

if you take the time you will see that the "germ theory" (which has
never even been articulated as a formal hypothesis) is no longer
viable.  Blaming "pathogens" for a disease is like blaming vultures for

the dead water buffalo that the lions killed.  Much of the evidence I
cite is recent, so a big problem is that the powers that be are
unaware, and another major problem is excessive specialization.  If you

read the essays, it will become clear that the evidence is overwhelming

at this point.  There is also a newsgroup page where you can ask
questions or post studies (if you want me to examine the studies and
render an opinion).
GMCarter - 29 Jun 2006 11:36 GMT
>I cite extensively from studies and reports

No, you don't.
monty1945@lycos.com - 30 Jun 2006 09:56 GMT
Excellent post, Mr. Carter, because now anyone who wishes can go there,
click on the essay links on the left, and see all the citations.  At
that point, you will be exposed as for what you are (to those of who
have not read many of your posts in the past).  Thank you, however, for
not resorting to the usual obscentities you seem to favor so much in
your other posts.
GMCarter - 30 Jun 2006 15:55 GMT
>Excellent post, Mr. Carter, because now anyone who wishes can go there,
>click on the essay links on the left, and see all the citations.  

Of course anyone can. They can also go to the K-Mart site.

Are you trying to make the point that pathogens never cause disease?
The confused amount of dithering makes it rather impossible to
ascertain just which myth you're trying to perpetuate.

        George M. Carter
mattlb@angelfire.com - 30 Jun 2006 11:11 GMT
> I cite extensively from studies and reports, and provide actual
> quotations from the scientists who did the research whenver possible.

That would be whenever they say something you agree with, I assume.

> The essays are listed on the left hand side of the page.  It will take
> a while to read them, because there is technical language involved,

But not technical understanding.

> if you take the time you will see that the "germ theory" (which has
> never even been articulated as a formal hypothesis) is no longer
> viable.  Blaming "pathogens" for a disease is like blaming vultures for
> the dead water buffalo that the lions killed.

What an absurd analogy. You're saying that pathogens only turn up after
the disease has already appeared are you? How is it vaccines work to
prevent specific diseases then, if they're all just caused by
inflammation?

What about antibiotics? If you kill off pathogenic bacteria the
symptoms of the disease disappear. If you kill off the vultures, do the
lions vomit up the meat back onto the bones of the water buffalo?

How is it animals get diseases, when they can't possibly be arachidonic
acid overloaded?

>  Much of the evidence I
> cite is recent, so a big problem is that the powers that be are
> unaware, and another major problem is excessive specialization.  If you
> read the essays, it will become clear that the evidence is overwhelming
> at this point.

You do love your baseless hyperbole, don't you.

MattLB
Chris Noble - 02 Jul 2006 07:02 GMT
> Go to:  http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-/
>
> I cite extensively from studies and reports, and provide actual
> quotations from the scientists who did the research whenver possible.

Have you written to any of the scientists whose work you cite? Do any
of them agree with your conclusions?

Chris Noble
 
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