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A recursive question. Conspiracy theories about attempts to circulate conspiracy theories.

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Don Saklad - 20 Jun 2006 04:57 GMT
A somewhat recursive question.
What conspiracy theories are there?... about
the attempts to circulate the conspiracy theories
we see around. Disinformation?
monty1945@lycos.com - 20 Jun 2006 09:47 GMT
Perhaps, Don, you can clue us all in on what in the world you are
trying to say.  In the meantime, I will continue to ask for just ONE
scientific study that demonstrates the connection between what has been
deemed retroviral phenomena and a clinical syndrome that contains
everything except the proverbial kitchen sink, or has that been added
within the last 24 hour?  I would not be at all surprised if it was.
GMCarter - 20 Jun 2006 10:51 GMT
>Perhaps, Don, you can clue us all in on what in the world you are
>trying to say.  In the meantime, I will continue to ask for just ONE

a.shole. There isn't just ONE. There's THOUSANDS.
js - 20 Jun 2006 11:52 GMT
Le Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:51:39 +0200, GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> a écrit:

>> Perhaps, Don, you can clue us all in on what in the world you are
>> trying to say.  In the meantime, I will continue to ask for just ONE
>
> a.shole. There isn't just ONE. There's THOUSANDS.

So then why don't you cite just ONE, you dummy ?

Oh no, I don't have to ask. Because, if you read any of the THOUSANDS, you  
find that it's the same BS as any other one of the THOUSANDS.

And why do you need the nasty words, Georgie? Because you already know  
that none of the THOUSANDS hold a candle ?
GMCarter - 20 Jun 2006 22:36 GMT
>Le Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:51:39 +0200, GMCarter <fiar@verizon.net> a écrit:
>
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>
>So then why don't you cite just ONE, you dummy ?

Over the years, I've cited MANY studies. From many perspectives and
scientific disciplines. If you're too inept to look them up then my
citing them won't be of much assistance.

        George M. Carter
Hayek - 21 Jun 2006 20:37 GMT
> Le Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:51:39 +0200, GMCarter
> <fiar@verizon.net> a écrit:
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> Because you already know that none of the THOUSANDS
> hold a candle ?

I had this same discussion with a second year med
student. He gave me some 50 references of "hiv-isolation".

So I start reading the abstracts, and it goes like this :

- P24 (reverse transcriptase) found, does not count as
isolation
- P24 found
- no method specified
- p24 found
- no method spec'd
..
..

..

And so for all his references....

And then he replies, "I knew you would reject all 50
of them".

LOL..

It would be like repeating the cold fusion experiment,
 and saying that you could not find any new energy,
but that it had worked nevertheless because you saw
bubbles coming out of the lithium sponge, and that
this has to mean something very pro(o)found.

Uwe Hayek.

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This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
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IDIOCY - Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups.

GMCarter - 22 Jun 2006 12:37 GMT
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>I had this same discussion with a second year med
>student. He gave me some 50 references of "hiv-isolation".

So you claim. And why in the world should we believe you are capable
of discerning whether the evidence is valid or not?

Your criteria based on this post suggest that you simply wave your
hands, sniff and say "gosh, it ain't so."

        George M. Carter
js - 22 Jun 2006 16:13 GMT
> snip
> >I had this same discussion with a second year med
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>
> George M. Carter

But Georgie boy, EVERYBODY knows you'll never be lulled into believing anything else than
what you believe today. Things like:

Hiv=Aids => Death unless ARVs

and

Hiv, the virus that causes Aids.

But, you know, other people visit this board and THEY will eventually start to think it
over.

JS
---
http://www.nightsofarmour.com
GMCarter - 23 Jun 2006 11:24 GMT
>But, you know, other people visit this board and THEY will eventually start to think it
>over.

LOL....I actually doubt that. And most people can recognize a kook
when they see one.

Sadly, some folks may indeed buy your brand of nonsense. And if they
become HIV-infected, they, like too many others, will discover what
AIDS is all about.

So--got any actual new ideas, Jannie? Or just more dithering?

        George M.  Carter
Don Saklad - 21 Jun 2006 17:08 GMT
> Perhaps, Don, you can clue us all in on what in the world you
> are trying to say.  In the meantime, I will continue to ask for
> just ONE scientific study that demonstrates the connection
> between what has been deemed retroviral phenomena

     By the above do you mean to say you believe there is no
     such thing as a retrovirus?

> and a clinical syndrome that contains everything except the
> proverbial kitchen sink,

     With a suppressed immune system, what could go wrong?

     We don't need no stinkin' immune system!

     Or maybe we do, and without one, any number of things,
     including kitchen sink syndrome, can happen.

> or has that been added within the last 24 hour?  I would not be
> at all surprised if it was.

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