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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / March 2006Girl Sticks Classmates With Needle?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/29/national/main692011.shtml you folks remember this from back in april of last year. the girl who stuck her classmates with her mothers diabetes testing needle and one of the kids was hiv positive. My question is, Whatever happened with this? I never heard anything more about it. Did any of the kids catch hiv? It seems like it was all hushed up after it happened. are there any news reports that folowed up on the case? thanks, mike ml34b@hotmail.com wrote... > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/29/national/main692011.shtml > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It seems like it was all hushed up after it happened. > are there any news reports that folowed up on the case? The media dropped it because it is not only not a crime to jab someone with an infected needle, but they are likely to hold a parade to celebrate the seroconversions of the children who were jabbed (now they are members of the diverse HIV community). Actually, it is a crime to deliberately infect someone with HIV, but it is almost never enforced because it would have a disproportionate impact on minorities like homosexuals and blacks. Since it is political suicide to prosecute a gay man who infects others with HIV, it is very inconvenient to create a double standard and prosecute only little girls who use needles to infect others. Most likely the girl went unpunished while those she jabbed with her infected needle were hauled off to re-education camps for involuntary tolerance training after their objections to being jabbed with needles hurt the poor girl's feelings. yeah, but there was no proof that he needle was infected. just that one of the kids was hiv positive or it was possibly a false positive. seems like a rare occasion when the media actually acknowledges that an hiv test could be falsely positive. you would think that some of these parents might have tried to start a law-suit against the mother for letting the kid bring her needle to school. or make some kind of stink about it to the media, but it all seems hush-hush. these parent have got to be pretty damn angry. and what if that one kid really is hiv positive, they must be pissed that they were not informed that their kid was in class with an hiv positive kid. you know, kids play rough together they scratch each other, fight etc. possible blood exchange, right? it's just another crazy thing that parent have to worry about while their kid is in school besides the violence and all that crap. ml34b@hotmail.com wrote... > yeah, but there was no proof that he needle was infected. > just that one of the kids was hiv positive or it was possibly a false [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > it's just another crazy thing that parent have to worry about while > their kid is in school besides the violence and all that crap. Today I read about a guy whose cocaine conviction was upheld after he challenged the search after police caught him pissing in a parking lot. He claimed that peeing in public wasn't against the law and therefore the search was illegal, and the court ruled that the law against creating a public nuisance applied and there was also a law against littering (pee can be considered litter). My point is that he would never have been arrested had it been AIDS. Had he been an AIDS patient barebacking in the same parking lot or had he dumped an entire barrel of live HIV virus in the same parking lot he would never have been arrested or searched or prosecuted. But while gross, peeing is harmless and an essential bodily function, so it is classified as a crime while transmitting HIV is celebrated. snip... >But while gross, peeing is harmless and an essential bodily function, >so it is classified as a crime while transmitting HIV is celebrated. Wow. You are a sad, stupid lil bigot, ain't ya? Actually, unlike MOST infectious diseases, intentionally transmitting HIV is a crime in many states. Syphilis, gonorrhea, TB--nope. Nor should they be....whether someone should be convicted for transmitting HIV is really unclear to me. That is not the black and white issue you would like to make it. But then, conversing with a dolt like you is undoubtedly pointless. George M. Carter GMCarter wrote... > snip... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > But then, conversing with a dolt like you is undoubtedly pointless. Probably. Anyway, in that or another message I mentioned that deliberate HIV transmission is a crime, but the law is unenforced except in a very few high-profile cases. To enforce the law means disproportionately prosecuting gays and blacks (because they have the highest rates of HIV). No prosecutor will touch a case involving gays/blacks and HIV, and it it would be silly to go after a little girl whose young age made her not responsible for her actions while leaving those gay/black adults who are responsible for their actions alone. >> But then, conversing with a dolt like you is undoubtedly pointless. > >Probably. A lot of laws on the books are not well-enforced. More important ones than often poorly written or witch-hunt-like HIV transmission laws, I'm sure. George M. Carter i guess i'm still not understanding the black/white issue what does color or sex preference have to do with it? can't anyone can catch aids? i don't know much about the stuff. i have never met or seen someone with aids. at least as far as i know. why do more blacks have it? is it somehow geneticly more easier for them to catch? ml34b@hotmail.com wrote... > i guess i'm still not understanding the black/white issue > what does color or sex preference have to do with it? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > why do more blacks have it? > is it somehow geneticly more easier for them to catch? All unknown. Official orthodoxy does state that everyone is at equal risk of contracting HIV, but the real-life statistics say otherwise. It is hard enough to get into the mind of your pet dog much less a virus, so there is no way to understand why it prefers blacks and homosexuals to the general population. ----------------------------------------------------- "Orthodoxy means not thinking - not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." -- 1984 ----------------------------------------------------- hi , do you want to earn money in internet? see http://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thantk you gabriel duarte portugal Witch hunt? Sorry, GM, no one has the legal right to kill me through their actions. You can ask first if you can shoot me with a gun, but you would still be charged with a serious crime should you follow through. Every individual who has the misfortune of being infected, also has the power and ability to control who else they will infect. >Witch hunt? Sorry, GM, no one has the legal right to kill me through >their actions. Correct. But no one has the right to arrest you on false pretenses or arising from a poorly written law either, do they? George M. Carter Who has been arrested on false pretenses, George? Rounding up people simply because they carry a virus that is not air-borne would violate my beliefs. However, when people choose to willingly and intentionally infect others with a deadly virus this is equivalent, as I noted, to you asking for my persmission to shoot me with a gun and then not expecting a criminal justice system to respond. Unless your willing to advocate and change the laws to allow for these types of suicide then, there is a contradiction in your position. As for a poorly written law, please state your disagreements. >Who has been arrested on false pretenses, George? Plenty of people, anonymous individual. Try Gitmo as an example. George M. Carter Sorry, could you clarify, I'm finding you cryptic. Do I understand you to mean that the US government is holding HIV positive individuals prisoner without charges, false charges, or something similar? hi george, do you want profit from internet? please clic below https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thanks gabriel duarte > My point is that he would never have been arrested had it been AIDS. > Had he been an AIDS patient barebacking in the same parking lot Hi, Diablo. B/ hi brian, do you want to profit from net? pleaselic below, https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thank you gabriel duarte hi brian, do you want to profit from net? pleaselic below, https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thank you gabriel duarte hi brian, do you want to profit from net? pleaselic below, https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thank you gabriel duarte hi brian, do you want to profit from net? pleaselic below, https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thank you gabriel duarte Geltab, Your homophobia would be better served by addressing the issues of law. Charging one with the intentional transmission of HIV requires that the requirements of law be met -- motive and intent. Other issues such as mens rea are considered where one is an addict. I'm happy to support the conviction of the person you write about if you can meet the legal standard that the person was aware of their actions, and that those actions were intentional. hi friend, do you want to profit from the net? please see https://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview thank you gabriel duarte Nonsense, geltab. The issue with enforcing laws of the intentional transmission of HIV is related to the issue of proving the source of HIV. The secondary issue is the political one. In that, prosecution is feared by some to lead others not to test which would result in higher transmission rates and their avoidance of treatment. Your homophobia and racism is noted. a_f_r_i_e_n_d@hotmail.com wrote... > Nonsense, geltab. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Your homophobia and racism is noted. I had suggested that mandatory testing of the entire population would solve the problem of people avoiding being tested to avoid criminal charges. Also, it is better that they avoid treatment because that means they will die much sooner and not take so many people with them as they do now. And it will save the taxpayers lots of money, too. Oh, and another possible solution that I'm sure you will oppose is to tattoo HIV patients so that potential partners will know of their HIV+ status. It could be a large "AIDS" branded on their foreheads or a small tattoo on their genitals that would be visible only to those who saw them naked (i.e. sex partners). They will have a choice, either submit to the tattoo or live in a high-security quarantine camp. And this idea is rather scifi, but there might be away to insert an identification marker into the viral genome, so that each time the virus replicates the marker is replicated. It would then be possible to prove the source of the new HIV infection, a simple PCR test would quickly identify which known AIDS patient transmitted the virus. But that won't be possible for quite some time, so the simplest solution at present is the genital tattoo. > a_f_r_i_e_n_d@hotmail.com wrote... >> Nonsense, geltab. 3 Diablo socks in one post. Fascinating. B/ Diable socks???? >Diable socks???? LOL I'll take it you are not interested in a discussion on these issue and I won't respond to your posts. >>Diable socks???? > > LOL Always reminds me of those crime shows where the suspect is always saying "I don't know what you're talking about" even though what they've done is SO obvious..... B/ >>>Diable socks???? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >saying "I don't know what you're talking about" even though what they've >done is SO obvious..... Oh, Perry! Della > > a_f_r_i_e_n_d@hotmail.com wrote... > >> Nonsense, geltab. > > 3 Diablo socks in one post. Fascinating. I agree with you 100%. Sarcasm noted. Of course, we could let people infect one another and claim some right to f.ck and kill each other in the process. You don't have a right to kill me even with my permission. Prison is a reasonable response in any other situation where you might try to kill me. The reason you choose to exclude HIV from this is......? If I chose to infect you with Ebola, would you take the same position? Honestly, I didn't know there was a bullet in the chamber when I pointed it at you. I think this would be laughable as a defense. Yet you seem to be prepared in the case of HIV because...? hi, do you want to profit from internet? please see http://www.moreinfo247.com/9163569/overview tank you gabriel duarte
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