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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / January 2006Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005
Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005 Bay Area Reporter http://www.ebar.com/obituaries/ Typical of the week before Christmas, almost nobody dies of anything in San Francisco - thus only a single obit this week. However, after the holidays the die-off usually resumes at an increased rate for a while before leveling off. The one death this week was remarkable due to the fact that obit actually ADMITTED the death had something to do with AIDS "complications"! Merry Christmas! susie ==== Richard L. Welsh January 8, 1956 - December 14, 2005 Richard passed in the early morning of December 14 after a long battle with AIDS complications in the home he shared with his loving partner of 16 years, Mark Welsh, who was at his side along with his two dogs. Richard was raised in Tacoma, Washington by his Granny, Nellie Onufer. Richard met his partner Mark while living in Portland, Oregon in 1990 and moved to San Francisco in 1997. Richard was a part of the Leather Family for over 18 years. Richard leaves behind his two babies (Miniature Schnauzers) Daphney and Missy, his brother Don Fillhart, sister-in-law Kim, two nephews, Nick & Michael of Tacoma, Washington, and his partner Mark Welsh of Rock Hard on Castro Street and his leather family. Memorial contributions may be made in Rich's name to his favorite charities, PAWS or Magnet. A Celebration of Life is being planned for his 50th Birthday on January 8, 2006. The details will be announced soon or you may contact Mark Welsh at 415-378-1856. Rich has touched so many hearts but none more than mine. I will always love and miss you so much and you will always be in my heart. Love, Mark. >Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005 Bay Area Reporter >http://www.ebar.com/obituaries/ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >week. However, after the holidays the die-off usually resumes >at an increased rate for a while before leveling off. Oh, THANK YOU anonymous Susie-Frod, Expert in Epidemiology and all things related to Mortality! >The one death this week was remarkable due to the >fact that obit actually ADMITTED the death had >something to do with AIDS "complications"! > >Merry Christmas! Freddie-Sue--you're just like Death. You revel in people's suffering and death. >>Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005 Bay Area Reporter >>http://www.ebar.com/obituaries/ [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Oh, THANK YOU anonymous Susie-Frod, Expert in Epidemiology and all > things related to Mortality! You welcome, George Mary-Bob. > You revel in people's suffering and death. Nope. Just reporting the facts ... I leave the reveling to you and your PharmaComrades who have conspired to murder hundreds of thousands of fellow Amerikans. susie >Nope. Just reporting the facts ... With your irreverant glee, as ever. >>Nope. Just reporting the facts ... > > With your irreverant glee, as ever. Facts reqire no glee ... however, watching you squirm offers a fresh infusion of glee every time... susie Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005 Bay Area Reporter http://www.ebar.com/obituaries/ Typical of the week before Christmas, almost nobody dies of anything in San Francisco - thus only a single obit this week. However, after the holidays the die-off usually resumes at an increased rate for a while before leveling off. The one death this week was remarkable due to the fact that obit actually ADMITTED the death had something to do with AIDS "complications"! Merry Christmas! susie ==== Richard L. Welsh January 8, 1956 - December 14, 2005 Richard passed in the early morning of December 14 after a long battle with AIDS complications in the home he shared with his loving partner of 16 years, Mark Welsh, who was at his side along with his two dogs. Richard was raised in Tacoma, Washington by his Granny, Nellie Onufer. Richard met his partner Mark while living in Portland, Oregon in 1990 and moved to San Francisco in 1997. Richard was a part of the Leather Family for over 18 years. Richard leaves behind his two babies (Miniature Schnauzers) Daphney and Missy, his brother Don Fillhart, sister-in-law Kim, two nephews, Nick & Michael of Tacoma, Washington, and his partner Mark Welsh of Rock Hard on Castro Street and his leather family. Memorial contributions may be made in Rich's name to his favorite charities, PAWS or Magnet. A Celebration of Life is being planned for his 50th Birthday on January 8, 2006. The details will be announced soon or you may contact Mark Welsh at 415-378-1856. Rich has touched so many hearts but none more than mine. Iwill always love and miss you so much and you will always be in my heart. Love, Mark. ====================== Susie, until gay men decide to wake up from this nightmare, they'll continue to die from "AIDS complications". Until they realize that this is genocide, they'll continue to be good little boys and take their poisons. They'll take their poisons until they die from "AIDS complications". And some of the people who are giddily holding their hands to their respective pharamaceutical Auschwitz's are OTHER GAY MEN. So, it's not just the goons at AIDS, inc., or the pharmaceutical companies who are leading us to the pharmaceutical Dachau's and Auschwitz's. Gay men will continue to lead their fellow homos to their deaths until they wake up from this nightmare, and realize that their "brothers" who are lying in bed with the pharmaceutical companies are helping to kill them. > Antiviral Obituaries, Dec 22, 2005 Bay Area Reporter > http://www.ebar.com/obituaries/ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > are lying in bed with the pharmaceutical companies are helping to kill > them. Wily, so true ... let's take a look-see to uncover the guilty gang of murderers on this newsgroup: gary stein brian mailman bennett george carter et al susie (snip silly screed devoid of any logic) Ok Wilyretrovirus describe for us the definition of "AIDS complications" that you use to arrive at the notion you did in this thread? Gary Stein Gary, do you have the capacity to feel, um, not so wonderfully good about blindly espousing HIV dogma every day? Now, maybe it doesn't feel so bad for you to mislead adults into the HIV/AIDS web of lies and deadly pharmaceuticals. Supposedly, they have the capacity to research and make informed choices about their health. But do you ever think about the children and babies unfortunate enough to be labeled "HIV positive", and getting their livers cooked with AZT and other "happy meal" drugs? Probably not, that would be terribly inconvenient. I'd like to let adults know that there's plenty of information that they haven't been exposed to. But they also supposedly have the free will and the capacity to go looking for themselves, should they choose to do so. Children can't make those decisions for themselves. So, they're getting fried from "AIDS" drugs, for a virus that doesn't exist. How good can that feel to espouse the dogma, knowing children are being maimed and killed by these poisons? I'm sure you boys have your "justifications". Hey, whatever gets you through the day. I honestly cannot even imagine what it's like to be doing what your doing. Seriously, I'm in a sickened "awe" of you guys when you've mentioned the use of AZT on pregnant women and newborns. Wow. Btw, I can see the little "trap" you're trying to set for me. I won't be going down that road with you. Sorry. > Gary, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Btw, I can see the little "trap" you're trying to set for me. I won't be > going down that road with you. Sorry. In other words you don't have a clue about what your reguratating............ Gary Stein ..do you have the capacity to feel, um, not so wonderfully good about blindly espousing HIV dogma every day? But do you ever think about the children and babies unfortunate enough to be labeled "HIV positive", and getting their livers cooked with AZT and other "happy meal" drugs? How good can that feel to espouse the dogma, knowing children are being maimed and killed by these poisons? ========================= Gary, I see you couldn't, or were unable to answer these questions. > ..do you have the capacity to feel, um, not so wonderfully good about > blindly espousing HIV dogma every day? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Gary, > I see you couldn't, or were unable to answer these questions. Ok here you go you have 'NO' evidence that you can provide that shows "children are being maimed and killed by these poisons". On the contrary the evidence shows that the majority of children born to HIV positive mothers who take a specific prenatal course of ARV are born HIV negative. The evidence also shows that ARV does in fact prolong the life of HIV positive children. Gary Stein > ..do you have the capacity to feel, um, not so wonderfully good about > blindly espousing HIV dogma every day? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Gary, > I see you couldn't, or were unable to answer these questions. Ok here you go you have 'NO' evidence that you can provide that shows "children are being maimed and killed by these poisons". On the contrary the evidence shows that the majority of children born to HIV positive mothers who take a specific prenatal course of ARV are born HIV negative. The evidence also shows that ARV does in fact prolong the life of HIV positive children. Gary, thank you. You gave me the answers to my questions. It's obvious that your "data" is what's keeping you from having a conscience. You guys are monsters. Really. >It's obvious that >your "data" is what's keeping you from having a conscience. You guys are >monsters. Really. One could argue that you'd rather let children die of AIDS than be given any treatment that could save their lives. Who is the monster? Maybe Christine Maggiore murdered her own child out of her "christian science-esque" stubbornness? No. Murder is not the right term. However, it is a profound tragedy. And 3 million more people died of AIDS last year. Needlessly. Mostly because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies and their ass-licking suckup monsters in the US government like Bill Frist. George M. Carter >>It's obvious that >>your "data" is what's keeping you from having a conscience. You guys are [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No. Murder is not the right term. However, it is a profound tragedy. Murder no, negilent manslaugther I think a case could be made. Certainly child abuse, Christine and her husband should be requried to provide health care for there suriviving child until such a time as the child is 18 and able to legaly make the decision for them selves. Gary Stein > And 3 million more people died of AIDS last year. Needlessly. Mostly > because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies and their ass-licking > suckup monsters in the US government like Bill Frist. > > George M. Carter >>It's obvious that >>your "data" is what's keeping you from having a conscience. You guys are [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No. Murder is not the right term. However, it is a profound tragedy. Murder no, negilent manslaugther I think a case could be made. Certainly child abuse, Christine and her husband should be requried to provide health care for there suriviving child until such a time as the child is 18 and able to legaly make the decision for them selves. Gary Stein > And 3 million more people died of AIDS last year. Needlessly. Mostly > because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies and their ass-licking > suckup monsters in the US government like Bill Frist. > > George M. Carter ============================= Someday, this grotesque, macabre farce will be over with. You will be seen for the pathetic, lying scheissters that you are. I hope your "mountains of data" and "overwhelming evidence" keep those nasty guilt pangs at bay until then. Giving kids ARV's for a virus that doesn't exist. If that doesn't smack of Dr. Mengele and Nazi Germany, then nothing does. "Christine and her husband should be requried to provide health care for there suriviving child until such a time as the child is 18 and able to legaly make the decision for them selves." Charlie's under the care of three pediatricians. How is that not "providing health care"? Do you mean that this boy that's tested NEGATIVE three times (is that enough for you?) should go on ARV's? I hope you're not advocating THAT. If so, you've most definitely proven yourself to be a monster. I see that you haven't mentioned Robin, who's been having unprotected sex with Christine for years. So it really seems to be about the kids, doesn't it? > "Christine and her husband should be requried to provide health care for > there suriviving child until such a time as the child is 18 and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not advocating THAT. If so, you've most definitely proven yourself to be > a monster. If what you say is true then everything is just fine and no problem exists. However that did not seem to be the case with the poor child that died. The corners report leaves little doubt as to the cause of the child's death and Christine's position regarding HIV treatment certainly shows that she denied that child any chance of receiving such treatment by refusing to let the child be tested for HIV. > I see that you haven't mentioned Robin, who's been having unprotected sex > with Christine for years. So it really seems to be about the kids, > doesn't it? I do not believe in forcing adults to receive medical care that they do not want. So in Robin's case he is fully able to make the decisions about his own medical care and is free to do so. Now by your statement above your implying that Christine is HIV positive and thus presents a risk to Robin. That is not a position either Christine or Robin share as far as I know, doesn't Christine maintain that she is HIV negative? Gary Stein Gary, you're "playing dumb". What you boys really want is to see Christine hang for daring to question your holy paradigm, and having more balls to speak the truth than you boys collectively posess. It's a witchhunt. You don't care whether she's "positive" or "negative" or whatever. All you have is your bloodlust to guide you. >> No. Murder is not the right term. However, it is a profound tragedy. > >Murder no, negilent manslaugther I think a case could be made. Certainly >child abuse, Christine and her husband should be requried to provide health >care for there suriviving child until such a time as the child is 18 and >able to legaly make the decision for them selves. There's a thought. I think the surviving kid does not have HIV? But if s/he does--then what? Hmmmm....I don't really know. The foster care system is SUCH a nightmare. No easy answers. But stupidity and ignorance have caused lots of children to die. Maybe "Parent's School"? (Though actually, requiring parents to provide healthcare is impossible in the United States: what we need here first is a single payer healthcare system--but that's another thread.) George M. Carter "Maybe Christine Maggiore murdered her own child out of her "christian science-esque" stubbornness?" Ouch, George. "Murder" is a bit strong, don't you think? Anyway...guess what? It's time to bring back your sweet, dear friend, Jeanne Bergman. Let's see now. You've never "come clean" about whether Christine Maggiore is HIV-positive or HIV-negative. Yet, at least by implication, you condemn her for Eliza's death. Still, I think you should have the balls to just come out and say whether Christine's positive or negative. Your friend Jeanne Bergman had no trouble at all. Here's some choice words from Jeanne. "Maggiore has built a profitable career by combining a gift for self-promotion with a couple of false-positive HIV test results." "False-negative HIV tests are extremely rare, while false positives are much more common, though infrequent. This fact and all the other available evidence strongly indicate that Maggiore was never infected with HIV, and she herself emphasizes the term "positive" and avoids saying she is infected or has the virus, allowing others to draw that erroneous conclusion." "Most people would be thrilled to learn they were uninfected, but Maggiore was unwilling to give up the spotlight. This HIV pretender twisted her good health and the marginal incidence of false positives into a lucrative new racket—..." And the best one for last... "But of course Maggiore has no "fear of AIDS"—she doesn't have HIV. She has since had two children, now three and seven years old, whom she boasted to Scheff "have never been tested. … They don't take AIDS drugs. And they're not in the least bit sick." But of course Maggiore didn't want them to be tested: she knows that they are not at risk and that their being uninfected would lead people to question her own status. And of course they don't take "AIDS drugs"—they don't have HIV or AIDS." >"Maybe Christine Maggiore murdered her own child out of her "christian >science-esque" stubbornness?" > >Ouch, George. "Murder" is a bit strong, don't you think? Anyway...guess >what? It's time to bring back your sweet, dear friend, Jeanne Bergman. Sure. >Let's see now. You've never "come clean" about whether Christine Maggiore >is HIV-positive or HIV-negative. I don't know if she is or not. Only she knows. And her physician. She probably is--Jeanne wrote the article before Christine's daughter died of AIDS. So the most likely way her daughter became infected was during birth (or in utero). Sex and contaminated needles are less likely vectors of infection. George M. Carter >Let's see now. You've never "come clean" about whether Christine Maggiore >is HIV-positive or HIV-negative. "I don't know if she is or not. Only she knows. And her physician." George, if you're so laissez-faire about Christine's "status", then why are you and your buddies so rabidly going after her in response to EJ's death? What about Robin? Funny how you guys never mention him. It's a witchhunt, driven by bloodlust. >>Let's see now. You've never "come clean" about whether Christine >Maggiore [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >death? What about Robin? Funny how you guys never mention him. It's a >witchhunt, driven by bloodlust. Oh go f.ck yourself. You're a goddamned idiot. And if you're an HIV+ one, you'll probably be dead of AIDS soon. >>Let's see now. You've never "come clean" about whether Christine >Maggiore [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >death? What about Robin? Funny how you guys never mention him. It's a >witchhunt, driven by bloodlust. Oh go f.ck yourself. You're a goddamned idiot. And if you're an HIV+ one, you'll probably be dead of AIDS soon. ======================= Eloquence and compassion. Not only is it glaringly obvious you love your fellow human beings, you're an excellent writer as well. >======================= > >Eloquence and compassion. Not only is it glaringly obvious you love your >fellow human beings, you're an excellent writer as well. Why thank you, anonymous nudnik. "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > And 3 million more people died of AIDS last year. Needlessly. Mostly > because of the greed Wrong, they died of a disease that has no cure. A disease I might add that is due to behavior. Just like someone drinking and driving, killing a family. The fault lies with the drunken driver and his behavior, not the greed of Ford/Mercury. >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> >> And 3 million more people died of AIDS last year. Needlessly. Mostly >> because of the greed > >Wrong, they died of a disease that has no cure. But there are treatments that prevent death from happening too soon and causing economic and humanitarian disasters. But then you're an adherent of Ayn Rand and probably Hitler, judging from the frothing foolishness of your posts. "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But there are treatments that prevent death from happening too soon > and causing economic and humanitarian disasters. The victims cry, my personal behavior put me here, but somebody, anybody ......help me and I don't care what the expense is to you. > The victims cry, my personal behavior put me here, but somebody, > anybody ......help me and I don't care what the expense is to you. But when heterosexuals cry for help due to their lifestyle-diseases, well that's just ducky. See diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc for further information. susie "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message > But when heterosexuals cry for help due to their lifestyle-diseases, > well that's just ducky. See diabetes, what sexual behavior leads to diabetes ? > But then you're an adherent of Ayn Rand and probably Hitler, judging > from the frothing foolishness of your posts. Deathish never heard of Ayn Rand, besides - he's not merely afraid of Jewish girls, he's aftraid of ALL females. Something to do with Deathish's obvious impotence and fixations with scat (which brings it to any newsgroup dealing with gays, butts, etc) susie "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message > obvious impotence and fixations > with scat (which brings it to any newsgroup dealing with > gays, butts, etc) telling on yourself is bad enough but to include all of your other butt-buddies is pure chicken sh.t of ya. > "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > telling on yourself is bad enough but to include all > of your other butt-buddies is pure chicken sh.t of ya. Ah, yes ... hit a raw nerve, eh Deathish?? ;) susie "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > > > > telling on yourself is bad enough but to include all > > of your other butt-buddies is pure chicken sh.t of ya. > > Ah, yes ... hit a raw nerve, eh Deathish?? no a.shole sucker, you ain't hit sh.t, keep licking it will come to ya. > "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > no a.shole sucker, you ain't hit sh.t, Oh no, I think I have hit the g-spot... LOL! susie "Susie pedophile, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > >> > > no a.shole sucker, you ain't hit sh.t, > > Oh no, I think I have hit the g-spot... no a.shole sucker, you ain't hit sh.t, keep licking it will come to ya, pedo > "Susie pedophile, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > no a.shole sucker, you ain't hit sh.t, keep licking > it will come to ya, pedo Yup, that's the g-spot alright. Let's review what Deathy so conviently snipped: Deathish never heard of Ayn Rand, besides - he's not merely afraid of Jewish girls, he's aftraid of ALL females. Something to do with Deathish's obvious impotence and fixations with scat (which brings it to any newsgroup dealing with gays, butts, etc) susie > "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The fault lies with the drunken driver and his behavior, > not the greed of Ford/Mercury. But if Ford didn't make the car and sell it to the drunk the crash wouldn't have happened and the family would be alive, wouldn't it? susie "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message > " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the crash wouldn't have happened and the family would > be alive, wouldn't it? So what you are saying is, if God had not created mankind they would be alive? LOL, idiot. > "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > So what you are saying is, if God had not created > mankind they would be alive? Answer the question, Deathy! susie >"Ok Wilyretrovirus describe for us the definition of "AIDS complications" that you use to arrive at the notion you did in this thread?" OK Mr. Stein, I'll be happy to take a crack at it (Oh boy! What an opportunity!): AIDS complications: Whatever one dies from after: 1. Having tested positive for HIV. OR: 2. Having been treated with anti-retroviral drugs. OR: 3. Having irritated the pharma industry by making disparaging remarks about the HIV/AIDS paradigm, or the medical approach to AIDS. > >"Ok Wilyretrovirus describe for us the definition of "AIDS complications" > that you use to arrive at the notion you did in this thread?" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 3. Having irritated the pharma industry by making disparaging remarks > about the HIV/AIDS paradigm, or the medical approach to AIDS. So unlike Wilyretrovirus who proclaims to follow the scientific method you Claster throw that out the window and provide a rhetorical answer with no evidence to back up your rhetoric. That has been your method since you first arrived here so I shouldn't expect anything better from you but hope springs eternal during the Christmas season. So here's wishing you the wisdom to see that your faith in the non-existence of HIV is fueled by denial and fear and that once you understand that you will reappraise your belief system and approach HIV with a mind open to reality and logic in the New Year. Gary Stein >> >"Ok Wilyretrovirus describe for us the definition of "AIDS >> >complications" [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Claster throw that out the window and provide a rhetorical answer with no > evidence to back up your rhetoric. Rhetoric? What rhetoric? > That has been your method since you first arrived here Strange, Mr. Stein arrived upon this newsgroup with the rhetoric about how he was saved from his "deathbed" by the antiviral cocktails. Looks like Stein et al are still on their collective intellectual deathbed. susie >"So here's wishing you the wisdom to see that your faith in the non-existence of HIV is fueled by denial and fear and that once you understand that you will reappraise your belief system and approach HIV with a mind open to reality and logic in the New Year." Thank you Mr. Stein. I appreciate your good wishes. I must make one correction, though: It's not "my faith in the non-existence of HIV" No, no, that should be: "My lack of faith in the existence of HIV" (has to do with the burden of proof, you see). But anyhow, I too wish you all good things in the coming New Year. |
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