Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / December 2005
Bush ordered NSA to spy on Americans
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Susie, age 9 - 16 Dec 2005 16:07 GMT When entrusted with power, let's see what the Republicans have done with it. Let's get the true flavor of what they're REALLY all about.
All the while Bush claims that the "terrorists" hate Americans because they hate our "freedom" - the same freedom we intend to impose upon Iraq.
And what does Condoleezza Rice have to say?
"I'm not going to comment on intelligence matters,"
Ah, can't you just SMELL the "freedom"???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10488458/
Updated: 7:58 a.m. ET Dec. 16, 2005
Bush authorized NSA to spy on Americans Agency has monitored hundreds within U.S. since 9/11
Agency said to have spied on U.S. residents
Dec. 16: The New York Times is reporting that the National Security Agency eavesdropped on hundreds of people in the U.S. without warrants. NBC's David Gregory reports.
NEW YORK - The National Security Agency has eavesdropped, without warrants, on as many 500 people inside the United States at any given time since 2002, The New York Times reported Friday.
That year, following the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush authorized the NSA to monitor the international phone calls and international e-mails of hundreds - perhaps thousands - of people inside the United States, the Times reported.
Before the program began, the NSA typically limited its domestic surveillance to foreign embassies and missions and obtained court orders for such investigations. Overseas, 5,000 to 7,000 people suspected of terrorist ties are monitored at one time.
The Times said reporters interviewed nearly a dozen current and former administration officials about the program and granted them anonymity because of the classified nature of the program.
Government officials credited the new program with uncovering several terrorist plots, including one by Iyman Faris, an Ohio trucker who pleaded guilty in 2003 to supporting al-Qaida by planning to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge, the report said.
But some NSA officials were so concerned about the legality of the program that they refused to participate, the Times said. Questions about the legality of the program led the administration to temporarily suspend it last year and impose new restrictions.
Rice says Bush acted lawfully
On Friday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked about the program. "I'm not going to comment on intelligence matters," she told NBC's "Today" show. But Rice did say that President Bush "has always said he would do everything he can to protect the American people, but within the law, and with due regard for civil liberties because he takes seriously his responsibility."
"The president acted lawfully in every step that he has taken," Rice said, "to defend the American people and to defend the people within his constitutional responsibility."
Caroline Fredrickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the American Civil Liberties Union, said the group's initial reaction to the NSA disclosure was "shock that the administration has gone so far in violating American civil liberties to the extent where it seems to be a violation of federal law."
Asked about the administration's contention that the eavesdropping has disrupted terrorist attacks, Fredrickson said the ACLU couldn't comment until it sees some evidence. "They've veiled these powers in secrecy so there's no way for Congress or any independent organizations to exercise any oversight."
Is the Pentagon spying on Americans?
NBC report on Pentagon database Earlier this week, the Pentagon said it was reviewing its use of a classified database of information about suspicious people and activity inside the United States after a report by NBC News said the database listed activities of anti-war groups that were not a security threat to Pentagon property or personnel.
Pentagon spokesmen declined to discuss the matter on the record but issued a written statement Wednesday evening that implied - but did not explicitly acknowledge - that some information had been handled improperly.
The Bush administration had briefed congressional leaders about the NSA program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that handles national security issues.
Aides to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte and West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, declined to comment Thursday night.
The Times said it delayed publication of the report for a year because the White House said it could jeopardize continuing investigations and alert would-be terrorists that they might be under scrutiny. The Times said it omitted information from the story that administration officials argued could be useful to terrorists.
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Darth Dilligaf - 16 Dec 2005 21:31 GMT > When entrusted with power, let's see what the Republicans > have done with it. Let's get the true flavor of what [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or > redistributed. Yes how terrible: "Government officials credited the new program with uncovering several terrorist plots, including one by Iyman Faris, an Ohio trucker who pleaded guilty in 2003 to supporting al-Qaida by planning to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge"
Too bad we couldn't have known exactly who's lives were saved by spying on Americans and thwarting the Ohio truckers plan to blow up a bridge, I'm sure they would have something negative to say about it right?
Susie, age 9 - 16 Dec 2005 22:09 GMT >> When entrusted with power, let's see what the Republicans >> have done with it. Let's get the true flavor of what [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] > supporting al-Qaida by planning to destroy the Brooklyn > Bridge" And that dirty bomber too ... don't forget him... but wait:
THEY NEVER CHARGED HIM WITH THAT!
Gee, I guess we just can't believe these terrorist-fighters!
And we all wonder just what really happened with the Ohio trucker's guilty plea .. better yet, shouldn't we be INSISTING that these trials are held in public in EACH AND EVERY CASE?
A guilty plea should NEVER be accepted in these cases for ANY reason: freedom cannot allow that!
susie
James Riske - 17 Dec 2005 01:54 GMT >And that dirty bomber too ... don't forget him... but wait: <snip>
You embarrassed yourself again faggot, crying about it now wont do you any good.
"The anus is so etched onto the minds of homosexuals that even mental illness does not prevent them from focusing on it." -- Erik Holland
Susie, age 9 - 18 Dec 2005 23:37 GMT >>And that dirty bomber too ... don't forget him... but wait: >> > <snip> > > I'm a faggot and I embarrassed myself again Oh, Risky Jim - maybe you need something more to your liking, such as alt.flame.niggers
Best of luck.
susie
RamRod Sword of Baal - 17 Dec 2005 15:57 GMT > When entrusted with power, let's see what the Republicans > have done with it. Let's get the true flavor of what [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or > redistributed. US surveillance on its own citizens, you know it looks like the US is sounding just like the USSR sounded like some years ago............
GMCarter - 17 Dec 2005 22:31 GMT >US surveillance on its own citizens, you know it looks like the US is >sounding just like the USSR sounded like some years ago............ Yes...totalitarianism coporate-style. Big farmers (collective farming was the soviet correlate) squeezing out the individual farmer (peasant), invasion of privacy, imperialism and taking over other countries on flimsy excuses, arresting people and shipping them off to torture-countries (soviet correlate: gulags), a cowed press that spews little more than pabulum and propaganda, outright propaganda being produced both domestically and in Iraq, an opaque leadership that keeps many secrets and stonewalls all discovery, huge graft/corruption and theft and finally, bankrupting ourselves on the military (the Reagan correlate being the threat of that miserable sh.t, Osama bin Laden and his ilk). And a complete abrogation of the principles of capitalism when CEO-highest paid wage-earner : lowest paid wage earner approaches 250 times or more (instead of the max 25X).
And now with ballooning domestic and trade deficits, we face an economic catastrophe of....shall we say "biblical" proportions.
The divergence is that into this unholy mix of psychotic sh.t is injected xtian talibanism, just to spice things up.
Pretty ghastly, altogether.
Thank you, President George Dumbya Bush, Czar Dolt of the Untied States, and his vicious little toad, Dick Cheney--and all their idiot, vicious, selfish, brain dead, far right, goosestepping ilk.
George M. Carter
Susie, age 9 - 18 Dec 2005 23:39 GMT >>US surveillance on its own citizens, you know it looks like the US is >>sounding just like the USSR sounded like some years ago............ [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > States, and his vicious little toad, Dick Cheney--and all their idiot, > vicious, selfish, brain dead, far right, goosestepping ilk. Nice job, George. Love ya!
susie
faM&goD@swed.xxx - 19 Dec 2005 07:21 GMT On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:39:07 -0500,
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> quoted:
>> Thank you, President George Dumbya Bush, Czar Dolt of the Untied >> States, and his vicious little toad, Dick Cheney--and all their idiot, >> vicious, selfish, brain dead, far right, goosestepping ilk. Yeah! Not another US citizen has died on US soil at the hands of terrorist since DUBYA loosed the dogs on international terrorism.
Thank ya, Dubya. Thank ya very much! (in my best "Elvis" voice)
So, little girl, I quote in return; "Go f.ck yourself." -Dick Cheney
Jeff North - 19 Dec 2005 08:30 GMT >| On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:39:07 -0500, >| [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >| Yeah! Not another US citizen has died on US soil at the hands of >| terrorist since DUBYA loosed the dogs on international terrorism. There wouldn't have been the need to "loosed[sic] the dogs on international terrorism" if dubya had been doing his job.
>| Thank ya, Dubya. Thank ya very much! (in my best "Elvis" voice) No billy-girlie-man your not a king of anything.
>| So, little girl, I quote in return; "Go f.ck yourself." -Dick Cheney Translation: if my pee-pee was more than it's 2micorons in size I might be able to have sex with myself. --------------------------------------------------------------- jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply ---------------------------------------------------------------
Death - 19 Dec 2005 08:41 GMT "Jeff North" <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au>
> There wouldn't have been the need to "fan-tan-sies[sic] So, I quote in return; "Go f.ck yourself."
Jeff North - 19 Dec 2005 10:10 GMT >| >| On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:39:07 -0500, >| >| [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >| >| So, I quote in return; "Go f.ck yourself." Billy-girle-man, off your medication again I see. --------------------------------------------------------------- jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply ---------------------------------------------------------------
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