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Riding Bareback : POZ Magazine, June 1997

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Susie, age 9 - 05 Dec 2005 06:23 GMT
For those who wondered where all the unsafe sex
came from after the 1996 introduction of the
protease inhibitor cocktail drugs for HIV ... well
here's a clue.

susie

A timeless, sage quote from the POZ article that follows:

  "Just  writing about skin-to-skin is so exciting that
   I want to take a break right now and j.rk off."

============
POZ June 1997 p64-65

                    Riding Bareback

     Skin-on-skin sex -- been there, done that, want more

                   by Stephen Gendin

A year and a half ago at a conference, I heard a talk by a
really cute positive guy on the fun of unsafe sex with other
positive guys. He was beautiful, the subject was exciting,
and I soon ended up getting f.cked by him without a condom.
When he came inside me, I was in heaven, just overjoyed.

I'd had unsafe sex before, but never intentionally. Those
experiences were guilt-ridden because I worried -- both
during the sex and afterward -- about exposing my partner to
HIV. This was different. Knowing the guy was positive made it
empowering, not guilt-inspiring. I relaxed into my desires
instead of fighting them and felt good doing so. On a purely
physical level, the experience wasn't extraordinary, but
emotionally everything purred so fine.

I'm not the only gay man who's developed a taste for such
contact. Or gone looking for it. A quick search of America
Online member profiles revealed 118 guys into condomless sex,
25 of whom identified as positive and four as negative, with
the rest undisclosing. In fact, as the practice has spread, a
whole slang vocabulary has sprung up to describe it: f.cking
raw. Riding bareback. Skin-to-skin. With such delicious
images, it's easy to stop thinking of it as unsafe sex.

I can't comment on a negative guy's decision to go raw, but
for us positive men, the benefits are obvious. The physical
sensation is much better. The connection feels closer and
more intimate. The sharing of cum on the physical level
heightens the sense of sharing on the emotional and spiritual
planes. Then there's the satisfaction of knowing that
seroconverfing has its advantages. (Or, to use American
Express-speak, "Membership has its privileges." It's a tasty
revenge.

There' even something empowering about the idea of sharing
someone else's HIV. It's like being thrown into jail for life
and then, while serving your time, having the warden threaten
to extend your sentence. The threat has no power because
nothing can make a life sentence any worse. You can laugh at
the threat, even spit in the warden's face. That time I got
f.cked by another positive guy, I felt I didn't have to fear
HIV any longer. I could taunt it, challenge it by taking it
into my body without being further hurt.

I know reinfection is a danger. Tons of positive men
(including me) are walking storehouses of mutant, multidrug
resistant (MDR) virus. It certainly isn't smart to pick up
one of those mean, cross-resistant monsters -- I'm now
"immune" to every antiretroviral on the market. "Regular" HIV
("wildtype" in scientific terms) may not be an automatic
death sentence anymore, but some of those loathsome MDR
babies probably are. Then there's the issue of STDs, some of
which are very nasty. Hepatitis B, for example, can kill a
person with HIV. Even the relatively easy-to-get-rid-of bugs
like gonorrhea can activate HIV, causing viral load to go up,
perhaps permanently. So even positive guys still have a lot
to lose.

But for some of us, that's beside the point, and reinfection
isn't a major worry. It's such a vague concept. And not easy
to measure: How do you know if you've been reinfected anyway?
And who can say that getting f.cked without a condom by a guy
whose virus has gone undetectable isn't less risky than
sucking off someone with a high viral load? No one can say,
because no one knows. (See page 92 for more on just how
little scientists understand about what an undetectable viral
load means.)

This f.cking-raw craze could fade. As positive men understand
resistance better, there may be more reluctance to pick up a
new form of the virus. In the same way that some negative
guys have sex only with each other, positive guys might start
making decisions about risk based on which viral type their
partner has. Proof of "wild type" HIV might be required
before entry. Plus, men who know they have MDR virus might
not find it so easy to ride raw anymore; the fear of passing
on a more virulent strain could shatter barebacking's shining
image.

But if barebacking's hold on my own sexual fantasies is any
indication, it'll take a lot even to tarnish that idea. Just
writing about skin-to-skin is so exciting that I want to take
a break right now and j.rk off. Part of the joy of sex is its
obsessive, all-encompassing irrationality, but condoms have
prevented me from exploring that side. Riding bareback with
other positive men is a less guilt-ridden way to indulge in
that exploration.

I've only gone raw with a positive guy that one time. This
has mostly to do with the fact that I'm in a monogamous
relationship with a negative guy. .If I weren't, I think I'd
actively pursue barebacking as do many of my positive friends
-- and feel OK about it.

It's a tricky situation. Already resistant to all approved
nucleoside analogs and protease inhibitors, I worry little
about being reinfected with a more dangerous virus. I
understand that I do present a threat to most positive guys I
f.ck raw with.

How do I justify pursuing acts with other positive men that
many would describe as callous, even malicious? Am I guilty
of skirting the facts in pursuit of pleasure? Or is the
reinfection science shaky enough that it's not irrational for
positive men to go skin-to-skin? With the risks so hazy and
the benefits so brilliantly clear, no wonder riding bareback
is all the rage. For me, being infected in the first place is
such a doomful event that any act that brings pleasure, even
a risky one, is worth grabbing for. Or so it often feels.
Death - 05 Dec 2005 06:50 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> For those who wondered where all the unsafe sex
> came from after the 1996 introduction of the
> protease inhibitor cocktail drugs for HIV ... well
> here's a clue.

faggots
Susie, age 9 - 05 Dec 2005 16:02 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
> faggots

Death, why does it seem that there is only one word
on your mind at all times?

For you, a lifetime mantra.

And everybody knows why that is ...

susie
Death - 05 Dec 2005 18:01 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Death, why does it seem that there is only one word
> on your mind at all times?

LOL, we both had the same answer only mine was 7k smaller.
Susie, age 9 - 05 Dec 2005 20:07 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>
> LOL, mine was smaller.

Perhaps another reason why you fear homosexuals and your
own homosexuality.

Give up and just try to be a good bottom.

susie
Death - 05 Dec 2005 20:49 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> >> Death, why does it seem that there is only one word
> >> on your mind at all times?
> >>
> > LOL, mine was smaller.

you alter my statement and then present a commentary
based on the forgery, how faggot.

Susie age 9 shows the depths you'll sink to
in order to avoid reality.

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message

LOL, we both had the same answer only mine was 7k smaller.
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 01:44 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> you alter my statement and then present a commentary
> based on the forgery, how faggot.

You've altered my statements and then presented a commentary
based on faggotry, you forger.

> Susie age 9 shows the depths you'll sink to
> in order to avoid reality.

I embrace the reality that you are left muttering
"quack quack quack".

LOL!!!

susie
James Riske - 06 Dec 2005 03:26 GMT
>> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>susie

We have all embraced the reality that you are a liar.

"The anus is so etched onto the minds of homosexuals that even mental illness does not prevent them from focusing on it." -- Erik Holland
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 16:14 GMT
> We have all embraced the reality that you are a liar.

Coming from yet another bigoted internalized homophobe
such as yourself, thanks for the compliment.

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 06:39 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> You've altered my statements and then presented a commentary
> based on faggotry, you forger.

Ok, I'll play, show me.
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 16:16 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
> Ok, I'll play, show me.

When I show you - as I have in the recent past - you don't
play. You are a lying closet case with Racial Anxiety Disorder.

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 16:58 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> When I show you -

LOL

>as I have in the recent past -

LOL

> you don't play. You are a lying closet case

again with the you are a faggot too, LOL

> with Racial Anxiety Disorder.

you haven't shown anything, all you do is run your cocksucker,
but then you are just a faggot
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 17:04 GMT
> you haven't shown anything, all you do is run your cocksucker,
> but then you are just a faggot

Death, since you demand others to follow a high standard of identity
and/or age disclosure, tell us, what is your REAL name?

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 17:43 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> Death, since you demand others to follow a high standard of identity
> and/or age disclosure, tell us, what is your REAL name?

Fred Shaw
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 17:51 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Death, since you demand others to follow a high standard of identity
>> and/or age disclosure, tell us, what is your REAL name?
>>
> Fred Shaw

Prove it.

susie
Mr. Slave - 07 Dec 2005 04:57 GMT
Susie, age 9 wrote...

>>"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> Prove it.

I have never used my real name on the Internet.  Since I was a kid
phreaking my way to BBS systems around the world, it has always
been the custom to use an alias or handle.  There are so many
psycho stalkers out there, I remember one guy in the bipolar group
who would harass group members by looking up their names and
posting their addresses and phone numbers.  Eventually they found
out HIS real name, a disgruntled psycho named Andrew Chmilewsky
who was on some trip about Paxil and how his ex-wife had his
9 vicious rottweilers euthanized.  For awhile he also appended his
wife's name, address, and telephone number as well as his sister's
to the subject line of every post.  Anyway, the point is that you
must NEVER use your real name on the Internet.  The following is
an example of one of his posts, now consider whether you want him
to know your name and address:

--------------------------------------------------------------------

TERMINATE PAXIL JUNKIES!

for the sake of the Children if not the rest of humanity.
Children and also tortured, abused and killed dogs know what a depraved
Paxilated Paxil pervert (redundant) can do.
If any live, they live with the mental scars of this forever.

Prozakians are evil, they are THE BORG, they mutilate their
Children with unnecessary "medical care", slutiness, spreading deseases as
well.
SHOOT THEM DOWN!
Cremate the remnants. Wipe these Martians off the face of the planet.

I have seen better heroin mothers then the rabid, crazed
sh.t that eats Paxil running around, whoring, abusing Children, gambling,
dancing wildly in hotel rooms with strange screwed up men and other forms of
abnormal,
indecent behaviour. Oblivious to career damage, education... all for their
pathological desire for a good f.cking and to Paxilate their brains out.

TERMINATE!
After awhile, they are no longer hu-man...
Their brains are Paxilated.
GMCarter - 07 Dec 2005 12:09 GMT
>I have never used my real name on the Internet.  Since I was a kid
>phreaking my way to BBS systems around the world, it has always
>been the custom to use an alias or handle.  There are so many
>psycho stalkers out there, ...

In short, then, you are a coward, afraid of shadows and possibilities.
Susie, age 9 - 07 Dec 2005 18:01 GMT
>>I have never used my real name on the Internet.  Since I was a kid
>>phreaking my way to BBS systems around the world, it has always
>>been the custom to use an alias or handle.  There are so many
>>psycho stalkers out there, ...
>
> In short, then, you are a coward, afraid of shadows and possibilities.

No, he is brilliant, brave and recognizes the virtue of
excluding psychos, neurotics and megalomaniacal
exhibitionists from his existence, such as yourself,
George Mary Carter.

susie
GMCarter - 07 Dec 2005 18:08 GMT
>>>I have never used my real name on the Internet.  Since I was a kid
>>>phreaking my way to BBS systems around the world, it has always
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>exhibitionists from his existence, such as yourself,
>George Mary Carter.

Dearest frodlet of your own worst enemy....you are speaking to
yourself. You used to have a modicum of courage.
Susie, age 9 - 07 Dec 2005 18:35 GMT
>>>>I have never used my real name on the Internet.  Since I was a kid
>>>>phreaking my way to BBS systems around the world, it has always
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Dearest frodlet of your own worst enemy....you are speaking to
> yourself. You used to have a modicum of courage.

And George Mary, you speaketh in tongues, uncourageous
in conviction, a much older twinkster and far less wiser that the
complete idiot you once were.

susie
 
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