Iconoclaster:
That's no claim, Mr. Stein.  YOU make the claim, I supply the denial.
But I must congratulate you: YOU are hereby put in a position where you
can  shut me up forever.  Just send me a sample of HIV, and I'll do the
identification and characterization myself.

Me:
Where? What with?
Go ahead Claster. Order some HIV.
What lab are you going to your analysis in? Your kitchen?
You have made the claim that you have the facilities to identify and
characterise retroviruses. Provide some evidence for your claim. Order
some HIV. No excuses!

Iconoclaster:
Get real, Mr. Noble.  Do you really think I would have to use my
kitchen?  No, I'd simply use a virus lab at my Alma mater, the Univ. of
Leiden.  Several people who work there were younger students when I was
there. They'd be glad to let me use their facilities as an alumnus.

Me:
You are still bluffing. Will you provide names?

Iconoclaster:
No, I'm not bluffing.  I'm thinking of biochemists who are younger than
I  am, and are still working at the U. of Leiden.  people like Barend
kraal,  Cees Pleij, John Bol.

Me:
So If I were to email these people and tell them that you claim that
you can identify and characterise retroviruses using their labs what
would they say?

Iconclaster:
I don't know.  I haven't asked them yet.  But maybe you could e-mail
them.  Go right ahead.
Try Dr. John Bol, he knows me. email will be fine, I guess.

Email from Prof Bol:
Dear Mr. Noble,
A person named Wilhelm Godschalk obtained a Ph.D. degree at Leiden
University in 1964. His Ph.D. research was on a plant virus (turnip
yellow  mosaic virus). To my knowledge, he has not been active in
virology  since  that time and there have been no formal interactions
between Dr.  Godschalk  and Leiden University after he completed his
Ph.D. research.
With kind regards,
John F. Bol

Iconoclaster:
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