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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / November 2005find a cure, save the birds, not faggots
50 birds died at UK bird flu centre 15 November 2005 More than 50 birds died at a UK (quarantine centre) hit by an outbreak of avian flu, a new report revealed. A consignment of Taiwanese mesia birds was the most likely source of the outbreak, the study found. An investigation was launched last month after samples from dead birds from the Essex facility tested positive for the H5N1 strain. The positive result came from a pool of tissue samples taken from a blue headed parrot from Surinam, South America, and a mesia from Taiwan. A report by the National Emergency Epidemiology Group, published by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, said that because the sample was pooled, it had not been possible to say whether the virus came from the parrot or the mesia. But it went on to say that "on the balance of probabilities", the infection was introduced to the facility by a consignment of mesias. The infection was transmitting between mesias, but from the available evidence it did not appear to have been passed on to other species held at the facility. Some 53 of the 101 Taiwanese birds died, though the report was unable to say how many were killed by the flu. The virus detected is most closely associated with Chinese ducks. go get therapy! thats the only thing i can say! just for you ,death .homosexuality (acts)will never go away, it is part of human life! gay or straight you can throw every theory you want! but homosexuality exist. stop complaining and get a life. > go get therapy! thats the only thing i can say! > > just for you ,death .homosexuality (acts)will never go away, it is part >of human life! gay or straight If faggot acts were part "of human life! gay or straight" then everyone would be a faggot you moron. Stay stupid -- "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."--Edmund Burke you both are full of sh.t. but everybody knows that on this forum . >you both are full of sh.t. >but everybody knows that on this forum . And yet mysteriously not a one of you have been able to refute the facts. -- "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."--Edmund Burke >And yet mysteriously not a one of you have been able to refute the >facts. what in the WORLD are you dithering about now, Diablo? Another one of your "pick-and-choose and wildly misinterpret" posts you try to pass off as "facts"? >>And yet mysteriously not a one of you have been able to refute the >>facts. > >what in the WORLD are you dithering about now, Diablo? If you think I am also posting as "Diablo" then certainly you can provide evidence to prove this right? >Another one of your "pick-and-choose and wildly misinterpret" posts >you try to pass off as "facts"? Post proof that I "wildly misinterpret" anything idiot. -- "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."--Edmund Burke "James Riske" <james_riske@h0tmail.com> wrote in message > If you think I am also posting as "Diablo" then certainly you can > provide evidence to prove this right? The mailman Carter being the faggot it is, will not produce anything. It lives in a make believe world, where it is a woman and its butt is a pussy. "tsip29" <nnormen@hotmail.com> wrote in message > you can throw every theory you want! but homosexuality exist. Yes it does, aids proves that. The British Medical Journal recently featured an editorial on the bird flu in which they state the following: The lack of sustained human-to-human transmission suggests that this AH5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic. Theoretical Speculation While they do go on to say the virus could mutate with a influenza A virus and has the potential to acquire the means for rapid human to human transmission, it does not have this ability now; the preparation and warnings are entirely about a theoretical speculation. No Lawsuits or Compensation Allowed Meanwhile, the Bush administration's proposed $7.1-billion pandemic flu plan seeks broad restrictions on lawsuits against producers of vaccines and antiviral drugs, and makes no mention of how those injured or killed by adverse reactions could be compensated. Yesterday's Wired magazine does an excellent review of detailing why this plan will fail. They conclude: "...it will take at least five years to create enough manufacturing capacity to reach that goal. Then it will take another eight months to create a new vaccine that combats the specific strain that would be killing people. In other words, it would be 2011 at the earliest before every American could be vaccinated against a bird flu pandemic." The other, even more serious shortcoming of the plan is that it would protect vacine producers and distributors except in cases of "willful misconduct," a term to be defined later. Lawsuits Not An Undue Burden Bush has called "the growing burden of litigation" one of the greatest obstacles to vaccine production. But critics have pointed out that lawsuits against vaccines are relatively rare; a recent study of the subject found only ten lawsuits related to flu vaccine over the past 20 years. British Medical Journal October 29, 2005 "tsip29" <nnormen@hotmail.com> wrote in message > The British Medical Journal recently featured an editorial on the bird flu > in which they state the following: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and has the potential to acquire the means for rapid human to human > transmission, it does not have this ability now; From Patricia Doyle, PhD dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com 11-15-5 TAIPEI (Reuters) -- Taiwan found a highly pathogenic strain of avian flu, H7N3, in droppings left by a migratory bird and is carrying out tests to see whether the virus has spread to nearby poultry farms, the agriculture department said on Monday [14 Nov 2005]. Like the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu, which has killed more than 60 people around Asia, the H7N3 strain can infect humans, said an official at the Council of Agriculture. "We are most concerned about the H5 and H7, as these 2 can infect people and fowl," said Huang Kwo-ching, director of the animal health inspection division at the Council of Agriculture. "We are now carrying out testing at poultry farms within a 3 km (1.9 mile) radius of the area." The single sample of H7N3 was found in marsh land in the southern city of Tainan, the Council of Agriculture said in a statement, adding that no dead birds were found in the area. It was the 2nd time the strain has been detected in Taiwan. The 1st case of H7N3 was discovered in the outskirts of Taipei in April 2005, said the official. H7N3, which can potentially be transmitted to humans, was 1st detected in turkeys in Britain in 1963 and made one of its last known appearances in poultry in Canada in April and May 2004, according to the World Health Organization and World Organization for Animal Health. According to the WHO, H5 and H7 viruses are the only avian influenza subtypes that are implicated in outbreaks of highly pathogenic disease. The WHO recommends aggressive control measures, including culling of infected and exposed poultry, for these 2 subtypes even when the virus initially shows low pathogenicity. Taiwan has not experienced a major outbreak of H5N1. Last month [October 2005], the island found only its 2nd case of the deadly strain since 2003 in birds smuggled in a container ship from China. An outbreak of the [low pathogenic] H5N2 strain of bird flu in Taiwan in 2004 led to the culling of hundreds of thousands of fowl. Patricia A. Doyle, PhD Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board. The British Medical Journal recently featured an editorial on the bird flu in which they state the following: The lack of sustained human-to-human transmission suggests that this AH5N1 avian virus does not currently have the capacity to cause a human pandemic. Theoretical Speculation While they do go on to say the virus could mutate with a influenza A virus and has the potential to acquire the means for rapid human to human transmission, it does not have this ability now; the preparation and warnings are entirely about a theoretical speculation. No Lawsuits or Compensation Allowed Meanwhile, the Bush administration's proposed $7.1-billion pandemic flu plan seeks broad restrictions on lawsuits against producers of vaccines and antiviral drugs, and makes no mention of how those injured or killed by adverse reactions could be compensated. Yesterday's Wired magazine does an excellent review of detailing why this plan will fail. They conclude: "...it will take at least five years to create enough manufacturing capacity to reach that goal. Then it will take another eight months to create a new vaccine that combats the specific strain that would be killing people. In other words, it would be 2011 at the earliest before every American could be vaccinated against a bird flu pandemic." The other, even more serious shortcoming of the plan is that it would protect vacine producers and distributors except in cases of "willful misconduct," a term to be defined later. Lawsuits Not An Undue Burden Bush has called "the growing burden of litigation" one of the greatest obstacles to vaccine production. But critics have pointed out that lawsuits against vaccines are relatively rare; a recent study of the subject found only ten lawsuits related to flu vaccine over the past 20 years. British Medical Journal October 29, 2005 "tsip29" <nnormen@hotmail.com> wrote in message > The British Medical Journal recently featured an editorial ... Mark Honigsbaum Thursday May 26, 2005 The Guardian A leading scientist warned yesterday that the avian flu virus is on the point of mutating into a pandemic disease and says that current estimates that such a pandemic could cause 7.5m deaths may understate the threat. His warnings come as experts writing in today's edition of Nature voice concerns about the world's inability to manufacture sufficient vaccines for a pandemic and warn of the impact that the virus - H5N1 - could have on the global economy. In an accompanying editorial Nature argues that so far such warnings have "fallen on deaf ears". It backs a call by Prof Osterhaus and his colleagues at the Erasmus Medical Centre, in Rotterdam - one of the world's leading virus research labs - for a global taskforce to strengthen agencies on the ground. There have been 90 human infections in south-east Asia , from which 54 people have died. But while culling and the vaccination of poultry appears to have slowed outbreaks in Thailand and other parts of south-east Asia, this year Vietnam has seen a worrying number of human infections in the same family groups. According to Prof Osterhaus such clustering could mean the virus is becoming more efficient at infecting humans - a precondition for a pandemic. Another concern are reports which emerged from China last weekend that H5N1 was responsible for the deaths of 178 migratory geese at a wildfowl reserve in the western province of Qinghai earlier this month. Prof Osterhaus says the geese's deaths could be another indication that the virus is mutating and becoming more virulent. The problem is that countries such as China and Vietnam are not providing animal and human health officials with enough data, leaving scientists in the dark. According to the WHO, within a few months of the pandemic 30 million people would need to be hospitalised, and a quarter could be expected to die. In his Nature commentary, Prof Osterhaus describes current estimates that a pandemic could infect 20% of the world's population and cause 7.5m deaths as "among the more optimistic predictions of how the next pandemic might unfold". Such pandemic viruses emerge every 30 years or so. The most virulent was the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, which is believed to have claimed 40 million lives worldwide. By contrast the 1957 Asian flu pandemic and 1968 Hong Kong flu claimed less than one million lives each. Prof Osterhaus wants the WHO, the UN Food and Agricultural Organisation and the World Organisation for Animal Health to set up global teams of vets, medics, virologists and agriculturalists to respond rapidly to outbreaks. His comments are backed by the other experts in Nature, who also criticise the WHO and international efforts to develop vaccines against H5N1 and other strains of avian influenza. According to Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota, antiquated vaccine manufacturing systems mean that countries like the US are unable to protect their populations against annual flu strains, let alone pandemic ones. |
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