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Proof of the Non-Existence of HIV - Barebacking in Straight Porn

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pauleewhiting - 02 Nov 2005 18:38 GMT
Okay, folks, here it is: The Proof that HIV does NOT exist.

The reason "HIV" can't exist is because of all the barebacking that's
going on in straight porn.

Ya see, back in the day, when "HIV" was spreading like wildfire through
the gay porn industry, the use of condoms in gay porn became The Rule,
not The Exception.

Yet, that has NEVER happened in the straight porn industry.

If, "HIV" were real, the straight porn industry would have BEEN FORCED
to start using condoms for BOTH vaginal AND anal sex, since these are
the TWO MAIN ROUTES of transmission for "HIV."

Otherwise, all the people in Africa couldn't be dying of "AIDS," since
they're NOT ALL engaging in *anal sex.*

And, otherwise, all the gay men of the world couldn't be dying of
"AIDS," since they're NOT ALL engaging in *vaginal sex.*

But in the straight porn industry, where the models are engaging in
*both vaginal AND anal sex,* the use of condoms is The Exception, not
The Rule.

Thus we have three simple mathematical equations to prove the
non-existence of HIV:

"The HIV Epidemic" = Unprotected Vaginal Sex in Africa;

AND

"The HIV Epidemic" = Unprotected Anal Sex in The Rest of the World;

BUT

"The HIV Epidemic" does NOT = Unprotected Vaginal *and* Anal Sex in the
Straight Porn Industry.

So, basically, the "HIV=AIDS" equation collapses, because there is an
EXCEPTION to The Rule.

And "Poof!" HIV doesn't exist.

-Paul Whiting
DavidT - 02 Nov 2005 19:19 GMT
You forget that in the porn industry, repeated negative HIV test
results are obligatory in order to work.

If 2 psexual partners (or 3, or 6) don't have HIV, they can do whatever
they like and no-one will become infected.
montygram - 02 Nov 2005 22:29 GMT
>From my review of all the evidence, not just the nonsense that passes
for scientific evidence among the "establishment," it appears that
receptive anal sex is the immunosuppressive element.  You also need to
be exposed to all the "bugs:" CMV, DBV, various Herpes, yeast/fungal
infections, etc.  Using poppers, etc., probably has a role to play as
well, especially in some of the 30 odd "diseases" that get grouped
under the "AIDS" banners (at least in some countries).  See my post
warning about receptive anal sex for more details.
Gary Stein - 02 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT
> >From my review of all the evidence, not just the nonsense that passes
> for scientific evidence among the "establishment," it appears that
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> under the "AIDS" banners (at least in some countries).  See my post
> warning about receptive anal sex for more details.

You meant to say "from my review of the dissident websites" didn't you? Hope
that helps.

Gary Stein
montygram - 03 Nov 2005 08:18 GMT
Nope reviewed it all, though it's true that the "evidence" the
establishment puts forth is laughable.  AND I'm willing to put my a.s
on the line (so to speak), just as Duesberg was challenged to do.  You
get your "molecular clones" of "HIV" and I'll take it on a regular
basis.  You just pay me the cost of the "drug cocktail," even though I
won't take it.  Why?  Because someone has got to pay for this crime,
even if it's a token amount.  Put your money where your mouth is.  If I
drop dead of "AIDS" within the next 20 years, you can have all my
assets.  

I am waiting...
Gary Stein - 02 Nov 2005 22:52 GMT
"It has always amazed me that dissidents cite the porn industry as
"proof" that HIV does not cause AIDS.

In fact it is very good evidence that HIV and not copious amounts of
semen or recreational drugs does cause AIDS.

The simple protocol of insisting that all performers/actors take
regular HIV tests and that any person who tests positive is banned
immediately keeps the incidence of HIV to a minimum. These actors can
have sex with each other as mnay times as they want or are paid to and
as long as none of them are infected with HIV then no transmission will
occur. They will of course expose each other to lots and lots of
"oxidising agents" and "foreign proteins" that dissident claim cause
AIDS. But they don't get AIDS.

I would also say that on average porn actors also take more
recreational drugs than the general population. Other dissidents claim
that it is the recreational drugs that cause AIDS.

From a dissident perspective porn actors should be dropping dead from
AIDS. They aren't.

Chris Noble"

> Okay, folks, here it is: The Proof that HIV does NOT exist.
>
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> Sent via Health Newsgroups
> http://www.healthnewsgroups.com 
DavidT - 03 Nov 2005 19:14 GMT
Careful Gary - or you might end up convincing someone like montygram
with the stunning simplicity of your logic...  :)
pauleewhiting - 04 Nov 2005 20:44 GMT
>Careful Gary - or you might end up convincing someone like montygram
>with the stunning simplicity of your logic...  :)

The Proof is in The Porno, Gentlemen...

If CONDOMS had to be dumped on the African Continent in order to prevent
the transmission of "HIV" through vaginal sex and if CONDOMS had to be
required in the gay porn industry in order to prevent the anal
transmission of "HIV," then the straight porn industry should have had
to mandate the use of condoms for BOTH vaginal AND anal sex by now...

Think about that!

You LIED about this microbe being the cause of "AIDS" and the proof in
the porno, baby!

Did you FORGET about the WINDOW PERIOD, before "HIV" antibodies can be
detected, during which time the "infected" individual can STILL pass
?HIV,? albeit unknowingly?

And that, boys and girls, is why AID$, Inc. created the slogan, "Knowing
is Beautiful."

And if it were simply a matter of "HIV" testing, then the gay porn
industry would have NEVER started using condoms!  Yet, you CANNOT SEE
mainstream gay porno these days WITHOUT the "Ring of Power" (the
unrolled bottom of a condom) being clearly visible.

And, yet, in straight porn, the Ring of Power rarely, IF EVER, appears,
because the straight porn industry KNOWS there is nothing to fear...

You LIED ABOUT THIS VIRUS and a high school student could try this case
of medical fraud and win it!

They would simply have to compare condom use between the straight and
gay porn industries after the "discovery of HIV" and run a statistical
analysis showing the LOW USE of condoms in straight porn in relation to
the LOW "HIV" infection rates and the HIGH USE of condoms in gay porn in
relation to the HIGH "HIV" infection rates.

Then, it's simply a matter of showing the jury those darned test kit
disclaimers and explaining how the ?HIV? antibody tests are
"interpreted" based on "risk groups," which is WHY straight porn stars
don't get "HIV."

We're coming after you...

Hire a good lawyer.

-Paul Whiting
drpsduke@yahoo.com - 04 Nov 2005 21:19 GMT
> The Proof is in The Porno, Gentlemen...
>
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> Sent via Health Newsgroups
> http://www.healthnewsgroups.com

http://www.boingboing.net/2004/04/22/porn_star_privacy_an.html

http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0418,taormino,53111,24.html

"...
Although the industry's self-imposed rule is to test every 30 days,
about three weeks later James got another test (insiders say that he
was conscientious, and often re-tested before his test had "expired").
On April 13, Sharon Mitchell, director of AIM, notified James that he
had tested positive. Within 72 hours, Mitchell had compiled a primary
list of performers who had worked with James since March 17, and a
secondary list of performers who had worked with people on the primary
list. These performers-53 in all-have voluntarily quarantined
themselves until they can be re-tested. On April 15, one of the women
James had worked with, Lara Roxx, tested positive.

This HIV outbreak has nearly halted porn production in the San Fernando
Valley, and performers have expressed a range of reactions from shock
and finger-pointing to fear and sadness. But this devastating turn of
events illustrates an important point: AIM's system works.
..."
Gary Stein - 04 Nov 2005 21:50 GMT
Now do you understand Paul????????????/

Gary Stein

>> The Proof is in The Porno, Gentlemen...
>>
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> events illustrates an important point: AIM's system works.
> ..."
pauleewhiting - 07 Nov 2005 19:16 GMT
"Anonymous User" wrote:
>This HIV outbreak has nearly halted porn production in the San Fernando
>Valley, and performers have expressed a range of reactions from shock
>and finger-pointing to fear and sadness. But this devastating turn of
>events illustrates an important point: AIM's system works.
>...."

Three questions:

1) Why didn't this "HIV outbreak" happen twenty years ago in the
straight porn industry when pre-condom stars like Peter North were
playing switch hitter?

2) Why is this incident the ***only*** "HIV outbreak" we've EVER HEARD
OF from Straight Porn Land after twenty f.cking years (or should that be
"twenty years OF f.cking" )?

3) And why wasn't the "AIM system" sufficient to keep all those gay porn
stars from having to use CONDOMS, due to the "window period" before any
"HIV antibodies" are detectable?

I'm afraid that the Proof is *Still* in The Porno, Boys...

-Paul Whiting
drpsduke@yahoo.com - 07 Nov 2005 23:25 GMT
> "Anonymous User" wrote:
> >This HIV outbreak has nearly halted porn production in the San Fernando
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> straight porn industry when pre-condom stars like Peter North were
> playing switch hitter?

Because this outbreak happened when it happened.  OTHER outbreaks in
the hetero porn industry happened earlier.

> 2) Why is this incident the ***only*** "HIV outbreak" we've EVER HEARD
> OF from Straight Porn Land after twenty f.cking years (or should that be
> "twenty years OF f.cking" )?

Because you've had your head burried in the sand with the other
denialists, perhaps?
Many porn stars have died of AIDS over the past 20 years, they just
don't advertise it much.

> 3) And why wasn't the "AIM system" sufficient to keep all those gay porn
> stars from having to use CONDOMS, due to the "window period" before any
> "HIV antibodies" are detectable?

Rules about condom use are made by humans, not by the virus.
No "system" can be 100% safe, and neither is condom use.  Using condoms
can greatly reduse the chances of infection, but never to ZERO.
Iconoclaster - 07 Nov 2005 23:57 GMT
>"Many porn stars have died of AIDS over the past 20 years, they just don't
advertise it much."

Oh, they do, Mr. drpsgek.  When John Holmes dies, the papers just reported
that.  But a short time later, the HIV-goons jumped on the story, isisting
that he had died of AIDS.
Iconoclaster - 08 Nov 2005 00:02 GMT
>"Rules about condom use are made by humans, not by the virus."

That's because viruses don't make money off selling condoms.

>"Using condoms can greatly reduse the chances of infection, but never to
ZERO."

That's right, ask Cardinal Lopez Trujillo.  Actually, condoms are at their
best reducing the chances of babies.  (and, of course, killing your
libido).
pauleewhiting - 08 Nov 2005 18:12 GMT
>>"Rules about condom use are made by humans, not by the virus."
>
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>best reducing the chances of babies.  (and, of course, killing your
>libido).

Iconoclaster,

Who the hell is Cardinal Lopez Trujillo?

-Paul Whiting
Death - 08 Nov 2005 19:42 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Who the hell is Cardinal Lopez Trujillo?

Doesn't he play outfield? Who's on first?
Iconoclaster - 09 Nov 2005 01:12 GMT
>"Who the hell is Cardinal Lopez Trujillo?"

He's an R.C. Cardinal from Argentina (I believe) who pointed out that the
holes in a condom are much bigger than the size attributed to "HIV".  And
it turns out that Monseigneur Lopez is right about that.

That was the first time I ever agreed on anything with a prince of the
Roman Catholic Church.  We both conclude that condoms are useless (albeit
for different reasons).
pauleewhiting - 08 Nov 2005 17:27 GMT
"Anonymous User" wrote:
>Rules about condom use are made by humans, not by the virus.
>No "system" can be 100% safe, and neither is condom use.  Using condoms
>can greatly reduse the chances of infection, but never to ZERO.

So, Anonymous, do you RECOMMEND the use of condoms for 1) Africans, 2)
gays AND 3) straight porn stars, or just the first two...?

Because I am VERY CONCERNED about the BLATENT DISREGARD for the safety
of straight porn models due to the LACK OF CONDOMS in straight porn.

Wouldn't YOU agree, Anonymous?

Don't YOU THINK that, just like Africans and homosexuals, that straight
porn models SHOULD BE USING CONDOMS FOR BOTH VAGINAL AND ANAL SEX AT ALL
TIMES?

After all, "HIV STOPS WITH ME..."

-Paul Whiting
Iconoclaster - 25 Nov 2005 23:08 GMT
>"Don't YOU THINK that, just like Africans and homosexuals, that straight
porn models SHOULD BE USING CONDOMS FOR BOTH VAGINAL AND ANAL SEX AT ALL
TIMES?"

Now don't be cruel, Paul.  Have pity on an old man. Condoms turn me off.
They should be outlawed.
Death - 26 Nov 2005 06:37 GMT
"Iconoclaster" <wgods@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
> >"Don't YOU THINK that, just like Africans and homosexuals, that straight
> porn models SHOULD BE USING CONDOMS FOR BOTH VAGINAL AND ANAL SEX AT ALL
> TIMES?"
>
> Now don't be cruel, Paul.  Have pity on an old man. Condoms turn me off.
> They should be outlawed.

TERRA.WIRE

Number of homosexuals infected with HIV more than doubles in Norway

OSLO (AFP) Jan 16, 2005

The number of homosexuals annually infected with HIV in Norway more than doubled in the past
two years, a Norwegian public health official told daily Dagsavisen in an interview published
on Sunday.
After a decade of registering about 30 new HIV cases among homosexuals each year, the Norwegian
Institute of Public Health in 2003 listed 57 gays who had been infected, and preliminary
numbers for 2004 show 61 new cases.

"The real number is probably much higher," Institute counselor Oeivind Nilsen told Dagsavisen,
adding that he would not be surprised if there were more than 70 cases of new HIV infection
among homosexuals last year.

"The reasons for the increase in HIV (infections) are many, but one of the most worrying
reasons is that gays expose themselves to a risk of infection by having unsafe sex," Nilsen
said.

The rise was especially sharp in Oslo, where at least eight homosexuals were infected by the
same man last year, according to Dagsavisen.

Norway, with a population of about 4.5 million, saw the total number of people infected with
HIV last year jump to more than 250 up from 238 in 2003, the paper reported.
Susie, age 9 - 26 Nov 2005 22:12 GMT
> "Iconoclaster" <wgods@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
>> >"Don't YOU THINK that, just like Africans and homosexuals, that straight
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> HIV last year jump to more than 250 up from 238 in 2003, the paper
> reported.

Let's see... A pandemic virus that is supposed to be sexually contagious
takes 25+ years to
"infect" 250 people from a population of 4.5 million?

I don't think so.

I think death has helped iconoclaster make the point that any 9-year-old
could comprehend.

susie
Death - 27 Nov 2005 01:11 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> Let's see... A pandemic virus that is supposed to be sexually contagious
> takes 25+ years to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I think death has helped iconoclaster make the point that any 9-year-old
> could comprehend.

That just goes to show you that with a small faggot population
in 25 years only 250 are infected.

Then look at New York, a city with a population of many millions
more people. A pandemic for that small country, you bet.
Iconoclaster - 29 Nov 2005 00:50 GMT
>"Then look at New York, a city with a population of many millions more
people. A pandemic for that small country, you bet."

Maybe the Norwegian government is less corrupt.
Anyhow, I always liked gay men.  They never competed  with me when I was
hunting for females.
Death - 29 Nov 2005 01:16 GMT
"Iconoclaster" wrote in message

>Death wrote in message

> >"Then look at New York, a city with a population of many millions more
> people. A pandemic for that small country, you bet."
>
> Maybe the Norwegian government is less corrupt.

Behavior plays a greater roll in the spread of hiv
than a corrupt mayor of a city on the unions dole.

> Anyhow, I always liked gay men.

> They never competed  with me when I was
> hunting for females.

Hey, kewl. That's a better dig than :
and they're good waiters too, but I never tip em.
Susie, age 9 - 01 Dec 2005 16:59 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
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> That just goes to show you that with a small faggot population
> in 25 years only 250 are infected.

Let's use your population statistic of 2% homosexuals for the 4.5 million
population = 90,000 homosexuals in Norway - and only 250 are infected
by a infectious "pandemic virus" that is spread through sexual contact.

Now Death, isn't the "pandemic" claim even a little absurd here - especially
for someone like yourself who claims that gay men are a bunch of
out-of-control sex maniacs that you have referred to as "filthy animals"???

Given the VERY low infection rate, how "filthy" could they possibly be?

susie
DavidT - 01 Dec 2005 17:15 GMT
The admittedly very low annual infection rate in Norway still amounts
to quite a bit over a lifetime of sexual activity. EG over 25 yrs of
sex, 6250 will be infected if the rate does not rise further
(equivalent to 7% of the gay population)
Susie, age 9 - 01 Dec 2005 19:08 GMT
> The admittedly very low annual infection rate in Norway still amounts
> to quite a bit over a lifetime of sexual activity. EG over 25 yrs of
> sex, 6250 will be infected if the rate does not rise further
> (equivalent to 7% of the gay population)

Oh come on!

250 infected out of 4.5 million during a 25-year "pandemic"
is not merely a lifetime - it spans more than one generation!

250 HIV-infected out of 90,000 homosexuals in Norway is NOT 7% ...

Any nine-year-old knows better than that!

susie
Death - 01 Dec 2005 20:36 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> Oh come on!
>
> 250 infected out of 4.5 million during a 25-year "pandemic"
> is not merely a lifetime - it spans more than one generation!

Really? Two questions.
Where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?
How long do you think a generation is?
Susie, age 9 - 02 Dec 2005 18:03 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
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>>
> Really?

really.

>Two questions.
> Where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?

The first inclination of the HIV pandemic in 1980, sweetie!

Where have YOU been?

> How long do you think a generation is?

A generation is long enough for you to grow up and
have a kid - thus the two of you represent 2 generations.
Include one of your parents and you have 3 generations.

And I'm being generous in describing a generation in
terms of 25 years - especially when 12 year old girls
are giving birth these days.

Again, a nine-year-old has to educate you on the basics.

God Death, are you dumb or what?

love

susie
Death - 03 Dec 2005 02:03 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?
>
> The first inclination of the HIV pandemic in 1980,

Not in Norway, which is the country of topic

AIDS Cases Rising Rapidly In Europe
by Malcolm Thornberry 365Gay.com European Bureau Chief

(London) The number of cases of HIV/AIDS in Europe continues to grow despite a major new
initiative by the European Union.

The biggest increase, by percentage, is in Norway where the government Monday reported the
number of gay men with HIV had more than doubled in the past two years.

After a decade of registering about 30 new HIV cases among gay men each year, the Norwegian
Institute of Public Health in 2003 listed 57 gays who had been infected, and preliminary
numbers for 2004 show 61 new cases.

"The real number is probably much higher," Institute counselor Oeivind Nilsen told the
Dagsavisen newspaper.

"The reasons for the increase in HIV (infections) are many, but one of the most worrying
reasons is that gays expose themselves to a risk of infection by having unsafe sex," Nilsen
said.

In September the European Union warned that Europe is facing a *(potential)* AIDS epidemic...

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/011705EuroHIV.htm
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my question stands, where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?
Susie, age 9 - 05 Dec 2005 05:31 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> Not in Norway, which is the country of topic

The pandemic was everywhere, Death - that's what "pandemic"
means, moron.

susie
Death - 05 Dec 2005 07:19 GMT
> > "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> The pandemic was everywhere, Death - that's what "pandemic"
> means, moron.

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?

AIDS Cases Rising Rapidly In Europe
by Malcolm Thornberry 365Gay.com European Bureau Chief

(London) The number of cases of HIV/AIDS in Europe continues to grow despite a major new
initiative by the European Union.

The biggest increase, by percentage, is in Norway where the government Monday reported the
number of gay men with HIV had more than doubled in the past two years.

After a decade of registering about 30 new HIV cases among gay men each year, the Norwegian
Institute of Public Health in 2003 listed 57 gays who had been infected, and preliminary
numbers for 2004 show 61 new cases.

"The real number is probably much higher," Institute counselor Oeivind Nilsen told the
Dagsavisen newspaper.

"The reasons for the increase in HIV (infections) are many, but one of the most worrying
reasons is that gays expose themselves to a risk of infection by having unsafe sex," Nilsen
said.

In September the European Union warned that Europe is facing a *(potential)* AIDS epidemic...

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/011705EuroHIV.htm
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my question stands, where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 17:25 GMT
> AIDS Cases Rising Rapidly In Europe
> by Malcolm Thornberry 365Gay.com European Bureau Chief

> After a decade of registering about 30 new HIV cases among gay men each
> year, the Norwegian
> Institute of Public Health in 2003 listed 57 gays who had been infected,
> and preliminary
> numbers for 2004 show 61 new cases.

So using the 2.8% estimate of homosexuals among the nearly 4.5 million
population of
Norway, there are an estimated 126,000 homosexuals in Norway.

So 61 cases in 2004 represent a yearly infection rate of 1 in 2065
homosexuals.

Hmmm, looks like HIV is really burning its way through the homosexual
population of Norway!

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 18:01 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> So using the 2.8% estimate of homosexuals among the nearly 4.5 million
> population of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Hmmm, looks like HIV is really burning its way through the homosexual
> population of Norway!

"Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message

> > >> > Where do you get a "pandemic" of 25 years?

What a pathetic fool
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 18:26 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> What a pathetic fool

Speak softly of yourself, Death ... the "pandemic" is in
quotes ... and illustration of a falsity of widespread illness
that you perpetrate on this newsgroup through your
internalized homophobia and self-loathing.

Thanks for offering the proof on all counts.

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 18:43 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> > "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >> > >> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Thanks for offering the proof on all counts.

My pleasure, scroll down

>"Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
>
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>
> Not in Norway, which is the country of topic

>The pandemic was everywhere, Death - that's what "pandemic"
>means, moron.

LOL, caught (susie) in another lie
Susie, age 9 - 06 Dec 2005 19:01 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>
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>>
> My pleasure, scroll down

no, MY pleasure ...

>>"Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
>>
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>
> LOL, caught (susie) in another lie

Not at all, Duck of Death. The pandemic WAS everywhere
and still is. The fact that the pandemic is true or false is
another matter entirely.

Too bad the big picture passes you by - but
that's to be expected of those with small ducks.

susie
Death - 06 Dec 2005 21:15 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> >>The pandemic was everywhere, Death - that's what "pandemic"
> >>means, moron.
>
> Not at all, Duck of Death. The pandemic WAS everywhere
> and still is. The fact that the pandemic is true or false is
> another matter entirely.

I see, the pandemic was/is everywhere, has been since 1980.

Now all we have to do is figure out if the pandemic that was/is
everywhere and has been since 1980, was/is (indeed) everywhere
and has been since 1980.
Susie, age 9 - 07 Dec 2005 15:34 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>> >
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> everywhere and has been since 1980, was/is (indeed) everywhere
> and has been since 1980.

No different than the bird flu pandemic, Duck of Death.

susie
Death - 07 Dec 2005 16:48 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message

> > "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> No different than the bird flu pandemic, Duck of Death.

VERY MUCH different. The bird flu is not spread via the a.shole.
Millions of people are not dead or dying.
There are no parades to promote the spread of H5N1.
The bird flu is being fought to prevent spreading.
Bird flu is curable, see Roche.
The people infected with the flu are not demanding the government stay out
of their business and then standing in line for free government treatments
and bitching the government is not doing enough to help them.

And the carriers of bird flu are being killed by the thousands..........Huummmmm

By Emma Graham-Harrison
12-7-05

BEIJING (Reuters) - A 10-year-old Chinese girl is the latest person to be infected with bird
flu, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Tuesday, as fears grow about the spread of the
deadly disease around the globe.

The World Health Organization's (WHO) top bird flu expert in Asia said a lack of equipment and
expertise in the continent's rural areas was limiting efforts to contain the virus.

Ukraine, which detected a virulent strain of avian flu in birds at the weekend, warned the
disease could spread from the Crimean peninsula to other parts of the east European country.

The H5N1 strain of bird flu is endemic in poultry in parts of Asia where it has infected more
than 130 people, killing 69.

Human cases remain relatively rare, but there are fears the virus could mutate into a form that
passes easily from person to person, sparking a pandemic in which millions could die.

The latest Chinese victim is a girl, surnamed Tang, from the southern Guangxi region. She has
been ill with fever and pneumonia since November 23, and has tested positive for H5N1, the
Xinhua report said.

Maria Cheng, a WHO spokeswoman in Geneva, said China had informed the WHO of the case. The girl
had been exposed to infected poultry a few weeks before falling ill, Cheng said.

The girl is in critical condition but all the people who have been in close contact with her
remain healthy, she added.

The central and regional governments have sent disease control teams into Ziyuan county where
the sick girl lives, Xinhua reported.

Two women from China's eastern Anhui province died of bird flu last month. Both were involved
in poultry farming.

Another confirmed victim, a nine-year-old boy, lives in
southern Hunan province which borders Guangxi. The boy has recovered from the illness.

There have been more than 30 outbreaks of bird flu in flocks across China this year and Beijing
has promised resources and openness in the fight against the virus.

It has culled 20 million birds and announced plans to vaccinate billions. But Health Minister
Gao Qiang has admitted that local doctors may be unable to detect H5N1.

LIMITED FACILITIES

Hitoshi Oshitani, the WHO's communicable disease expert in Asia, told Reuters that improved
surveillance of birds was needed to curb the spread of the virus in Asia.

Laboratory facilities were limited in many countries, especially Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam,
Indonesia and China where humans live in close contact with domestic and wild fowl, he told
Reuters during a visit to Singapore.

"The big, big challenge is to expand the surveillance network in the rural areas," Oshitani
said. "We have to provide some training and equipment and build new facilities to improve the
testing capacities."

The H5N1 virus has reached eastern Europe and Kuwait, probably spread by migratory birds.

There is a risk that the virus, which has been killing birds in the Crimean peninsula, could
spread to other parts of the country, a Ukrainian minister said on Tuesday.

"Danger exists for other regions," Emergency Minister Viktor Baloga told parliament during a
debate on endorsing a state of emergency imposed by President Viktor Yushchenko in five
villages in Crimea. More than 2,500 birds died at the weekend.

Authorities have sent samples of bird tissues to European laboratories to determine whether the
strain is H5N1 -- which has been detected in birds in neighboring Romania and Russia.

(Additional reporting by Olena Horodetska in Kiev, Mia Shanley in Singapore and Stephanie
Nebehay in Geneva)

© Reuters 2005.
Susie, age 9 - 07 Dec 2005 18:41 GMT
> "Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
> VERY MUCH different.

Oh noooo.

> The bird flu is not spread via the a.shole.

No - the bird flu only requires ONE a.shole.

And with you being the Duck of Death,  I think
we have our answer.

> Millions of people are not dead or dying.

So what? That doesn't make the pandemic any less real
to the masses!

> Bird flu is curable, see Roche.

LOL! Sweetie, even the common cold isn't curable.

> The H5N1 virus has reached eastern Europe and Kuwait, probably spread by
> migratory birds.

Duck of Death is a migratory bird.

Based on Duck's 100% infection rate belief for gays and HIV, the
Duck of Death MUST agree that he, as a waddling bird, MUST
be infected!

susie
Death - 07 Dec 2005 19:12 GMT
"Susie, age 9" <nomail@noway.com> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Oh noooo.

Don't be such a baby, boogieman won't get ya

> > The bird flu is not spread via the a.shole.
>
> No - the bird flu only requires ONE a.shole.

Yes, but the world is safe from you so......

> > Millions of people are not dead or dying.
>
> So what? That doesn't make the pandemic any less real
> to the masses!

Indeed it does. bird flu has killed less people than atvs have

> > Bird flu is curable, see Roche.
>
> LOL! Sweetie, even the common cold isn't curable.

The common cold is discussed in another thread, do pay attention.

> > The H5N1 virus has reached eastern Europe and Kuwait, probably spread by
> > migratory birds.

which are not faggots, so no problem
Susie, age 9 - 08 Dec 2005 01:53 GMT
> which are not faggots, so no problem

But you ARE a problem, Death Duck - because you ARE
a faggot.

susie
DavidT - 02 Dec 2005 18:26 GMT
Doh!

250 x 25 years = 6250.
6250 in 90000 = 7%

Or perhaps in your silly little 9 year old equivalent brain you think
people only have sex during a single year.
I've so far had 28 years of activity - and very nice it has been too,
and am looking forward to decades more.
Iconoclaster - 02 Dec 2005 23:14 GMT
>"'ve so far had 28 years of activity - and very nice it has been too, and
am looking forward to decades more."

You can't be serious, Master David!  Nice?  With condoms?  With continuous
thoughts about AIDS on your mind with every stroke?  Nothing for me,
please.
Susie, age 9 - 05 Dec 2005 05:35 GMT
> Doh!
>
> 250 x 25 years = 6250.
> 6250 in 90000 = 7%

LOL!

> Or perhaps in your silly little 9 year old equivalent brain you think
> people only have sex during a single year.

Nope. The 250 count was for all 25 years.

But even if only 7% of the gay people in Norway were "infected"
by a virus which was sexually contagious, that too would be
equally ridiculous.

> I've so far had 28 years of activity - and very nice it has been too,
> and am looking forward to decades more.

On the other hand, perhaps early alzheimer's-like syndromes
should be reconsidered to be a form of opportunistic disease,
particularly when they are obviously HIV-related.

susie
Death - 08 Nov 2005 01:48 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Three questions:
>
> 1) Why didn't this "HIV outbreak" happen twenty years ago in the
> straight porn industry when pre-condom stars like Peter North were
> playing switch hitter?

John C. Holmes didn't get aids till he did a film with faggot sex.
After that he had to steal for a living.
Drugs were his diet.
His wife left him.

Yep, that is what faggot sex did for him.
pauleewhiting - 08 Nov 2005 17:37 GMT
>John C. Holmes didn't get aids till he did a film with faggot sex.
>After that he had to steal for a living.
>Drugs were his diet.
>His wife left him.
>
>Yep, that is what faggot sex did for him.

Death, do you feel as if you're on some kind of "holy mission" for God
Almighty through His Son Jesus Christ?

If so, please let everyone in the audience know your purpose on this
forum, because you surely do NOT want to hide your "light" under a
bushel.

And we are all waiting for your response to the Ultimate Question for
Homophobic Bigots:

With God as Your Witness, do you accept Jesus Christ as Your Lord and
Saviour?

-Paul Whiting
Death - 08 Nov 2005 19:31 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Death, do you feel as if you're on some kind of "holy mission" for God
> Almighty through His Son Jesus Christ?

Are the sinful ways of your life causing you to ponder the future Paul?
Well, what little future you have anyway Paul.

> If so, please let everyone in the audience know your purpose on this
> forum,

I'm here like everyone else Paul, speaking my opinion about aids Paul.
That is ok isn't it Paul? You aren't going to go nazi on me are ya Paul?

I mean you wouldn't want to deny me my God given rights
would you Paul?
pauleewhiting - 08 Nov 2005 21:14 GMT
>I mean you wouldn't want to deny me my God given rights
>would you Paul?

Depends on what mood I am in.

If I am hungry for bigots, then the answer is yes.

-Auntie Christ
Death - 08 Nov 2005 21:41 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >I mean you wouldn't want to deny me my God given rights
> >would you Paul?
>
> Depends on what mood I am in.
>
> If I am hungry for bigots, then the answer is yes.

You should have prayed you'd never be hungry.
pauleewhiting - 09 Nov 2005 02:58 GMT
>"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>You should have prayed you'd never be hungry.

I am never hungry with bigots like you around.
Death - 09 Nov 2005 04:59 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> I am never hungry with bigots like you around.

See, you still haven't learned what the word means.
Why do you insist on being so ignorant?
pauleewhiting - 10 Nov 2005 01:19 GMT
>See, you still haven't learned what the word means.

4 entries found for bigot.

big?ot    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (bgt)

n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

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[French, from Old French.]

Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might
think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to
kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi
got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our
expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it
is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the
Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very
possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines,
members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old
French bigot meant ?an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.?
Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense ?a
superstitious hypocrite.?

[Download Now or Buy the Book]
Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright ? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

bigot

n : a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from
his own

Source: WordNet ? 2.0, ? 2003 Princeton University

bigot

A person who is religiously attached to a particular computer,
language, operating system, editor, or other tool (see
religious issues). Usually found with a specifier; thus,
"Cray bigot", "ITS bigot", "APL bigot", "VMS bigot", "Berkeley
bigot". Real bigots can be distinguished from mere partisans
or zealots by the fact that they refuse to learn alternatives
even when the march of time and/or technology is threatening
to obsolete the favoured tool. It is truly said "You can tell
a bigot, but you can't tell him much." Compare weenie.

[Jargon File]

Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, ? 1993-2005 Denis Howe
Death - 10 Nov 2005 02:16 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >See, you still haven't learned what the word means.
>
> n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or
> politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

here is another:

Webster's....bigot\'big-et\ n (MF);

a person obstinately devoted to a belief, practice, group or opinion.

In other words, you stand for something rather than kneel for anything.

welcome to my world.
pauleewhiting - 10 Nov 2005 09:41 GMT
>In other words, you stand for something rather than kneel for anything.
>
>welcome to my world.

Wow. Then, do you stand for fear?

Do you stand for intolerance?

Do you stand for ignorance?

Do you stand for stupidity?

Do you stand for death?

Do you stand for hate?

You really are dead.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 10 Nov 2005 14:25 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >In other words, you stand for something rather than kneel for anything.
> >
> >welcome to my world.
>
> Do you stand for death?

Dah, LOL
pauleewhiting - 11 Nov 2005 22:32 GMT
>> Do you stand for death?
>
>Dah, LOL

Too bad you aren't man enough to use your real name.

Too bad you have to hide behind that mask.

Too bad all you have left is fear.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 11 Nov 2005 23:33 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >Dah, LOL
>
> Too bad you aren't man enough to use your real name.

still whining over that? LOL
forget it, I been there, done that.

A faggot went after my business license and I'll not give
another cocksucker a second chance at it.

If you have something to say, say it here
not to the BBB.
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 00:17 GMT
>still whining over that? LOL
>forget it, I been there, done that.
>
>A faggot went after my business license and I'll not give

Hahahahaha...what a lame lie
Death - 12 Nov 2005 02:02 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Hahahahaha...what a lame lie

That being all you know is to lie, I can understand you being
suspicious of others.

Kinda like a thief, they lock their stuff up.
They suspect others are thieves also.

wanna go to the free clinic and watch the faggots stumble up the steps?
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 12:13 GMT
>That being all you know is to lie, I can understand you being
>suspicious of others.

LOL...lie upon lie. Silly fellow.

Why should I be anything less than suspicious of an avowed bigot and
coward who hasn't the guts to sign his own self-besmirched name??
Death - 12 Nov 2005 16:29 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Why should I be anything less than suspicious of an avowed bigot and
> coward who hasn't the guts to sign his own self-besmirched name??

Ok to stop you crying my first name is D, middle name E. last name Ath.
Now dry your tears my clown, go f.ck the monkey

Hey wanna go to the zoo and watch the elephants buttfuck?
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 22:53 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Why should I be anything less than suspicious of an avowed bigot and
>> coward who hasn't the guts to sign his own self-besmirched name??
>>
>Ok to stop you crying my first name is D, middle name E. last name Ath.

Liar.
Death - 12 Nov 2005 23:40 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Liar.

Awh boo whoo
GMCarter - 13 Nov 2005 00:51 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>Awh boo whoo

Your confession. A start!
Death - 13 Nov 2005 02:08 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Your confession. A start!

my imitation of you
GMCarter - 13 Nov 2005 10:29 GMT
>my imitation of you

No, dear. You're lying all on your own. Just as you always have.

So why do you spend SO much time here, thinking about gay this and
that?

Gotta wonder....
Death - 13 Nov 2005 15:27 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> So why do you spend SO much time here, ...

Do you remember asking that twice before?
I recall I told you, to kill time.

I believe you'll forget and ask again in a couple days.
How is it you never forget to bend over and take a strangers
load up the a.s?
GMCarter - 14 Nov 2005 18:57 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> So why do you spend SO much time here, ...
>
>Do you remember asking that twice before?
>I recall I told you, to kill time.

LOL...it's your life. "Kill time" eh? Til what? You grow up? Die?
That's YOUR life, YOUR time you're killing by stirring up all the hate
and anguish that afflicts you.
pauleewhiting - 12 Nov 2005 02:31 GMT
>>A faggot went after my business license and I'll not give
>
>Hahahahaha...what a lame lie

Actually, George, that's probably true...

I think that's why "Death" uses a fake name.

And, now, he's afraid of faggots since he's tasted the fury of one.

I kinda feel sorry for the poor, little mamma's boy.

She musta kept him on a short umbilical cord...

-Paul Whiting
pauleewhiting - 12 Nov 2005 02:24 GMT
>still whining over that? LOL
>forget it, I been there, done that.

What's the matter are you scared?

Does your pussy hurt?

>A faggot went after my business license and I'll not give
>another cocksucker a second chance at it.
>
>If you have something to say, say it here
>not to the BBB.

My, my, what a telling statement...

So you have tasted the wrath of a faggot before!

And now you're a scared little boy who does have the cock and balls to
walk the talk and give your real name.

Bet your friends think you're a real tough guy for calling out "faggot"
from behind a fake name...

Do you ever brag about your masculine prowess in the locker room?

What's the matter, pussy boy, are you scared you might get hurt by
another faggot?

Pussy boy is afraid of faggots!

Oooooh, poor scared little pussy boy is afraid of the big bad faggots
who might come hurt him!

Oh, that so sad!  Run to you mommy, now, and have her make it all better
for you...

-Paul Whiting
Death - 12 Nov 2005 03:28 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Does your pussy hurt?

nah, no aids there, but thanks for asking
pauleewhiting - 12 Nov 2005 05:03 GMT
>"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Does your pussy hurt?
>>
>nah, no aids there, but thanks for asking

No, I meant your vagina, pussy boy.

Ya know, the one you think with.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 12 Nov 2005 05:18 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Ya know, the one you think with.

that one isn't diseased either
pauleewhiting - 12 Nov 2005 05:30 GMT
>that one isn't diseased either

I wasn't referring to your pussy being diseased, I was referring to
being sore from the strain of too much use.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 12 Nov 2005 06:08 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> I wasn't referring to your pussy being diseased, I was referring to
> being sore from the strain of too much use.

no, this is a no brainer, it doesn't require any work.
you are what you are, and you do what you do, I just remind
pauleewhiting - 12 Nov 2005 22:57 GMT
>no, this is a no brainer, it doesn't require any work.
>you are what you are, and you do what you do, I just remind

And that's why you're a pussy boy, who doesn't have the cock and balls
to use his real name and who hides like a f.cking coward behind his
college nickname so that everyone in the world doesn't know he's
covering for his own sick sexual acts with dead chicks by calling
faggots a bunch of faggots.

Real men don't live in fear of the actions of other men, especially the
actions of faggots who go after a necrophile's business license.

Real men don't hide from other men, especially faggots on a forum.

You are a coward and it shows in your actions on this forum.

You don't even have the balls to sign your own name.

You're as much of a man as "Dubya."

Death The Necrophile.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 12 Nov 2005 23:44 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> And that's why you're a pussy boy, who doesn't have the cock and balls
> to use his real name ...

you don't know my n-ame
you don't know my n-ame

hahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahahahaha
pauleewhiting - 13 Nov 2005 02:20 GMT
>you don't know my n-ame
>you don't know my n-ame
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Death The Necrophile.

-Paul Whiting
Death - 13 Nov 2005 03:42 GMT
> >you don't know my n-ame

> Death

now that wasn't so hard was it?
Chris Noble - 13 Nov 2005 22:44 GMT
> >you don't know my n-ame
> >you don't know my n-ame
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -Paul Whiting

Paul,
I don't think this Death character is worth responding to.

I think everybody recognises him for what he is.

Chris Noble
Gary Stein - 14 Nov 2005 18:18 GMT
>> >you don't know my n-ame
>> >you don't know my n-ame
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> I think everybody recognises him for what he is.

Yes I understand that Paul and George think they are having fun with this
jerk but it is getting quite tiresome wading through these worthless posts
even after I have put Death into my twit filter and no longer see his posts.
I still have to go through George's and Paul's and frankly it's a total
waste of bandwidth and time.

Gary Stein
GMCarter - 14 Nov 2005 20:38 GMT
snip
>Yes I understand that Paul and George think they are having fun with this
>jerk but it is getting quite tiresome wading through these worthless posts
>even after I have put Death into my twit filter and no longer see his posts.
>I still have to go through George's and Paul's and frankly it's a total
>waste of bandwidth and time.

So don't!

Actually, Gary, I'm very curious about the way this poor fellow's mind
works. I genuinely am hoping that maybe he can find some healing tho I
never held much hope.  For he represents others who suffer a similar
illness of the mind and heart. Such illnesses we all bear from time to
time but rarely does it manifest in such a ferocious and dedicated
way. Indeed, as I've pointed out to him, it is the dedicated bigots
like him that can twist people's minds into becoming suicide bombers
or commit acts like lynching or what those sick people did to Matthew
Sheppard.

So the psychology fascinates me...sorry if it is a trouble to you. And
yeah, definitely I tend to veer off into just being playful with the
insults and all and that can justifiably viewed as a waste of
bandwidth, no doubt.

        George M. Carter
Chris Noble - 15 Nov 2005 23:03 GMT
> snip
> >Yes I understand that Paul and George think they are having fun with this
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> insults and all and that can justifiably viewed as a waste of
> bandwidth, no doubt.

I was just worried that Paul was taking this guy seriously.

He would be worth taking seriously if:
a) There was some chance of changing his mind. I don't think this is
likely
b) There was some chance that he would change other people's minds. I
also don't think this is likely.

Chris
GMCarter - 16 Nov 2005 00:34 GMT
snip
>He would be worth taking seriously if:
>a) There was some chance of changing his mind. I don't think this is
>likely

I've seen even the most messed up people change hearts, mind,
behaviors. So it *can* happen--but you're utterly right it is
unlikely.

>b) There was some chance that he would change other people's minds. I
>also don't think this is likely.

Agreed. Less likely even than his changing his mind.

        George M. Carter
Brian Mailman - 16 Nov 2005 01:27 GMT
> Agreed. Less likely even than his changing his mind.

You're assuming facts not in evidence, counselor.

B/
GMCarter - 16 Nov 2005 11:13 GMT
>> Agreed. Less likely even than his changing his mind.
>
>You're assuming facts not in evidence, counselor.

Yes, your honor! Will the bailiff now please whack my pee-pee???
Death - 16 Nov 2005 17:25 GMT
"Chris Noble" <ChrisJNoble@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > >I still have to go through George's and Paul's and frankly it's a total
> > >waste of bandwidth and time.

They are faggots, their whole life is a waste of time.
David Canzi -- non-mailable - 08 Nov 2005 05:06 GMT
>2) Why is this incident the ***only*** "HIV outbreak" we've EVER HEARD
>OF from Straight Porn Land after twenty f.cking years (or should that be
>"twenty years OF f.cking" )?

Perhaps you didn't hear because you weren't listening.

http://lukeisback.com/essays/essays/aids.htm

  "Five stars in American heterosexual porn tested HIV positive
  in 1998 - Kimberly Jade, Marc Wallice, Caroline, Brooke Ashley
  and Tricia Devereaux."

  "Veteran male performer Marc Wallice is widely thought to be
  the source of infection for everyone in 1998 (having engaged
  on camera in unprotected anal sex with the infected girls), and
  possibly Nena Cherry (2/97), Jordan McKnight (5/97), and French
  girls Delfin (6/97?) and Barbara Doll (5/95) in past years."

  "In 1999, Tony Montana and a Florida female performer
  tested HIV positive. On January 18, 2000, Niki Lae tested HIV
  positive. In January, 2001, black female Tori Coca Flame tested
  HIV positive."

Signature

David Canzi    "Each of these arguments by itself is invalid, but taken
        collectively they constitute an impressive body of evidence."
        (Skeptical Inquirer, Jul-Aug, 2005)

GMCarter - 08 Nov 2005 11:48 GMT
snip
>   "Veteran male performer Marc Wallice is widely thought to be
>   the source of infection for everyone in 1998 (having engaged
>   on camera in unprotected anal sex with the infected girls), ...

Yep, That's filthy hetero sex. Perverted production of unwanted
children who have to be abandoned, beaten and sent to Iraq. Heteros
are so vile, huh?

Sick hetero sex.
Death - 08 Nov 2005 14:19 GMT
"David Canzi -- non-mailable" <dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message

>    "Veteran male performer Marc Wallice is widely thought to be
>    the source of infection for everyone in 1998 (having engaged
>    on camera in unprotected anal sex ...

Why would a man hate his dick so much as to want
to stick it in sh.t?
GMCarter - 08 Nov 2005 22:44 GMT
>Why would a man hate his dick so much as to want
>to stick it in sh.t?

Why does it mean to hate to have some sh.t on a condomed cock?

Anal sex doesn't have to include fecal matter but it can. And it can
be done with a man or a woman. And many same sex male partners do not
engage in anal sex.

It washes off, dear. But you won't mind if that big latin stud gets it
up nice and deep in you!

Now, run along and find a healer dear before your brain pops.
Death - 09 Nov 2005 00:14 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >Why would a man hate his dick so much as to want
> >to stick it in sh.t?
>
> Why does it mean to hate to have some sh.t on a condomed cock?

I knew you wouldn't be able to answer the question,
I was talking about a man, not a filthy faggot.
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 11:25 GMT
snip
>I knew you wouldn't be able to answer the question,
>I was talking about a man, not a filthy faggot.

So FULL of hate! Doesn't it feel delicious? That self-satisfied smug
feeling of anger and "moral" disgust that fills your mind...takes over
your body and shakes you with a RAGE at the injustice that people may
not behave by some bizarre script you have rolling in your head...a
script that you run SCREAMING to, praying it will paper over your own
fears about what a "man" is, what YOU are...or are not...your failures
as a man, your desires...maybe your dear old dad derided you for being
a pathetic wimp or some such? Hard to say....

But clearly, it is more important to you to hang out with queers and
spread your anger, your hate, shaking the fibers of your brain loose
as it curdles in your guts, impotent and impossible to act upon as you
are no man, hiding anonymously at your keyboard....this is all so much
more important to your small, diseased little mind than trying to
actually find a girl friend?

        George M. Carter
Death - 09 Nov 2005 14:57 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> snip
> >I knew you wouldn't be able to answer the question,
> >I was talking about a man, not a filthy faggot.
>
> But clearly, it is more important to you to hang out with queers...

LOL, you can't get rid of me that easy.
I'll be here tomorrow to remind you of what you are,
what you do and the consequences of your filthy perversions.

does hiv cause aids, no filthy faggot a.sholes do
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 15:02 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
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>
>LOL, you can't get rid of me that easy.

I'm not trying to...I know you'll keep coming back. It's all you have
in your sad pathetic life, isn't it?
Certainly no girl friend! lol

No gf to f.ck in the a.s, huh?  Or maybe...for her to strap one on to
give you that good banging you so yearn for!!

        George M. Carter
Death - 09 Nov 2005 16:14 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >> snip
> >> >I knew you wouldn't be able to answer the question,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I'm not trying to...I know you'll keep coming back. It's all you have
> in your sad pathetic life, isn't it?

It passes the time when I get bored. You amuse me my clown

> Certainly no girl friend! lol

nope, no girlfriend

> No gf to f.ck in the a.s, huh?

nope, no girlfriend

>  Or maybe...for her to strap one on to
> give you that good banging you so yearn for!!

LOL, your perverted mind is working overtime.
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 17:16 GMT
snip
>It passes the time when I get bored. You amuse me my clown
...>
>nope, no girlfriend

Maybe you need to get laid?

Really--this is how you CHOOSE to pass time when you get bored?

And doesn't it make ya wonder?
Death - 09 Nov 2005 18:07 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> snip
> >It passes the time when I get bored. You amuse me my clown
> ...>
> >nope, no girlfriend
>
> Maybe you need to get laid?

Maybe, but it won't be with an infected faggot
that sits down and counts his CD4 cells to pass the time.

Hey, lets argue over what aids test works the best.
Oh, wait, how about weather faggots should use a con-dumb
to f.ck an infected aids ravished a.shole.
pauleewhiting - 10 Nov 2005 01:11 GMT
>So FULL of hate! Doesn't it feel delicious? That self-satisfied smug
>feeling of anger and "moral" disgust that fills your mind...takes over
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>more important to your small, diseased little mind than trying to
>actually find a girl friend?

Goddamnit, George!  That was f.cking HOT.

God, you know to put someone in their place!

Holy sh.t!  I'm may have to retire!

-Paul Whiting
Death - 10 Nov 2005 02:17 GMT
"pauleewhiting" <pauleewhiting@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Holy sh.t!  I'm may have to retire!

You have been a little flat lately.
pauleewhiting - 08 Nov 2005 17:53 GMT
>Perhaps you didn't hear because you weren't listening.
>
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>   positive. In January, 2001, black female Tori Coca Flame tested
>   HIV positive."

Wow, thirteen performers:

Kimberly Jade
Marc Wallice
Caroline
Brooke Ashley
Tricia Devereaux
Nena Cherry
Jordan McKnight
Delfin
Barbara Doll
Tony Montana
a Florida female performer
Niki Lae
Tori Coca Flame

You would think with all that "risk" the straight porn models would be
clamouring for condoms...

***Funny how they aren't.***

So, how is it that unprotected vaginal sex in Africa, and unprotected
anal sex in the rest of the world, has t