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David Canzi -- non-mailable - 12 Oct 2005 01:32 GMT
In the wake of talkabout's weekend crash, we have a message here
from Wilhelm Godschalk implying that "we" and talkabout "ran away"
from the debate, and on AME he hyped the disappearance of talkabout
as some kind of victory for dissidents:

http://groups.msn.com/RethinkingAIDS/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_
Message=99


| From: roepinwoes  in response to Message 16    Sent: 10/9/2005 8:32 PM
| Right, Paul. I started posting on healthgroups.com
|
| Goodbye Talkabout... And another one bites the dust.
| (Paul King would be soooo proud of us).
|
| Wilhelm

I hate to interrupt your victory dance, Wilhelm, but talkabout is up
now and working fine.

You took pride in what you thought was the destruction of a discussion
forum, and so revealed your true character.  You have no interest in
discussion or debate: you seek to silence non-dissident opinions by
destroying any AIDS-related forums where you can't exclude or remove
the opinions you oppose.  You want to "win" the argument by force.
Your goals are the goals of a censor.  Your methods are the methods
of a thug.

You are one irredeemably ugly and hateful specimen.

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pauleewhiting - 12 Oct 2005 05:13 GMT
"I hate to interrupt your victory dance, Wilhelm, but talkabout is up now
and working fine.

You took pride in what you thought was the destruction of a discussion
forum, and so revealed your true character.  You have no interest in
discussion or debate: you seek to silence non-dissident opinions by
destroying any AIDS-related forums where you can't exclude or remove
the opinions you oppose.  You want to "win" the argument by force. Your
goals are the goals of a censor.  Your methods are the methods of a thug.

You are one irredeemably ugly and hateful specimen."

You forgot to include me in your chastisement, since I made the same
assumption!

In fact, everyone in Dissident Land did, when talkabout just fell off the
face of the earth.  We thought you guys had run away!  That's why we went
looking for you and found you *alive and well* on healthnewsgroups.com.

What?  You didn't notice my post there, asking what had happened to
talkabout?

We missed you!  We don't want to you to go!

It's too much fun to point out the gaping flaws in the HIV theory of
AIDS!

We don't want you all to leave...we simply want your audience to see this
theory for what is truly is - a scalding calderon of excrement.

Besides, you're doing *way too good* of a job assisting us in collapsing
this faulty paradigm by just *being yourselves.*

Don't ever, ever leave us, okay?

Cause we're never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, going to leave you!

Love you!  Mean it!

-Paulee
Iconoclaster - 31 Oct 2005 01:52 GMT
>"Your goals are the goals of a censor.  Your methods are the methods of a
thug.
You are one irredeemably ugly and hateful specimen."

On the contrary, Mr.  Canzi; I'm a nice fellow.
It may surprise you that I'm very much opposed to censorship.  And that's
what the orthodoxy has practised on us for more than 20 years.  Did you by
any chance see the documentary "The other side of AIDS"?  The part where
the unspeakable Mark Wainberg is interviewed?  Now that's what I would
call an ugly and hateful thug.
After 20+ years of censorship and being ignored, I feel absolutely no
remorse about giving the orthodoxy a dose of their own medicine.  I have
expressed my position before: I've had it with you.  I feel absolutely no
respect for any of you toxic meds pushers.  There's no way I can call
encouraging others to load themselves up with a stigma (testing),
destroying their sex lives (condoms), and setting themselves up for a slow
and agonizing death (ARV's) a laudable way of behavior.
Please explain what kind of "force" I use to win arguments.  I seek the
debate, and I have not done anything to bring down any board or forum.
But whenever a group of HIV fanatics throws in the towel and decides to
stop their useless struggle, I cheer.  This HIV/AIDS myth has to come
down.  It has done lots of harm and caused the deaths of too many innocent
people.
It was YOUR little group I saw dancing on the graves of unfortunate people
who did not do anything worse than doubting your pet paradigm. And even on
the grave of an innocent 3-year old who was too young to realize she was
controversial.
I was not the only one who stated "It's war now!" There are other
dissidents who feel the same, and many of them have not posted here yet.
If you find me (of all people) ugly and hateful, you may have a good
reason not to keep any mirrors in your house.
If Talkabout was down for a short period, it was not I who caused it, nor
anyone I know.  Maybe you were re-grouping?

Wilhem

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