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GMCarter - 11 Oct 2005 22:14 GMT
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/05/30/ED9
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San Francisco Chronicle
Proven Connection -- HIV Causes AIDS
Differences between U.S. and African epidemics don't disprove cause of
both

Jay Levy, Nancy Padian, Jeff Sheehy

Tuesday, May 30, 2000

--THE VIEW PUBLISHED in Open Forum last week during South African
President Thado Mbeki's visit to San Francisco gives the impression
that the association between HIV and AIDS is still questionable. The
contrary is true.--

The overwhelming evidence indicates that HIV causes AIDS.

The HIV deniers have pointed to President Mbeki's recognition that HIV
in Africa has been transmitted predominately by heterosexual contact,
as opposed to the United States and other developed countries where
HIV has been transmitted predominately by homosexual contact. The
belief has been stated that this discrepancy somehow proves that HIV
does not cause AIDS.

It is important not to confuse the epidemiology of HIV transmission in
the United States with what is occurring in Africa. In this county,
the studies used to determine the odds of transmitting HIV in a single
act of unprotected vaginal sex between an infected man and an
uninfected woman, which stand at about 1,000 to 1, excluded risk
factors known to increase HIV transmission. These low odds do not hold
in the presence of other well-established risk factors, prominent in
Africa, such as other sexually transmitted diseases, which can
increase the risk. Thus warnings, based on science about heterosexual
transmission that lead people to change their behaviors to save their
own lives and the lives of others, have been a critical component of
our prevention strategies.

Indeed, successful HIV prevention programs have actually been
responsible for maintaining low infection rates among heterosexuals in
this country. Notwithstanding this country's success in limiting
heterosexual transmission of HIV, there are many factors that could
account for the widespread heterosexual epidemic in Africa that differ
from what we have observed here. As is the case with virtually all
illnesses and infections, patterns of disease distribution and
transmission differ depending on location.

Some of these factors are biological, and some are behavioral and
social. Biological factors include the high prevalence of other
sexually transmitted diseases, which facilitate transmission, and the
high rates of bacterial vaginosis among women, known to increase
susceptibility. Also, in Africa a predominant virus (clade C) may be
more easily transmitted through mucosal contact. Further, the presence
of many tropical diseases, as well as nutritional and other factors
among people in developing countries, may compromise their general
immune competence and thus increase susceptibility to HIV infection.

Behavioral and social factors that could facilitate the heterosexual
spread of HIV in Africa include a greater power imbalance between
genders that makes it much more difficult for women to avoid sexual
contact with an infected husband or to negotiate condom use.
Importantly, there is less access to health care, which greatly
contributes to high rates of sexually transmitted diseases and other
health problems that might increase susceptibility to HIV.

Finally, far fewer resources have been available for successful
prevention programs when such resources are urgently needed in Africa
and the developing world to fight this disease. There is an abundance
of evidence proving that HIV causes AIDS. A fact sheet (found at
hivinsite.ucsf.edu/) prepared by the Office of Communications and
Public Liaison at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
Diseases clearly shows the link:

Koch's postulates, developed in the late 19th century, are the most
cited criteria used over the years to prove the connection between
disease-causing agents and disease. These tenets have served as the
litmus test for determining the cause of any epidemic disease.

To restate:

1. Epidemiological association: The suspected cause must be strongly
associated with the disease.

2. Isolation: The suspected pathogen can be isolated -- and propagated
-- outside the host.

3. Transmission pathogenesis: Transfer of the suspected pathogen to an
uninfected host, man or animal, produces the disease in that host.
With regard to postulate 1, numerous studies from around the world
show that virtually all AIDS patients carry antibodies that indicate
HIV infection.

With regard to postulate 2, modern laboratory techniques have allowed
the isolation of HIV in virtually all AIDS patients, as well as in
almost all HIV-positive individuals with both early- and late-stage
disease. In addition, the polymerase chain reaction procedure and
other sophisticated molecular techniques have enabled researchers to
document the presence of HIV genes in virtually all patients with
AIDS, as well as in individuals in earlier stages of HIV disease.

HIV infection always precedes AIDS. Postulate 3 has been fulfilled in
tragic incidents such as those involving three laboratory workers with
no other risk factors who have developed AIDS or severe immune
deficiency after accidental exposure to concentrated, pure HIV in the
laboratory. In all three cases, HIV was isolated from the infected
individual, sequenced and shown to be identical to the infectious
virus from the laboratory.

In addition, through June 1999, the Centers for Disease Control
received reports of 55 health care workers in the United States with
documented, occupationally acquired HIV infection, of whom 25 have
developed AIDS in the absence of other risk factors. The development
of AIDS following infection with HIV also has been repeatedly observed
in pediatric and adult blood-transfusion cases, in mother-to-child
transmission, and in studies of hemophilia, injection-drug use and
sexual transmission in which antibodies to HIV can be documented using
serial blood samples. Indeed, young children free of any risk factors
that might be associated with immune disorders (e.g., illicit drug
use, malnutrition, therapy for other diseases) have developed AIDS.
HIV was the only infectious agent associated with their disease. We
know that HIV causes AIDS. We know how HIV is transmitted. We know
that advising people to avoid contact with HIV is the best way to
avoid infection. We can only hope that the public is aware that
encouraging even one person to stop practicing safe sex, to believe
that HIV is no longer something to be feared, can have tragic
consequences.

The reality underlying this divisive controversy is that so much
remains to be done. In several communities here in the United States,
HIV is spreading. In Africa and in much of the developing world, the
spread of the disease is catastrophic. If left unchallenged, HIV will
continue to infect and sicken the populations of the world. Instead of
continuing to question the overwhelming evidence that HIV causes AIDS,
let us join together to fight this infectious agent before it can
create even more devastating damage in the world.

Dr. Jay Levy is professor of medicine at UCSF, and director of the
Laboratory for Tumor and AIDS Virus Research. Dr. Nancy Padian is
professor of obstetrics, gynecology, and reproductive science at UCSF,
and director of international research at UCSF's AIDS Research
Institute. Jeff Sheehy is the communications deputy director for
UCSF's AIDS Research Institute.

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pauleewhiting - 12 Oct 2005 04:52 GMT
"The overwhelming evidence indicates that HIV causes AIDS."

“In the past, we have received comments about the ‘overwhelming evidence’
(a favorite expression of establishment scientists) for HIV causing AIDS,
but precious little direct comments on the specific challenges [to] the
theory, challenges which are now widening the chinks in the armor of the
HIV hypothesis into gaping holes.”

sci.med.aids newsgroup, December 29, 1996

— Todd Miller, PhD, Assistant Professor, Department of Molecular and
Cellular Pharmacology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida

“Proponents of the HIV dogma assert repeatedly that ‘the evidence for HIV
is overwhelming.’ When they are asked to produce it or cite some
reference, the usual response is ridicule or some ad hominem attack
imputing motives. But never a simple statement of facts. Nobody, to my
knowledge, has ever provided a definitive answer to the simple question,
‘Where is the study that proves HIV causes AIDS?’ It’s just something that
‘everybody knows’ is true.”

Aids Heresy And The New Bishops, Monadnock Review 1997, 2001

— James P. Hogan, author of 26 science fiction novels and the science
books Kicking the Sacred Cow: Questioning the Unquestionable and Thinking
the Impermissible and Mind Matters: Exploring the World of Artificial
Intelligence.

“Unfortunately, the assumption that it has been proven is so universal,
and so universally used as the premise of any research, that there is
virtually no data free of it. Thus, what was a supposition to be tested
has become accepted as a fact, proven by a circularity. Data gathered
using the assumption that HIV causes AIDS are offered as ‘overwhelming’
evidence of the assumption.”

Conference for Science and Democracy, Institute for Philosophical Studies,
Naples, Italy, April 20, 2001

— Anthony F. Liversidge, Science Writer and contributing editor at Omni
Magazine
Gary Stein - 12 Oct 2005 18:01 GMT
> "The overwhelming evidence indicates that HIV causes AIDS."
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> using the assumption that HIV causes AIDS are offered as ‘overwhelming’
> evidence of the assumption.”

ROFLMAO, this one is a prime example of the quotes Paul so loves to spread.
Here he thinks because Mr. James P. Hogan is the author of 26 science
fiction novels then of course he is an expert on medicine, virology,
pharmacology etc etc. Well he is an expert at writing 'fiction' and that's
what he's done here write some more fiction.

Gary Stein
pauleewhiting - 13 Oct 2005 06:17 GMT
"ROFLMAO, this one is a prime example of the quotes Paul so loves to
spread.  Here he thinks because Mr. James P. Hogan is the author of 26
science fiction novels then of course he is an expert on medicine,
virology, pharmacology etc etc. Well he is an expert at writing 'fiction'
and that's what he's done here write some more fiction."

My GOD, Gary, how could I have NOT SEEN what foolishness there is in
quoting an author!

Why, why it's *unheard of* for someone who *isn't* an "expert on medicine,
virology, pharmacology etc etc." to question a blatently flawed scientific
theory!

But wait!

Even if the dissidents *DO* quote someone questioning the HIV theory who
also happens to be an "expert on medicine, virology, pharmacology," these
individuals are *STILL* dismissed for some other reason - usually because
they are "denialists."

Isn't it AMAZING how NO ONE who questions the HIV theory of AIDS can be
trusted?

Is this just a COINCIDENCE?  I think NOT, brothers and sisters!

CLEARLY all those who question this theory are crackpots, regardless of
what kind of formal training they may have....

In fact, ANYONE who questions government-funded science AT ALL, is just a
nut case!

And we should just LOCK THEM UP and be done with it!

-Reverend Whiting
GMCarter - 13 Oct 2005 11:58 GMT
>"ROFLMAO, this one is a prime example of the quotes Paul so loves to
>spread.  Here he thinks because Mr. James P. Hogan is the author of 26
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>My GOD, Gary, how could I have NOT SEEN what foolishness there is in
>quoting an author!

My GOD Paul, I'm so glad you were the one that said

>"HIV exists and causes AIDS."

        George M. Carter
Polly Prissypants - 12 Oct 2005 08:17 GMT
GMCarter wrote..., On 10/11/2005 14:14:
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/05/30/ED9
6076.DTL

>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> belief has been stated that this discrepancy somehow proves that HIV
> does not cause AIDS.

And so of course the leftist San Francisco intellectuals are in quite
a bind.  On one hand they want billions of more dollars dumped on
HIV research, and on the other hand they must subscribe to the notion
that all ethnic cultures are equal, absolutely equal.  South Africa
represents an African culture, albeit more sophisticated than most,
so if the South African dictator says that HIV does not cause AIDS
then that is representative of African cultural opinion and therefore
equally valid as the imperialist Western notion that HIV causes AIDS.

How do enlightened leftists reconcile their opinion with the opinion
of third-world cultures that they consider equal?  If for some reason
leftists felt the need to launch space probes, would they consult
with aerospace engineers from a culture that believed the earth was
flat and had no concept of zero?  Are traditional tribal traditions
(involving animal sacrifice) to be given equal validity as the most
modern quantum string theory?
GMCarter - 12 Oct 2005 12:18 GMT
snip
>And so of course the leftist San Francisco intellectuals are in quite
>a bind.  

what the f.ck are you on about, diablo?
Brian Mailman - 12 Oct 2005 18:30 GMT
> snip
>>And so of course the leftist San Francisco intellectuals are in quite
>>a bind.  
>
> what the f.ck are you on about, diablo?

If he only actually considered, San Franciscans are actually quite
conservative all in all.

B/
Death - 09 Nov 2005 16:19 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> San Francisco Chronicle
> Proven Connection -- HIV Causes AIDS

> as opposed to the United States and other developed countries where
> HIV has been transmitted predominately by homosexual contact.

Do you read the stuff you post?
Aids is in the a.shole.
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 17:19 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Do you read the stuff you post?
>Aids is in the a.shole.

Wow, then you are Aids personified.

If by that you mean HIV is transmitted by unprotected anal sex, no one
has ever argued that.

So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
ya wonder?
Death - 09 Nov 2005 17:57 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
> ya wonder?

LOL. I'm not the one sitting here whining that I have a faggot disease.
Seems you have the a.shole fixation and the filthy disease to prove it.

I'm here to remind you of it, LOL
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 18:00 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
>> ya wonder?
>>
>LOL. I'm not the one sitting here whining that I have a faggot disease.

What are you sitting here doing? Expending your life being an a.shole.
Hmmm....wonder why?

So when did you become HIV+?

        George M. Carter
Death - 09 Nov 2005 18:36 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> So when did you become HIV+?

LOL, I'm not. Ain't life been mean to you?

Lets take about the grubment staying out of the bedroom
until you need aid with the aids you got in the bedroom.
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 23:00 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> So when did you become HIV+?
>>
>LOL, I'm not.

Really?
Death - 10 Nov 2005 01:00 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Really?

Really really
Death - 09 Nov 2005 18:39 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> What are you sitting here doing? Expending your life being an a.shole.

Not at all. a.sholes spread aids so I can't be one of those filthy things.
GMCarter - 09 Nov 2005 23:01 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> What are you sitting here doing? Expending your life being an a.shole.
>
>Not at all. a.sholes spread aids so I can't be one of those filthy things.

LOL...grant ya that. More like what comes out of them. Smelly gas and
sh.t!

Now, dear. Please. Find yourself some healing.

Gary had some interesting advice about the twit filter....I'll
consider that.

Best of luck, dear.

        George M. Carter
Brian Mailman - 09 Nov 2005 23:55 GMT
> Gary had some interesting advice about the twit filter....I'll
> consider that.

It's possible it's time to invoke Formosa's Rule...

B/
Death - 10 Nov 2005 01:04 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >Not at all. a.sholes spread aids so I can't be one of those filthy things.
>
> LOL...grant ya that.

an action or an opinion?
Brian Mailman - 09 Nov 2005 23:51 GMT
>>> So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
>>> ya wonder?

Say, did you get the email I sent a last week or so, with that
'interesting' messag he made?

B/
GMCarter - 10 Nov 2005 11:10 GMT
>>>> So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
>>>> ya wonder?
>
>Say, did you get the email I sent a last week or so, with that
>'interesting' messag he made?

Hmmmm....not sure...is that the one where he was looking for a nice
big latino stud to bang his hot aching little hole?
Brian Mailman - 10 Nov 2005 22:29 GMT
>>>>> So you really do have this a.shole fixation, doncha? And don't it make
>>>>> ya wonder?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Hmmmm....not sure...is that the one where he was looking for a nice
> big latino stud to bang his hot aching little hole?

I suspect I've now proved that I knew what I was talking about :)

B/
Death - 11 Nov 2005 00:46 GMT
"Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message >
> I suspect I've now proved that I knew what I was talking about

"suspect" is the correct word.
In fact you have failed miserably in posting the trace
for your fantasy.

If ya got it, flaunt it.
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 11:08 GMT
snip
>If ya got it, flaunt it.

You'd like that, eh? Love to see him flaunt it...see that big,
throbbing pulsing member, filling your mouth with saliva, tingling
your loins into an excitement that you just gosh darn HATE so much but
oh! Look at that....

LOL. You're such a silly w.nker.
Death - 11 Nov 2005 15:24 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> LOL. You're such a silly w.nker.

Just like a faggot to take something and pervert it.
That still won't distract from the fact the faggot sock
mailman has not posted the trace to hang me with.

If you could, you would have done so by now.
Your lie is blatant and obvious. What a clown you are.
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 16:36 GMT
...
>If you could, you would have done so by now.
>Your lie is blatant and obvious. What a clown you are.

You're a joke. Who cares what an anonymous wretch like you has to say?

LOL....dearest! Really. The one who has to suffer the ignominy of your
hate and fear and self-loathing the most is only you!

If you allowed yourself the opportunity to let go of the hate, you
would feel much better.

But ya won't. You're way too much of a coward.

Is that your definition of a "man" then, eh?

        George Mary Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2005 16:55 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> LOL.... Really. The one who has to suffer the ignominy of your
> hate and fear and self-loathing the most is only you!

No, it seems to bother you more, LOL
I'm having a good ole time, my clown

Hey have you heard Texas is the 19th state to reject faggot marriage?
It seems the faggots ain't as accepted as they claim.

See faggie, I am not alone, just more in your face.
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 19:29 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>No, it seems to bother you more, LOL
>I'm having a good ole time, my clown

Wow. Rather this than out there girl hunting, huh? Hmmmm...wonder why?

You call this a good time? Phew. You truly are a sad  lilttle nothing
much, aren't ya?

>Hey have you heard Texas is the 19th state to reject faggot marriage?

Maine accepted it! LOL.

>It seems the faggots ain't as accepted as they claim.

Seems like Texas kills a lot of people and still embraces racism and
sexism. But not all Texans feel that way, of course.

But times, they are a-changin'

        George M. Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2005 20:15 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> Wow. Rather this than out there girl hunting, huh? Hmmmm...wonder why?

LOL, I've told you before, I don't date girls.
My wife won't let me.

my senile clown, LOL
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 20:32 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Wow. Rather this than out there girl hunting, huh? Hmmmm...wonder why?
>>
>LOL, I've told you before, I don't date girls.
>My wife won't let me.

LOL. You're not married. You're lying. No woman would be sluttish
enough to marry a jackass like you that fritters away his time
pretending he's married and beating up homos whilst secretly desiring
a homoerotic liaison!

Silly clown!! lol....

        George M. Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2005 23:47 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
>
> >LOL, I've told you before, I don't date girls.
> >My wife won't let me.
>
> LOL. You're not married. You're lying.

shrug     If you say so, my senile aids ravished ole clown.

Hey lets go down to the drug store and put holes in all the con-dumbs.

for all you know I may live down the street from you
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 00:18 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>shrug     If you say so,

i do.
Death - 12 Nov 2005 02:33 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> i do.

hahahahahah not in 19 states, and counting

hey wanna go to a roadside shithouse in Texas and watch the faggies cry?
Death - 11 Nov 2005 19:25 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >
> LOL.... The one who has to suffer the ignominy of your
> hate and fear and self-loathing the most is only you!

LOL, looks like you are still full of sh.t faggie.
This came from flame f.cking faggots, posted by James, enjoy

State Marriage Amendments -- 19 In a Row ... and Counting

Jody Brown

(AgapePress) - State constitutional amendments protecting traditional
marriage continued their unbeaten streak on Tuesday when Texans
overwhelmingly voted in favor of keeping marriage what it has been for
centuries: the union of a man and a woman.

Texas became the 19th state to approve a constitutional ban on
same-sex
"marriage." Proposition 2 received 76 percent of the vote yesterday
despite attempts by the opposition to confuse voters. Homosexual
rights
activists used pre-election phone calls, e-mails and Internet postings
to spread their case, arguing that the proposition was poorly worded
and could mean trouble for conventional marriage between a man and a
woman. Some of those phone calls reportedly played a pre-recorded
message from someone claiming to be a pastor and urging people to vote
no on the proposition if they wanted to protect traditional marriage.

As approved, the amendment not only states that marriage in Texas
consists only of the union of one man and one woman, but also
prohibits
the state or its political subdivisions from creating or recognizing
any legal status identical or similar to marriage, such as civil
unions. Same-sex marriage was already illegal in Texas, but supporters
of the amendment said it was needed to prevent judges from striking
down the law.

Conservative spokesman Gary Bauer calls the vote in the Lone Star
State
a "resounding endorsement of traditional marriage," noting that when
President Bush ran for re-election in 2004 he only received 61 percent
in his home state. That, says Bauer, is an indication of the "power of
this issue" of protecting traditional marriage.

And with Texas being the 19th state to approve a constitutional
amendment do exactly that, Bauer wonders if national leaders are
paying
attention. "How many of these votes do we have to win by such
lop-sided
margins before Congress finds the political will to support the
people's values?" he asks. Bauer, chairman of the Campaign for
Working Families, is a strong proponent of the need for a federal
marriage amendment.

A 'Tall Tale' So why didn't the campaign of deception staged by
advocates of same-sex marriage work? Bob Knight of the Culture and
Family Institute attributes it to the common sense found in the people
of Texas.

"Most Texans are down-to-earth folks," Knight says, "which is why the
attempt to fool them into thinking a marriage protection amendment was
actually a threat to marriage didn't wash." He says whoever thought of
that "tall tale" are "snake oil salesmen."

Texas was the only state with a marriage amendment on the ballot this
election cycle. Several more states are slated to vote on state
constitutional marriage amendments next year. Among those are Alabama,
South Carolina, South Dakota, and Tennessee.

--

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."--Edmund Burke
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 19:31 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message >
>> LOL.... The one who has to suffer the ignominy of your
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>State Marriage Amendments -- 19 In a Row ... and Counting

A lot of states didn't want desegregation or civil rights either.

Didn't make it right. Just more of the pathetic dogmatism of right
wing ideologues, bigots and cowards who hide behind the internet!

LOL.....you won't last long. Truth will roll over you...and maybe wake
you up so you can let go of your diseased mind's grip on hate, fear
and cowardice?

Probably not.

        George M. Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2005 20:12 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> A lot of states didn't want desegregation or civil rights either.

that has nothing to do with faggots
so your distraction ain't working

19 states and counting
GMCarter - 11 Nov 2005 20:14 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> A lot of states didn't want desegregation or civil rights either.
>>
>that has nothing to do with faggots

LOL...you make the point nicely. Discrimination, bigotry, racism,
homophobia--they're of a class of expressions of being that are all
about stigma, discrimination, oppression and generated by small minded
folks who can't find a girl friend, for example.

Or don't have the guts to use their own name!

        George M. Carter
Death - 11 Nov 2005 23:52 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> LOL...you make the point nicely. ...

again

hey lets go to the store and watch faggots buy pampers
and pretend they aren't for their aids infected, too large
to hold back accidents a.shole.
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 00:19 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>again

you lies are your legacy. Your hate is your doom.
Death - 12 Nov 2005 03:00 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> you lies are your legacy.

point out just one lie faggie.
that should be easy for a smart
shiteater like you.

never mind, heck you can't even keep your a.shole free of disease.

Hey,lets go to the blue oyster bar and pass out those con-dumbs with the holes.
GMCarter - 12 Nov 2005 12:22 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> you lies are your legacy.
>>
>point out just one lie faggie.

most any of your posts are filled with lies...mostly the ones you tell
to yourself!

wow! I can see the heat of your fury is boiling up inside you...the
rage is going to crack your skull and fry your guts, even as you
impotently hide behind your keyboard in that rather tawdry, stained
pair of panties....

best, dearest....
Death - 13 Nov 2005 00:12 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

>  "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> most any of your posts are filled with lies...mostly the ones you tell
> to yourself!

I just asked for ONE, I didn't think you'd pass on such
an easy task, but alas, you did.

Come on give it another try
GMCarter - 13 Nov 2005 00:52 GMT
>I just asked for ONE, I didn't think you'd pass on such
>an easy task, but alas, you did.

You just lied about your name.
Death - 13 Nov 2005 02:27 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> >I just asked for ONE, I didn't think you'd pass on such
> >an easy task, but alas, you did.
>
> You just lied about your name.

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