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jean013 - 06 Oct 2005 21:56 GMT
Friends,

Last week I wrote on this board :

>>> The specialist humbug about existing or non-existing viruses, well, I
can't judge and although I must admit that sometimes the so-called
"denialists" do seem to make a point, I stick to my opinion that it's
highly unlikely regular science be wrong in it's overall approach.

Why did I write that ? I figure it would be a terrible blow to modern
society if we were to realize that aids-dissidents were right after all
and to me the result would be a total disillusion I cannot cope with.
After all, I recently discovered that all criticism has been brutally
shovelled under for more than twenty years already and if the critics were
to be right in the end, it would imply that politics, science and media
are totally rotten and corrupt on a planetary scale.

I think you’re wrong, DavidT. You wrote:

>>> Whatever the field of science, the dissenting voice gets all the
attention. <<<

I object. Dissenting voices get NO attention. You may say that it&#8217;s
smeared all over the web, and that&#8217;s true, but even if those
dissident web pages were read by the thousands every day, the hundreds of
millions get their information from the leading newspapers and TV shows
exclusively and AIDS deniers are absolutely unknown to the masses.

DavidT, some days ago you wrote in an answer to one of my messages:

>>> What I mean by "someone like you" is precisely what you mean when
describing yourself- someone who has visited these boards looking for
information/discussion on the topics <<<

OK, let&#8217;s restart from there. I&#8217;m looking for information and
you gave me some. For instance, you provided me with some links. I read
them and one of my reactions was:

>!!!! First described in 1980 but you might not get sick until several
decades after being infected. !!!! This is ridiculous. We're only in 2005
so where's the wizard who can show me reliable statistics about several
decades after 1980 ? And even: the idea of a virus that makes one sick
twenty years after infection, I don't know, but I'd say you definitely
seem to forget something if you think that that virus is the only cause of
the disease. <

Now, if this isn&#8217;t a crying example of a sheep loosing the herd.
Where is your reaction?

You wrote:
>>> But occasionally there is someone like you who comes along and tries
to see what is going on, and it is important that the dissidents don't
have unfettered sway on forums like
these. <<<

So I conclude that you&#8217;ve put on the boots of the sheepherder. So
then, do the job. There must be something you can write to stop me from
reading that article as a piece of hilarious nonsense while drifting away
to another shore from where I will never be able again to think of science
and journalism otherwise than totally crippled and crooked.

Take good care, all of you,

Very worried Charles Hoy and Joan of Arc
pauleewhiting - 10 Oct 2005 01:52 GMT
>Friends,
>
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>
>Very worried Charles Hoy and Joan of Arc

So, how about it, boys?

Do you have a cunningly decisive response to stop Charles and Joan from
"drifting away to another shore from where [they] will never be able
again to think of science and journalism otherwise than totally crippled
and crooked"?

-Paul Whiting
 
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