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Dissidency and Salvation

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David Canzi -- non-mailable - 30 Sep 2005 03:09 GMT
In article <59c36e8883d71b432ea78f9acba3bf8d@localhost.talkabouthealthnetwork.com>,
pauleewhiting <pauleewhiting@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Last I checked, there were zero dissidents being given, say, 270 billion
>dollars to question the HIV theory...
>
>So, what are we getting out of this?

Many people sacrifice their time and money to a church in return for
a promise that they will live forever in a paradise after they die.
Some of these people invade atheist forums on the internet.  If they
can argue an atheist into believing, it reassures them that their
arguments and conclusions are correct and quiets their secret doubts
about the validity of their tickets to heaven.

For HIV-positive people, AIDS dissidency promises a secular kind of
salvation: long life.  HIV-positive dissidents congregate in dissident
forums where, like church goers, they receive social reassurance from
being surrounded by like-minded people.  For some this reassurance
is not enough and, like religious invaders in atheist forums, they
invade non-dissident forums to proselytize.

"So what about HIV-negative dissidents?"  you may ask.  The following
link suggests an explanation for some, but not all, of them:

http://pl.atyp.us/wordpress/?p=975

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David Canzi            "I am not denying anything." -- Celia Farber

pauleewhiting - 30 Sep 2005 04:02 GMT
"If they can argue an atheist into believing, it reassures them that their
arguments and conclusions are correct and quiets their secret doubts about
the validity of their tickets to heaven."

You have found us out, David!

Yes, it's true, folks!

We denialists are all out to receive social reassurance to quite our
secret doubts about the validity of our beliefs by converting
non-believers and we have even successfully infiltrated the U.S.
military:

“You do not want to give (AZT) to anyone, but especially to a baby, which
is basically a mass of replicating DNA...I have an 8-year-old daughter,
and I would never give her AZT - I would leave the state or country
first.”

“It's terrible to tell a practicing doctor that his therapy is killing his
patients...There’s almost no way to engage orthodox physicians in this
debate because they go nuts on you.”

The Register-Guard (Eugene, Oregon). 29 Dec 1998

“I don't recommend people ever getting tested. The reason is I don’t know
what the tests mean, and I think no one else knows what the tests mean.
I’ve never seen any evidence that what these tests purport to show they’re
actually showing -- namely, the presence of a virus, the presence of an
exogenous virus. I really would like to see the electron microscopic data
of this, and apparently there is none. There is none where you’ve done a
rigorous isolation protocol.”

The Other Side of AIDS  http://www.theothersideofaids.com

— Robert De Prato, MD, US Dept. of Defense. Portland, Oregon

From http://www.aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm
Fondoo - 30 Sep 2005 09:22 GMT
 I had an HIV+ test 14 yrs ago. I was looking at holistic treatments
because I was tired of feeling tired (wacky side effect of chemotherapy).I
stumbled on some dissident views from Nobel prize winning scientists.
After reading there views I confirmed them in the western journals by what
they studied and by what they insisted on not studying (like placebo
arms).I have seen the high chance of false positive tests being mentioned
in published work yet have yet to hear the same thing from a MD or news
caster. I have seen the AIDS definition changed and the CDC's #'s cooked
too many times to count. I have seen starving Africans with polluted water
treated with condoms and chemotherapy. I followed a trail of dirty money
that has infiltrated our government and our scientific journals to the
point of genocide.
 I am posting here because the American people are being led by the nose
by mass media that the dirty money pours into everyday to control.
 I love you America please wake up and smell the corporate greed that
knows no limit to evil
wilyretrovirus - 30 Sep 2005 14:09 GMT
"For HIV-positive people, AIDS dissidency promises a secular kind of
salvation: long life."

For those reading this, take special note.  This is JUST the thing the
apologists constantly take away from you, the idea that you can live a
long life.  

Yes, David, I agree.  AIDS dissidents see the possibility of living a
long, healthy life, without "AIDS" drugs, and without the boogeyman of
"HIV" just waiting to take us.

"HIV-positive dissidents congregate in dissident
forums where, like church goers, they receive social reassurance from
being surrounded by like-minded people."

Yep.  Sure do.  

Boy, that sounds absolutely terrible...like-minded people getting together
and supporting each other.  David, I think you're ON to something here!

David, I basically agree with the above statments, but of course, not the
intended cheesy religious aspect you're trying to work into it.

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