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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / October 2005HIV and Chickens
Kind of an odd question. A buddy of mine has HIV and takes meds. His viral load is undetectable and other than nausea from his meds he is healthy Recently his uncle started to raise eggs as a sideline and he moved out to help build the hen house and get the hens etc and he will help with the day to day running of the hen house. But I always here stories about how viruses and the flu virus is transmitted an mutated thru chickens. SARS for example supposedly started with chickens in Asia. Are there any dangerous for HIV people working with chickens <Gymdandy@webtv.net> wrote... > Kind of an odd question. A buddy of mine has HIV and takes meds. His > viral load is undetectable and other than nausea from his meds he is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Are there any dangerous for HIV people working with chickens Life is dangerous for people with HIV. For example, the West Nile virus just hit the Bay Area and while it is relatively harmless to humans, people with HIV have a greater chance of getting ill from it so it is just the absolute focal point of attention for the local media. The most dangerous thing I can think of is that your friend f.cks the chickens and injects them with HIV with then recombines with various flu and other viruses, and mutates to create an airborne virus that causes AIDS. Or f.cking isn't necessary, he could easily inhale a chicken virus and it would recombine with his HIV to produce the same result. To top it off, the antiviral drugs he takes could easily produce otherwise normal flu viruses immune to the drugs and thus negate our emergency stockpiles of antivirals for flu epidemics. Thank you Phillip Dude if you are not already I see a very bright future for you as an AIDS scientist you F***ing Rock!! I see the Phillip theory "WE ALL HAVE AIDS AND SO DO YOU" having great marketing potential > Kind of an odd question. A buddy of mine has HIV and takes meds. His > viral load is undetectable and other than nausea from his meds he is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > transmitted an mutated thru chickens. SARS for example supposedly > started with chickens in Asia. It is not all that clear that invluenza viruses (human invluenza A, human influenza B, avian influenza, porcine influenza, etc) can really pass from chickens to humans and create a human epidemic. It is a theory that has not yet (and hopefully will not be soon) been proven. It is enough of a worry that for example the current avian influenza, the H5N1 serotype, that it probably is reasonable to kill flocks of chickens, ducks, and other domestic birds that are infected with the H5N1 influenza. Several humans have died from the H5N1 virus, but it is not yet proven if they each got it directly from birds, or if it has ever passed from one human to another human. The SARS coronavirus is not from birds at all, let alone chickens. Coronaviruses quite similar to the SARS coronavirus were found in some civet cats in Asia, but it is possible the civets got it from humans rather than visa versa. The true natural host of the SARS cornonavirus is not definitively proven, and lets hope it never is; that we never see this particular virus again. > Are there any dangerous for HIV people working with chickens People with severely compromised immune systems can get some infections that people with normal immune systms will not get. But if your friend has been treated it is quite possible that his immune system remains very healthy. There is no danger to the chickens, regardless. The danger to your friend is nothing if his immune system is still active (good CD4 count etc), but he could be at risk of some infections from chickens. > The SARS coronavirus is not from birds at all, let alone chickens. > Coronaviruses quite similar to the SARS coronavirus were found in some > civet cats in Asia, but it is possible the civets got it from humans > rather than visa versa. The true natural host of the SARS cornonavirus > is not definitively proven, and lets hope it never is; that we never > see this particular virus again. How soon things change! It looks like the (or at least a) natural host for the SARS coronavirses has been pretty well proven to be bats: Normile D. Virology. Researchers tie deadly SARS virus to bats. Science. 2005 Sep 30;309(5744):2154-5. PMID: 16195440 Li W, Shi Z, Yu M, Ren W, Smith C, Epstein JH, Wang H, Crameri G, Hu Z, Zhang H, Zhang J, McEachern J, Field H, Daszak P, Eaton BT, Zhang S, Wang LF. Bats Are Natural Reservoirs of SARS-Like Coronaviruses. Science. 2005 Sep 29; PMID: 16195424 Lau SK, Woo PC, Li KS, Huang Y, Tsoi HW, Wong BH, Wong SS, Leung SY, Chan KH, Yuen KY. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-like virus in Chinese horseshoe bats. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2005 Sep 27;102(39):14040-14045. PMID: 16169905 Poon LL, Chu DK, Chan KH, Wong OK, Ellis TM, Leung YH, Lau SK, Woo PC, Suen KY, Yuen KY, Guan Y, Peiris JS. Identification of a novel coronavirus in bats. J Virol. 2005 Feb;79(4):2001-9. PMID: 15681402 > Kind of an odd question. A buddy of mine has HIV and takes meds. His > viral load is undetectable and other than nausea from his meds he is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > transmitted an mutated thru chickens. SARS for example supposedly > started with chickens in Asia. I don't know but SV40 comes to mind. This "discussion" has me flabbergasted. The only comment I can add is: "Hahahahahahahaha!" |
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