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GMCarter - 11 Sep 2005 20:36 GMT
To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
from pharmaceutical or nutriceutical companies.
Satan - 12 Sep 2005 00:14 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote...
> To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
> from pharmaceutical or nutriceutical companies.

But does it ACCEPT funds offered by those companies?  I don't
even know what FIAR is nor do I care.
GMCarter - 12 Sep 2005 00:20 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote...
>> To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
>> from pharmaceutical or nutriceutical companies.
>
>But does it ACCEPT funds offered by those companies?  

No.

>I don't even know what FIAR is nor do I care.

Then why do you ask?
AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 14:49 GMT
>>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote...
>>> To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>No.

Carter won't disclose his funding sources.

No matter, a little detective work seems to have pointed us in
the right direction. Stay tuned...

>>I don't even know what FIAR is nor do I care.
>
>Then why do you ask?

George "Conman" Carter's FIAR web site:

     Foundation for Integrative AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212

http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html

FIAR: Foundation for Integrative AIDS Research contact information

     Please consider making a donation!
           
     Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click
     above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your
     donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a
     new account through your email  address and send and receive
     funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover,
     American Express, debit card or checking transfers
     are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to
     your email address.

     FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out
     to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and
     ideas for clinical  studies. FIAR may be reached in the
     following ways:
     
     Mail:
     Foundation for Integrative AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212
AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 14:46 GMT
>To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
>from pharmaceutical or nutriceutical companies.

Since George "Conman" Carter refuses to disclose the
source of his money (e.g. "donations" to his non-profit FIAR),
and given his sordid history here and elsewhere, we must
assume that the truth is other than what he proclaims.

Perhaps we will soon know the truth ... stay tuned.
Satan - 12 Sep 2005 18:06 GMT
"AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...

>>To avoid conflicts of interest, FIAR does not solicit funds
>>from pharmaceutical or nutriceutical companies.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Perhaps we will soon know the truth ... stay tuned.

The site makes reference to it being a "501(c)(3) not-for profit"
so what is the law regarding donors' names being part of the
public record?
Brian Mailman - 12 Sep 2005 19:00 GMT
> "AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> so what is the law regarding donors' names being part of the
> public record?

Well, Diablo ol' chap... 501(c)(3)s usually don't have to disclose their
donors' names to the public, in fact, donors may request total anonymity
so that their names/addresses are not sold/given to other nonprofits.
Major donors' names are given to the IRS, but that's not public record.

Some donors' names *may* appear on what's called a Form 990, which is a
public record.  You can look up FIAR on http://www.guidestar.org, as you
can any nonprofit you're interested in.

B/
AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 20:01 GMT
>> "AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>so that their names/addresses are not sold/given to other nonprofits.
>Major donors' names are given to the IRS, but that's not public record.

George M. Carter professes to be here to help and inform. He
claims to help AIDS victims through his "nonprofit" organization.
Yet he suddenly becomes silent when he is asked to account for
the funds that donors generously provide to him.

This is the Martin Delaney / Project Inform model of AIDS
nonprofit anti-accountability. And, by the way, Delaney is on FIAR's
Board of Directors.

It should be no surprise that Delaney and Carter are both
HIV-negative.

>Some donors' names *may* appear on what's called a Form 990, which is a
>public record.  You can look up FIAR on http://www.guidestar.org, as you
>can any nonprofit you're interested in.
>
>B/
Satan - 12 Sep 2005 21:25 GMT
"AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...
>>> The site makes reference to it being a "501(c)(3) not-for profit"
>>> so what is the law regarding donors' names being part of the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> It should be no surprise that Delaney and Carter are both
> HIV-negative.

I'm inclined to agree with you, AZT Murder.  For over 20 years I've
watched a megabillion dollar industry spring up around HIV/AIDS.
Aside from the cost of the expensive HIV drugs, it seems that much
if not most of the money is going for useless things like "education"
and "counselors" and a whole lot of other stuff that has nothing to
do with medical treatment.  I'm certain a lot of the money raised
by private "non-profit" organizations like GMCarter's goes to lobby
the government for more public spending on HIV, it does not go to
combat HIV directly, and in the process the directors and employees
of such "non-profit" organizations DO make a profit in terms of
their salaries.  It is rather easy to take any profitable enterprise
and make it "non-profit" simply by increasing salaries until the
difference between revenues and expenses drops to zero.

Since I'm Satan this week, here's a quote about psychic vampires by
the founder of the Church of Satan:

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"Every fund raising organization, be it a charitable foundation,
community council, religious or fraternal association, etc.,
carefully selects a person who is adept at making others feel
guilty for its chairman or coordinator.  It is the job of this
chairman to intimidate us into opening first our hearts, and
then our wallets, to the recipients of their 'good will,' never
mentioning that, in many cases, THEIR time is not unselfishly
donated, but that they are drawing a fat salary for their 'noble
deeds.'  They are masters at playing upon the sympathy and
consideration of responsible people."
-- Anton LaVey; "The Satanic Bible"
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AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 23:12 GMT
>"AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...
>>>> The site makes reference to it being a "501(c)(3) not-for profit"
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>-- Anton LaVey; "The Satanic Bible"
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

Beautiful ...
GMCarter - 12 Sep 2005 21:31 GMT
>George M. Carter professes to be here to help and inform. He
>claims to help AIDS victims through his "nonprofit" organization.
>Yet he suddenly becomes silent when he is asked to account for
>the funds that donors generously provide to him.

Not at all. You accused me of being a liar in another post. So why
bother?

I've stated it quite specifically: FIAR does not and has not received
funding from pharma or nutriceutical companies.

Our funding has been through private donations (individuals) for the
most part. And it has been minimal. So no, dear, there's no smoking
gun here--or anywhere.

You will no doubt continue to make your ridiculous accusations,
misrepresent the organization's name, and otherwise continue to be a
vicious person--a state of mind and being you apparently enjoy living
with!

So knock yourself out.

        George M. Carter
AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 23:20 GMT
>>George M. Carter professes to be here to help and inform. He
>>claims to help AIDS victims through his "nonprofit" organization.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Not at all. You accused me of being a liar in another post. So why
>bother?

So you bother to remain silent.

>I've stated it quite specifically: FIAR does not and has not received
>funding from pharma or nutriceutical companies.

Nothing said above about pharma - and you know it, Mr. Carter.

>Our funding has been through private donations (individuals) for the
>most part. And it has been minimal.

How much is "minimal" to you?

And given your repeated habit of dodging the question,
how can we be sure that "individuals" aren't corporate
"individuals"?

>You will no doubt continue to make your ridiculous accusations,

I will no doubt continue to delve into yet another outrageous
misdirection of resources to yet another trivial pursuit, at best.

>misrepresent the organization's name

Nothing misrepresented in your "Frod" organization that you
haven't misrepresented.

>and otherwise continue to be a vicious person

In dealing with an HIV-negative sycophant like Carter, being
called "vicious" is a  true measure of success!
GMCarter - 12 Sep 2005 23:23 GMT
snip
>Nothing said above about pharma - and you know it, Mr. Carter.

Yet another lie.
AZT Murder - 12 Sep 2005 23:29 GMT
>snip
>>Nothing said above about pharma - and you know it, Mr. Carter.
>
>Yet another lie.

So Carter snips the statement out in another classic Carter lie.
AZT Murder - 13 Sep 2005 00:00 GMT
>"AZT Murder" <redrumtza@alltel.net> wrote...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>so what is the law regarding donors' names being part of the
>public record?

While I cannot answer that accurately at this point, the actual
point I am making is to establish that George Carter has repeatedly
asserted here (and in his 501 (c) (3) Public Charity filings) that
his organization FIAR was established to benefit people with AIDS.
Carter's web site also claims that FIAR does not take pharma money.

Since Carter doesn't have AIDS (nor HIV, according to him), then
I believe he is obligated to disclose (1) how much money he gets,
(2) who gives him that money, and (3) how is that money spent
to benefit people with AIDS (that is, people other than himself).

So far, Mr. Carter seems to have turned deaf-mute on all
three of his obligations. When Carter DOES answer, he is simply
evasive, as you can see in his posts today.

That is outrageously irresponsible and dishonest for someone who
asks for tax deductible charitable donations in the name of people
with AIDS.

Meanwhile, certain comments on Carter's FIAR website suggest
that he is spending the money on himself (trips to India, Nepal, etc -
and you can bet this Charity Queen  is traveling first-class).  

Indeed, the filings by Carter for FIAR state that the funds will be
used

   "for unrestricted operating expenses and special projects"
 
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