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Conman Carter's Quackwatch Adventure

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AZT Murder - 07 Sep 2005 17:08 GMT
A quote from a George M. Carter post:

  [Ip-health] Re: TAC Statements on Traditional Healers,
  THO Demonstrations and Matthias Rath
  George M. Carter fiar@verizon.net
  Tue Nov 30 10:18:27 2004

 " Too often, the polemics of "alternative" "versus" allopathic have
  been framed by the extremists. On the allopath side, extremists
  include those who simply dismiss any natural medicine as either  
  worthless or harmful."

 " Quackwatch leaps to mind as an example of the worst of
   that bigotry"

Interestingly, Conman Carter had a rather nasty encounter
with one of the psychiatrists involved in Quackwatch.

Of course, it is obvious why Conman finds psychiatrists
so reprehensible.
Susie - 07 Sep 2005 17:11 GMT
>A quote from a George M. Carter post:
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Of course, it is obvious why Conman finds psychiatrists
> so reprehensible.

LOL! Just imagine Conman sitting on a psychiatrist's couch as he
recites one boogeyman litany upon another.

But as you know, Conman will NEVER walk into a psychiatrist's
office ... at least not without a police escort.

Susie
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 17:23 GMT
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:08:43 -0400, AZT Murder <redrumtza@alltel.net>
wrote:

Then...

Frod....try a little harder. 3 minutes?
Susie - 07 Sep 2005 18:13 GMT
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:08:43 -0400, AZT Murder <redrumtza@alltel.net>
> wrote:
>
> Then...
>
> Frod....try a little harder. 3 minutes?

Gee, Conman ... we're not only in the same timezone, but now you
are wondering if I might be as close as your closet, which is
obviously pregnant with boogeymen, such as Fred, Frod and
Charlie, all of whom, as you know, live in California.

Susie
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 18:26 GMT
snip
>Gee, Conman ... we're not only in the same timezone, but now you
>are wondering if I might be as close as your closet, which is
>obviously pregnant with boogeymen, such as Fred, Frod and
>Charlie, all of whom, as you know, live in California.

Oh really? We are? A time stamp could never be altered.

Well, Gosh Susie, wanna meet for Coffee? Where are you? Who are you?
Oh, we're just SO excited to have you here with us!
AZT Murder - 07 Sep 2005 18:45 GMT
>snip
>>Gee, Conman ... we're not only in the same timezone, but now you
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Oh really? We are? A time stamp could never be altered.

Of course, Conman Carter knows all about altering email, timestamps
and other such things ...

>Well, Gosh Susie, wanna meet for Coffee? Where are you? Who are you?
>Oh, we're just SO excited to have you here with us!

Coffee seems to be a wonderful source of antioxidants
(see my post).

Next thing you know, Conman Carter will be a shill for the
coffee industry (something he has a "NAC" for, if you
get my drift!).
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 18:49 GMT
>Of course, Carter knows all about altering email, timestamps
>and other such things ...

Actually, I have no idea HOW to do it, just that it can be done. Could
you teach me?

You're so brilliant!
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 19:06 GMT
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Susie - 07 Sep 2005 20:15 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

<silly headers posted>

LOL! Gee, Conman - you really ARE stupid!

So what if AZT Murder and I have the exact same ISP?

You and "Gary Stein" have the exact same ISP too!

Thus by your own logic, you and Gary Stein are one and
the same, except that "Stein" is your HIV+ alter-ego.

What I find so delightful about this is how your paranoia
will seek only those facts which confirm that you must
be the victim of some boogeyman conspiracy...

Susie
GMCarter - 08 Sep 2005 00:21 GMT
snip...
>So what if AZT Murder and I have the exact same ISP?

Oh, Fred. You aren't fooling anyone.
Susie - 08 Sep 2005 15:16 GMT
> snip...
>>So what if AZT Murder and I have the exact same ISP?
>
> Oh, Fred. You aren't fooling anyone.

Oh Conman-Swine-Canzi-Mailman - you CERTAINLY haven't fooled anyone.

Get a REAL JOB!
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 01:55 GMT
>> snip...
>>>So what if AZT Murder and I have the exact same ISP?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Get a REAL JOB!

LOL !!!
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 01:55 GMT
>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Thus by your own logic, you and Gary Stein are one and
>the same, except that "Stein" is your HIV+ alter-ego.

Could it be?

It all makes sense now ...  first this, and then to find
out about Frod's International AIDS Research?

I don't know if I could take it!

LOL!!!
GMCarter - 10 Sep 2005 11:56 GMT
snip
>Could it be?

Could it be? Frod Show is talking to himself again.

It is a tired tactic, frod, to accuse others of precisely what you are
doing. One you picked up from Rove School, I imagine.

        George M. Carter
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 13:54 GMT
>snip
>>Could it be?
>
>Could it be? Frod Show

Yes it could and here it is -- FIAR -  the Greatest Frod Show on Earth

(please donate to Frod, and keep thinking "fraud"):

Frod's FIAR model of AIDS treatment for the Third World:

  FIAR AND FAIR TRADE

  In developing countries, the FIAR model combines treatment and    
  prevention programs. This will include, as needed, condom, lube and
  safer sex information, access to traditional medicine, clinical
  evaluation of traditional medicines, along with access to ARV
  therapy and treatment for opportunistic infections.

So please, help feed Frod ... go to:

http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html

FIAR: Frod's International AIDS Research contact information

     Please consider making a donation!
           
     Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click
     above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your
     donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a
     new account through your email  address and send and receive
     funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover,
     American Express, debit card or checking transfers
     are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to
     your email address.

     FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out
     to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and
     ideas for clinical  studies. FIAR may be reached in the
     following ways:
     
     Mail:
     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212
GMCarter - 10 Sep 2005 14:08 GMT
>>snip
>>>Could it be?
>>
>>Could it be? Frod Show

Frod Show = Fred Shaw.

So who are you? Afraid to sign your own name?
Coward.
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 15:05 GMT
>>>snip
>>>>Could it be?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>So who are you?

Frod Show... of course!

George "Conman" Carter sponsors a true Frod Show, a cowardly
bully pulpit turned Paypal Welfare Queen operation....

(please donate to Frod, and keep thinking "fraud"):

Frod's FIAR model of AIDS treatment for the Third World:

  FIAR AND FAIR TRADE

  In developing countries, the FIAR model combines treatment and    
  prevention programs. This will include, as needed, condom, lube and
  safer sex information, access to traditional medicine, clinical
  evaluation of traditional medicines, along with access to ARV
  therapy and treatment for opportunistic infections.

So please, help feed Frod ... go to:

http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html

FIAR: Frod's International AIDS Research contact information

     Please consider making a donation!
           
     Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click
     above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your
     donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a
     new account through your email  address and send and receive
     funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover,
     American Express, debit card or checking transfers
     are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to
     your email address.

     FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out
     to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and
     ideas for clinical  studies. FIAR may be reached in the
     following ways:
     
     Mail:
     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212
GMCarter - 10 Sep 2005 15:06 GMT
>>Frod Show = Fred Shaw
>>
>>So who are you?
>
>Frod Show... of course!

So you admit to being Fred Shaw?
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 15:45 GMT
>>>Frod Show = Fred Shaw
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>So you admit to being?

I admit nothing other than what Frod gives us...

     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212

Frod's FIAR model of AIDS treatment for the Third World:

  FIAR AND FAIR TRADE

  In developing countries, the FIAR model combines treatment and    
  prevention programs. This will include, as needed, condom, lube and
  safer sex information, access to traditional medicine, clinical
  evaluation of traditional medicines, along with access to ARV
  therapy and treatment for opportunistic infections.

So please, help feed Frod ... go to:

http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html

FIAR: Frod's International AIDS Research contact information

     Please consider making a donation!
           
     Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click
     above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your
     donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a
     new account through your email  address and send and receive
     funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover,
     American Express, debit card or checking transfers
     are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to
     your email address.

     FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out
     to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and
     ideas for clinical  studies. FIAR may be reached in the
     following ways:
     
     Mail:
     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212
GMCarter - 10 Sep 2005 15:50 GMT
>I admit nothing other than what Frod gives us...

In other words...you're a coward. And a liar who continue to repeat
lies about FIAR.

That is a violation of the terms of service of your ISP.

        George M. Carter
AZT Murder - 10 Sep 2005 16:11 GMT
>>I admit nothing other than what Frod gives us...
>
>In other words...you're a coward. And a liar who continue to repeat
>lies about FIAR.

I tell the truth about Frod, your mantra.

>That is a violation of the terms of service of your ISP.

While George "Conman" Carter is an expert in violating terms
of ISPs, let's cast a little sunshine on the Big Picture (and
yes, the ISPs know how to use Google for a Giggle too!):

Let's see why that might be...

     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212

Frod's FIAR model of AIDS treatment for the Third World:

  FIAR AND FAIR TRADE

  In developing countries, the FIAR model combines treatment and    
  prevention programs. This will include, as needed, condom, lube and
  safer sex information, access to traditional medicine, clinical
  evaluation of traditional medicines, along with access to ARV
  therapy and treatment for opportunistic infections.

So please, help feed Frod ... go to:

http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html

FIAR: Frod's International AIDS Research contact information

     Please consider making a donation!
           
     Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click
     above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your
     donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a
     new account through your email  address and send and receive
     funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover,
     American Express, debit card or checking transfers
     are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to
     your email address.

     FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out
     to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and
     ideas for clinical  studies. FIAR may be reached in the
     following ways:
     
     Mail:
     Frod's Internantional AIDS Research (FIAR)
     Attn: George M. Carter, Director
     62 Sterling Place, Suite 2
     Brooklyn, NY 11217
     Telephone: 718-622-0212
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 19:16 GMT
Fredlet, dear:

From the Terms of Service,
http://www.usenetserver.com/terms.html
Each Customer further agrees not to use the Services to do any of the
following:

Upload, post, e-mail, transmit or otherwise make available any content
that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, malicious, abusive, harassing,
tortuous, defamatory, libelous, invasive of privacy, or racially,
ethnically or otherwise objectionable; Impersonate any other person or
entity;
Susie - 07 Sep 2005 20:10 GMT
> Fredlet, dear:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> ethnically or otherwise objectionable; Impersonate any other person or
> entity;

Gee, Conman - while this has nothing to do with me, it is obvious
that your tampon string is on fire!

LOL ... Susie.
GMCarter - 08 Sep 2005 00:22 GMT
snip
>Gee, Conman - while this has nothing to do with me, it is obvious
>that your tampon string is on fire!

LOL....that is SUCH a quintessentially a Frod Show comment.
Susie - 08 Sep 2005 15:17 GMT
> snip
>>Gee, Conman - while this has nothing to do with me, it is obvious
>>that your tampon string is on fire!
>
> LOL....that is SUCH a quintessentially a Frod Show comment.

Conman - get a REAL job!
AZT Murder - 07 Sep 2005 18:46 GMT
>snip
>>Gee, Conman ... we're not only in the same timezone, but now you
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Oh really? We are? A time stamp could never be altered.

Of course, Conman Carter knows all about altering email, timestamps
and other such things ...

>Well, Gosh Susie, wanna meet for Coffee? Where are you? Who are you?
>Oh, we're just SO excited to have you here with us!

Coffee seems to be a wonderful source of antioxidants
(see my post).

Next thing you know, Conman Carter will be a shill for the
coffee industry (something he has a "NAC" for, if you
get my drift!).
Susie - 07 Sep 2005 20:07 GMT
> snip
>>Gee, Conman ... we're not only in the same timezone, but now you
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Well, Gosh Susie, wanna meet for Coffee? Where are you? Who are you?
> Oh, we're just SO excited to have you here with us!

Keep your panties on and be nice ... you never know what might
happen, sweetie.

Susie
GMCarter - 07 Sep 2005 17:21 GMT
>A quote from a George M. Carter post:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Interestingly, Conman Carter had a rather nasty encounter
>with one of the psychiatrists involved in Quackwatch.

Who is Conman Carter?

Nasty encounter? With whom?

What ever are you dithering about now, Frod?

>Of course, it is obvious why Conman finds psychiatrists
>so reprehensible.

That's your words, Fred. Maybe Conman doesn't like psychiatrists.

I don't mind them. Some are good. Some are bad.

Indeed, I hope you find a good one!

        George M. Carter
Susie - 07 Sep 2005 18:08 GMT
> Who is Conman Carter?

Gee, Conman, are you feeling like maybe you might be your
own boogeyman?

>>Of course, it is obvious why Conman finds psychiatrists
>>so reprehensible.
>
> That's your words, Fred. Maybe Conman doesn't like psychiatrists.

Susie likes psychiatrists. Another reason for Conman's
boogeymen.

LOL ... Susie
 
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