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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / September 2005Frod Show's Perverse History
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:39:23 -0700, redr...@alltel.net wrote: >On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:34:19 GMT, GMCarter <f...@verizon.net> wrote: >>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:15:04 -0700, redr...@alltel.net wrote: >>At least I am not ashamed of my past! >>LOL. I have NEVER claimed that any supplement, drug or intervention >>cured anything. >LOL, indeed! >>I have never been an employee or distributor of Arkopharma's products. >A f.cking outrageous lie, which is proven by the embarassments of >POZ magazine ads authored by The Liar Himself, Mr. George Carter. I never authored any ads for Poz magazine of any kind. You are lying. >>I was happy to work with DAAIR and now with NYBC, both non-profit >>organizations that make boxwood extract available. >Alas, an admission! LOL. Not in the slightest. >>Ah, there's no evidence that SPV-30 is "immunosuppressive" in humans. >Mr. Carter was made fully aware that Boxwood extracts were NOTHING BUT >immunosuppressive steroids. What? Nonsense. You waved your hands around, mentioned some constituents and then provided no evidence whatsoever for immune suppression. Indeed, the clinical trial showed some modest stabilization or increase in CD4. >Carter continued to promote this steroidal therapy as a magical cure >for AIDS. Oh, dear, Frod, you're lying again. >Murderer! If you have evidence, call the authorities and present it to them. Go for it, Frod. >>The study by Pasteur Institute study showed some modest effect on >>progression when it is used as a monotherapy. No problems arose from >>its use. >Murderer Carter cannot cite a single survivor from its use. >Dead, they are. All of them. I can name several folks that have and some who continue to use boxwood but it's not my place to igive lists of names. Nor does it mean that the boxwood extract is the reason they are alive. >>While it's kind of you to give me all the credit for SPV-30's >>introduction into the US, I had virtually nothing to do with that. >Liar. Carter was paid by Arkopharma to promote this failed and >deadly therapy - and Carter admitted as much! No, I was not and no, I never "admitted" anything of the sort. What I did do was disclose the extent that they PARTIALLY subsidized a visit to their factory. And I was accompanied by two activist friends, both living with HIV, both still alive, both of whom (among many others) who were interested in evaluating the claims about this botanical. What I was MOST happy with in that experience was that they were showing that the then popular notion that you could never clinically evaluate a botanical intervention was a ridiculous. They did. The results were modest at the standard dosage. (A higher dosage was no different than placebo). This was an important study and I'm very glad I was involved in my own small way. Of course, this all happened in the mid-90s, and this is the best frodlet can manage in his kind of pathetic attempt at a smear campaign. >>Some good friends of mine did a LOT more work in that area, including >>a large, open-label study (with all the caveats associated with that). >>It's efficacy is nominal but certainly, there were no signs of >>toxicity. >Pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT. >THIS CRAP WAS DEADLY AND CARTER PROFITED FROM IT!!!!! Honey, you're gonna give yourself a stroke! SPV-30 was NEVER deadly in the slightest. And I never "profited" from it. >>>And remember that psychiatrist that drew the bead on >>>you for your sociopathic activities on the intenet? >>LOL >LOL nothing. Does the name Dr. Barrett, M.D. sound familiar? Yes. He's an idiot. snipping more infantile, fixated name calling.... George M. Carter Typical froldet histrionics, and rather pathetic. Fact is, Frod's closet is stuffed full of ugly, decomposing skeletons of his sociopathic, megalomaniacal and horrific past. What next, Mr. Shaw? Care to disclose your past as an alcoholic as you have previously published here and elsewhere? At least I am not ashamed of my past! I know Bruce and the courts found him not guilty since he was set up. >How about your close encounters with the FDA over your >seemingly endless "nutritional supplement cure" scams? LOL. I have NEVER claimed that any supplement, drug or intervention cured anything. By contrast, you claim DNCB cures AIDS, apparently. >Your employment and distributor activities with Arkopharma >France I have never been an employee or distributor of Arkopharma's products. I was happy to work with DAAIR and now with NYBC, both non-profit organizations that make boxwood extract available. >in the promotion and sale in the U.S. of SPV-30, an >immunosuppressive and unproven "treatment" for what >even you purported to be a disease of immune suppression? Ah, there's no evidence that SPV-30 is "immunosuppressive" in humans. The study by Pasteur Institute study showed some modest effect on progression when it is used as a monotherapy. No problems arose from its use. While it's kind of you to give me all the credit for SPV-30's introduction into the US, I had virtually nothing to do with that. Some good friends of mine did a LOT more work in that area, including a large, open-label study (with all the caveats associated with that). It's efficacy is nominal but certainly, there were no signs of toxicity. >And remember that psychiatrist that drew the bead on >you for your sociopathic activities on the intenet? LOL. Nope but I remember you being pretty sociopathic. Sorta like now. Too bad. I thought maybe you'd grown up and calmed down or moved on to something more useful in this short life. >Only a sociopath of Carter's sorry ilk could live and thrive on >the knowledge that he has contributed to the early >death of many gay men who were HIV-positive and >vulnerable to Carter's treatment scams. I have no "treatments" and thus no "scams" to offer. By contrast, you appear to believe DNCB is the cure for AIDS and hawk that fiercely. Sorry I just don't think it's all that great. And by contrast, as someone who has denigrated the value of antiretroviral therapy, to the extent you have dissuaded people from seeking proper treatment, you have caused suffering and death. And you're the one who claimed to be a Lic. Ac. God knows how many poor sods you stabbed willy nilly and tried to pass it off as "treatment"! >And there is SO much more ... Indeed. I still hold hope you may find peace in your heart but at this point, seems pretty unlikely. >So, Mr. Carter, Plaintiff ... LET'S GO! Carry on, Frodlet! George M. Carter > Care to disclose your past as an alcoholic as you > have previously published here and elsewhere? > At least I am not ashamed of my past! According to information I have, George M. Carter has not only admitted to being an alcoholic, but also being a heroin addict. Carter has openly admitted his addiction to heroin on this newsgroup. True to Conman Carter's sociopathic activities and paranoid ravings about all the boogeymen after him, it is no surprise that he is unashamed about his drug addiction - I have yet to meet a psychotic who has shame about anything! >>How about your close encounters with the FDA over your >>seemingly endless "nutritional supplement cure" scams? > > LOL. I have NEVER claimed that any supplement, drug or intervention > cured anything. Isn't Conman Carter cute in the way he dodges the question? >>Your employment and distributor activities with Arkopharma >>France > > I have never been an employee or distributor of Arkopharma's products. This, in fact, is a blatant lie. Carter WAS paid to promote SPV-30. But that pales in comparison to Carter's other financial dealings with Pharma. > I was happy to work with DAAIR and now with NYBC, both non-profit > organizations that make boxwood extract available. For Conman, Happy = $$$ > While it's kind of you to give me all the credit for SPV-30's > introduction into the US, I had virtually nothing to do with that. So Arkopharma paid for Carter's trip to Europe ... simply because they liked him. NOT! > Some good friends of mine did a LOT more work in that area 1. Conman admits to working for the benefit of Arkopharma. 2. Arkopharma paid for Carter's roundtrip to France. 3. It doesn't a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on here. >>And remember that psychiatrist that drew the bead on >>you for your sociopathic activities on the intenet? > > LOL. Nope Conman Carter wasn't laughing when he stumbled into the hornet's nest known as "Quackwatch". Gee, I guess why they were watching Conman? >>Only a sociopath of Carter's sorry ilk could live and thrive on >>the knowledge that he has contributed to the early >>death of many gay men who were HIV-positive and >>vulnerable to Carter's treatment scams. So true. And now Conman Carter the Racist is busying himself with various scams involving Third World countries. > I have no "treatments" and thus no "scams" to offer. This LIE is going to bite Conman in the a.s. <snipped paranoid boogeyman ramblings> snip >Carter WAS paid to promote SPV-30. Attack the messenger, eh dear? And offer nothing substantive. Mr. Shaw, the tactic isn't even working for Karl Rove any more. As to this comment, no, I was not ever paid by Arkopharma to promote anything. I have never been in their employ. As I had mentioned previously, three of us went on a trip to a conference in Rennes and as well to a visit at their office in Nice. Arkopharma subsidized only a portion of that trip. I made that clear in my original reports some 10+ years ago! LOL. Frod, get a life. George M. Carter > snip >> >>Carter WAS paid to promote SPV-30. > > Attack the messenger, eh dear? Hey Conman - YOU started this thread !!!! > As to this comment, no, I was not ever paid by Arkopharma to promote > anything. I have never been in their employ. And you haven't answered the question: Have you ever received cash, trips, plane tickets or ANY other perks from Arkopharma??? > As I had mentioned previously, three of us went on a trip to a > conference in Rennes and as well to a visit at their office in Nice. > Arkopharma subsidized only a portion of that trip. Ah yes. Thank you for admitting that you received perks from Arkopharma. And just look how much noise you had to make before you admitted it! LOL ... Susie snip... >> As I had mentioned previously, three of us went on a trip to a >> conference in Rennes and as well to a visit at their office in Nice. >> Arkopharma subsidized only a portion of that trip. > >Ah yes. Thank you for admitting that you received perks from >Arkopharma. Yep. Never made any bones about it. And that's the sum total of it. Carry on, Frod. George M. Carter > snip... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yep. Never made any bones about it. And that's the sum total of it. Finally, Conman Carter cuts through his own mountain of bullshit and noise to ADMIT he has BEEN PAID by Arkopharma France! Hopefully, as we move on, Mr. Conman will be a bit more forthcoming about his many OTHER financial involvements involving drugs, herbs, supplements, etc. But I doubt it. Susie snip >Finally, Conman Carter cuts through his own mountain of bullshit >and noise to ADMIT he has BEEN PAID by Arkopharma France! LOL. No, I did not. I said that part of a trip was subsidized. That is not income or payment. It did not even come to me directly as it was part of a project with DAAIR. And I accompanied two other people on the trip. So, nope. Never been paid by Arkopharma. George M. Carter > snip >>Finally, Conman Carter cuts through his own mountain of bullshit >>and noise to ADMIT he has BEEN PAID by Arkopharma France! > > LOL. No, I did not. I said that part of a trip was subsidized. That is > not income or payment. LOL!!! There's that mountain of bullshit again! Conman Carter's twisting and squirming isn't buying him any credibility, but that's nothing new - that's what makes him Conman Carter. "Subsidized" trips, or whatever, the definition of "subsidized" centers around the single object known as MONEY. And that's were Conman Carter gets derailed ... by his own lies and bullshit. Susie snip... >"Subsidized" trips, or whatever, the definition of "subsidized" centers >around the single object known as MONEY. So? That's not how income is defined, of course. I'd say you were the one with the mountain of bullshit. All your posts are centered on me! Gosh, how flattering! (And a few swipes at Gary and David.) Only one post about antioxidants in coffee. So you've got nothing left in your intellectual repertoire but to play lil Karl Rove? Damn. What a miserable way to spend your waning days, Fred. Best of luck in healing--but after these years? I fear this chronic obsession is something you'll die with. George M. Carter > snip... >>"Subsidized" trips, or whatever, the definition of "subsidized" centers >>around the single object known as MONEY. > > So? That's not how income is defined, of course. Puh-leeze! MOST people don't BEG for "subsidies"! Except for our resident welfare recipient, Conman Carter. That's because Conman can't get a REAL JOB! But nonetheless, this is a standard Conman Carter reply - let's take another look at the original message Conman was answering, just to see how Conman's welfare mentality operates.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie" <nomail@please.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.aids Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Conman Carter's Perverse History >> snip >>>Finally, Conman Carter cuts through his own mountain of bullshit [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Susie >Puh-leeze! MOST people don't BEG for "subsidies"! What a ridiculous notion! There are many non-profit organizations that seek funding from donations from private citizens, other foundations, government grants, corporate support. Yep, it can be viewed as begging. To support a mission that people believe in. >Except for our resident welfare recipient, Conman Carter. I am not currently on welfare. There is no shame in being on welfare. I believe welfare is an important and useful program. >That's because Conman can't get a REAL JOB! What is that? Do you have one? What is it? >But nonetheless, this is a standard Conman Carter reply - let's take >another look at the original message Conman was answering, just >to see how Conman's welfare mentality operates.... Repeating the nonsense doesn't render it any more sage, Fred. George M. Carter >>Puh-leeze! MOST people don't BEG for "subsidies"! > > What a ridiculous notion! . > > Yep, it can be viewed as begging. Conman loves the spin and the bullshit! >>Except for our resident welfare recipient, Conman Carter. > > I am not currently on welfare. You are a begger. You admit that. >>That's because Conman can't get a REAL JOB! > > What is that? Obviously, a real job has always been a foreign concept for Conman. >Obviously, a real job has always been a foreign concept for Conman. Clearly, you can't define it. You don't have one? >>That's because Conman can't get a REAL JOB! > >>> What is that? >>Obviously, a real job has always been a foreign concept for Conman. > >Clearly, you can't define it. Clearly, you never understood it ... never had one! LOL!!! No matter, George "Conman" Carter NEEDS your donations for his organization FIAR ("Frod's International AIDS Research"), so please be generous: go to: http://www.aidsinfonyc.org/fiar/contact.html FIAR: Frod's International AIDS Research contact information Please consider making a donation! Your donation can be made easy and secure through Paypal. Click above to go to your existing Paypal account and send your donation now. If you are new to Paypal, click below to create a new account through your email address and send and receive funds securely anywhere, anytime! Visa, Mastercard, Discover, American Express, debit card or checking transfers are all accepted. Upon completion, a receipt will be sent to your email address. FIAR also welcomes donations by cheque or money order made out to FIAR - as well as your thoughts, letters, suggestions and ideas for clinical studies. FIAR may be reached in the following ways: Mail: Frod's International AIDS Research (FIAR) Attn: George M. Carter, Director 62 Sterling Place, Suite 2 Brooklyn, NY 11217 Telephone: 718-622-0212 snip... >Clearly, you never understood it ... never had one! Hard to say--the phrase "real job" is somewhat vague. >snip... >>Clearly, you never understood it ... never had one! > >Hard to say--the phrase "real job" is somewhat vague. No Conman, the phrase "real job" could only be vague ... FOR YOU! LOL !!! |
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