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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / September 2005Frod Show's perverse history
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 12:31:58 -0700, redr...@alltel.net wrote: >On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:02:51 GMT, GMCarter <f...@verizon.net> wrote: >>On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 10:57:57 -0700, redr...@alltel.net wrote: >>so you say ALL PRODUCTS of the PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY should >>ALWAYS be avoided and NOTHING GOOD can ever be said about ANYTHING >>they have ever made or will ever make in the future? >Gee, Mr. Carter, I don't think anyone here says that, of course, >other than yourself in yet another hysterical Carter scree. So you DO realize that one can be a critic of the industry without necessarily condemning all its products? Progress, of a sort. >>I am PROUD of my ACT UP friends! (For the most part.) They are and >>were some of the most incredible people I ever met. >By "in-credible", Carter actually means "not credible". Nope. That is not what I mean. I mean they were the kind of human beings you apparently will never be. George M. Carter snip >>I never authored any ads for Poz magazine of any kind. You are lying. >Another Carter bald-faced lie. Nope. >Carter worked for Arkopharma. They paid him and he took their money >and gifts (e.g. expense paid "working" vacation to France). Provide the proof. >In exchange, Carter facilitated the distribution network for SPV-30. Nope. I DID happily and proudly work on making information about SPV-30 available and was happy that people had access to it. There was nothing wrong with it except that it was overpriced. Which I also said at the time. If this is what you call conflicts of interest--well, I can only wonder how much they're paying you to spread these lies, Frodlet! >Carter also worked for POZ magazine, wrote a column and authored the >SPV-30 ads. I wrote several articles for POZ. I did NOT write any ad copy ever. But actually, had I been aske to, I might have done something differently than the company that did that work. >>>>Ah, there's no evidence that SPV-30 is "immunosuppressive" in humans. >>>Mr. Carter was made fully aware that Boxwood extracts were NOTHING BUT >>>immunosuppressive steroids. >>What? Nonsense. You waved your hands around, mentioned some >>constituents and then provided no evidence whatsoever for immune >>suppression. >Over 70 steroidal compounds, each of which was listed on >this newgroup - to the dismay of Arkopharma and their American >gopher, George Carter. LOL. Not in the very slightest! You could list the compounds contained in any number of things--gee, like condoms. The issue is whether that has any clinical relevance. It doesn't! This is where your grasp of science is full of holes, dear. Sorta like your claims that DNCB is non-toxic and harmless. So I wondered if you'd be willing to take a bath in the stuff..... Curiously, you never seemed to want to. Gosh. Why not? >>>Murderer Carter cannot cite a single survivor from its use. >>>Dead, they are. All of them. >>I can name several folks that have and some who continue to use >>boxwood but it's not my place to igive lists of names. >Ah yes, the same standard of proof George Carter demands of others >can never be met by him. Where have I demanded that naming a "single survivor" of anything constitutes a standard of "proof" of anything, frod? That's absurd. >What else could be expected of compulsive liar Carter? So frod, why are you so nasty? Really. What is your motivation? If you're not being paid by pharma--which I believe to be the case--then are you here to help people? Or just to be an ugly troll? I feel sad for your existence. It seems like it is very full of pain and ugliness. I hope you find healing one of these days, guy. Or you'll die and look back and think--gee, I spent my life being such an a.shole. >>What I >>did do was disclose the extent that they PARTIALLY subsidized a visit >>to their factory. >Carter can't seem to make up his mind ... he didn't take money for >his deadly "work" ... but now he admits taking some small pittance. Premise: the work I did caused people to die. The premise is faulty. I did not take money--and when I wrote my report about the journey to Arkopharma's site, I declared exactly what their financial involvement was....pretty damned little, frankly. >Whatever it takes for Carter's psycopathic, megalomaniacal mind to >cope with the ugly reality of death which his actions have visited >upon those with positive HIV tests. What difference would it make unless you believe HIV causes AIDS? Do you believe that? And indeed, there is no evidence that boxwood, even at high doses, causes any side effects, let alone kills people. What KILLS people is telling them to believe HIV does not exist or is harmless...what kills people is telling them to avoid ARV altogether. >>and this is the best frodlet can manage in his kind of pathetic >>attempt at a smear campaign. >Interestingly, when I began posting the truth about Carter 2 >days ago, it was Carter's fear of exposure that led to his >libelous and outrageous accusations of child molestation. Yep. I was just handing you some of your own sh.t, dear. And that's caused you to be quite lively--but as ever, poor dear, full of vitriol. You have always been a help to me, though, in understanding anger. On a spiritual level, I can only say thank you for that--and again, offer you my hope that you'll heal. >A "smear campaign"? That's something Carter knows plenty about! Yes. I've witnessed you attempt to conduct one to little effect. >What else could anyone expect from the pharma boiler rooms >and their paid minions of the Carter-Stein-Canzi-Mailman ilk? LOL. Quintessential frodlet. George M. Carter > snip > >>>I never authored any ads for Poz magazine of any kind. You are lying. > >>Another Carter bald-faced lie. Conman impersonated a medical professional when he authored the column "Dr. Me" for the pharmaceutical industries POZ Magazine during the early years of the HAART (FAART) hype. >>Carter worked for Arkopharma. They paid him and he took their money >>and gifts (e.g. expense paid "working" vacation to France). > > Provide the proof. Conman, do you deny receiving cash, gifts or other perks from Arkopharma?? >>In exchange, Carter facilitated the distribution network for SPV-30. > > Nope. Yup! >I DID happily and proudly work on making information about > SPV-30 available and was happy that people had access to it. Information intended to the sale or use of SPV-30! > There was nothing wrong with it except that it was overpriced. Which I > also said at the time. Indeed Conman offered that opinion - of course, he left out the part about Arkopharma's expenses that had to be recovered - including the perks Conman received. > If this is what you call conflicts of interest--well, I can only > wonder how much they're paying you to spread these lies, Frodlet! Snipped Conman's continued attempts to moderate this newsgroup with his boogeymen. Gee, I see no reason why anyone would forge Conman Carter's email in an attempt to delete yet another embarrassing revelation about Conman. Of course, perhaps Conman is having another psychotic break arising from injecting smack as he sees boogeymen coming out of the walls .... or for that matter, the internet. Susie >>>so you say ALL PRODUCTS of the PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY should >>>ALWAYS be avoided and NOTHING GOOD can ever be said about ANYTHING [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > George M. Carter >Gee, I see no reason why anyone would forge Conman Carter's >email in an attempt to delete yet another embarrassing >revelation about Conman. I do. >>Gee, I see no reason why anyone would forge Conman Carter's >>email in an attempt to delete yet another embarrassing >>revelation about Conman. > > I do. Funny thing is how all of those posts are only embarrassing to you, Conman! Gee ... that's something only a true Conman would do. LOL! Susie >Funny thing is how all of those posts are only embarrassing to >you, Conman! LOL. Giggle. Guffaw!! Heeeeheeeheeeheee.... That's why i reposted them. gosh. >>Funny thing is how all of those posts are only embarrassing to >>you, Conman! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > gosh. Ah yes, the psychosis of boogeymen ... and women. LOL ... Susie |
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