>oke, but still those who turn positive on the "hiv"-test are forst(must
>take) to take the life ending meds!
No one is forced to do anything. Being HIV+ doesn't mean automatically
taking antivirals. Having a low CD4 count (below 350) is a good time
to think about the meds. Then people that take the meds live longer
than if they don't take the meds.
If they don't take the meds, like 95% of people with HIV on the planet
today, they develop AIDS.
And mostly they die. By the millions. Men, women, children....
>the longterm survivors are those who decline taking the meds!
Incorrect. Longterm survivors are people whose T cells don't drop.
MOST people with HIV, over 90%, see their CD4 count drop.
Then they get sick if they don't take medicines. Millions of these
people die every year, thousands every single day.
>if i talk to those who are 'hiv sceptic/dissidents'(denailist you would
>say) are hearinf from there docter take the med now otherwish you....!
What?
Talk to David Pasquarelli, then. A MAJOR loudmouth in the denialist
community living with HIV....
...oh, I'm sorry. He's not living with HIV. He died of AIDS because he
believed idiots like Mark/Paul.
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>but the are still alive and doing wel without meds! so isnt that wrong to
>give people meds who might not even need them at all!
It is unnecessary to give medications to people who do not need them.
People with CD4 counts dropping below 350 need medications.
Or they die.
>as my point of vieuw now is, for some people meds would be an option for
>short term, but in longterm if the disease would not get them the life
>ending meds will.
With the meds among the 90+% of HIV+ people who progress, we are ABLE
to talk about a long term.
And in that context, there are MANY options available to minimize the
risk of medications. A far more fruitful discussion than this
delirious denialist bullshit.
There are, happily, many other forums where those discussions happen.
This is indeed the forum for discussion of lethally stupid denialist
delusions.
George M. Carter