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PaulKing - 10 May 2005 04:05 GMT
1: Int J Occup Environ Health. 2000 Apr-Jun;6(2):122-6.    Related Articles,
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Benzene percutaneous absorption: dermal exposure relative to other benzene
sources.
Wester RC, Maibach HI.
Department of Dermatology, School of Medicine, University of California,
San Francisco, California 94143, USA.

Skin is one of several exposure routes whereby benzene, a widely
distributed environmental contaminant that causes leukemia, enters the
body, so accurate predictions of its percutaneous absorption are important
for risk assessment.

Determining benzene's skin-exposure dose and subsequent absorption is
difficult because it has a low boiling point and exists as both liquid and
vapor. Industrial and environmental benzene is present as a contaminant in
other vehicles/solvents, and its percutaneous absorption is in part
dependent upon co-solvent volatility.

Co-solvents such as benzene in toluene rapidly evaporate from skin,
whereas benzene contaminant in water is retained on skin longer due to
water's lower volatility. Co-solvents can also affect benzene-skin
partition coefficients; thus, permeability coefficients and percentage
doses absorbed can vary many-fold. The exposure situation will determine
percutaneous absorption, which, if low, can be overwhelmed by benzene
intake from the food we eat and the air we breathe.

PMID: 10828141 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Large quantities of Benzene are used in condom manufacture
GMCarter - 10 May 2005 11:34 GMT
>1: Int J Occup Environ Health. 2000 Apr-Jun;6(2):122-6.    Related Articles,
>Links
>
>Benzene percutaneous absorption: dermal exposure relative to other benzene
>sources.

Benzene absorption is associated with leukemia says  the article. It
says NOTHING about condoms or their use.

>Large quantities of Benzene are used in condom manufacture

1. No citation for this statement.
2. No information on how much benzene may be in a condom.
3. No information on how much benzene ex;posure per coital act one may
be exposed to.
4. No reasonable belief that the use of a latex condom would have any
impact on benzene exposure.
5. Fails to recognize that any such risk is from use of GLOVES on a
daily and multi-hour basis (e.g., hospital workers).
6. Fails to recognize the exceedingly low risk of either allergy or
benzene exposure versus the demonstrable and higher risks associated
with unprotected sex (from unwanted pregnancy to diseases such as
HIV).
7. Fails to recognize the potential use of plastic condoms.

Therefore, Mark buys distal, vague and unsupported theories of RISK
when it comes to something that nterferes with making porn flicks
while ignoring vast amounts of data showing that HIV exists and causes
AIDS in the majority of untreated individuals.

Draw your own conclusions.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 10 May 2005 21:15 GMT
Oh shut up you silly, silly boy.

You refuse to face facts and simply post absurd attempts at smears.

You need a good spanking, little boy
David Canzi -- non-mailable - 11 May 2005 04:29 GMT
>1: Int J Occup Environ Health. 2000 Apr-Jun;6(2):122-6.    Related Articles,
>Skin is one of several exposure routes whereby benzene, a widely
>distributed environmental contaminant that causes leukemia, enters the
>body, so accurate predictions of its percutaneous absorption are important
>for risk assessment.

Having quoted text about the importance of accuracy, you immediately
ignored it and posted this vacuity:

>Large quantities of Benzene are used in condom manufacture

"Large" doesn't mean anything without numeric quantities.  It doesn't
have enough significant digits... or *any* significant digits... to
be of any use.  It doesn't even have a known order of magnitude.
Are you talking grams or nanograms?  There is no way to tell.  Even if
you were being honest, your words above would reveal NOTHING about
the quantity of benzene used in condom manufacture.  (Which quantity,
by the way, is irrelevant.  The quantity condom users are exposed to
is what matters... *if* it's large enough to matter.)

Here in the real world, the only thing we can learn from your words
is that you want people to interpret this vague wave of your hand
as representing enough benzene to endanger their health.  We learn
nothing about benzene or condoms or danger from your words -- we only
learn something about you.

If you want to make your point, you need to answer these questions:

(1) By which routes -- inhalation, skin absorption, etc. -- can
   condoms expose condom users to benzene?
(2) How much exposure results, via each of those routes, from
   typical condom use?
(3) What is the relationship between the level of exposure by each
   exposure route and the resulting risk of disease or diseases?

If you can't specify the benzene exposure, in units of mass, and
the probability, in numerical form, of a disease resulting from that
exposure, then you don't know what you're talking about and you have
no rational grounds for your beliefs.  You're just a loud-mouthed
empty-headed ignoramus with an idée fixe.

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tsip29 - 11 May 2005 12:15 GMT
...The quantity condom users are exposed to
is what matters... *if* it's large enough to matter.)

so if it only needs a small amount, then it might matter! nobody knows for
sure!

some docter has written a book about how he cured him from his hiv
infection! does anyone know about him!

what he did is to take a body detox treatment for Benzene! before that he
turned always positief on the test. after the detox he didnt turn out
positief anymore!

anyone red the book!
GMCarter - 11 May 2005 14:49 GMT
>anyone red the book!

I didn't! You don't even provide the title! What book! Can I green the
book!
David Canzi -- non-mailable - 11 May 2005 16:46 GMT
>...The quantity condom users are exposed to
>is what matters... *if* it's large enough to matter.)
>
>so if it only needs a small amount, then it might matter!

And if the amount people are exposed to is smaller, it still doesn't
matter.  If you can't show how much benzene people are exposed to
and how much risk results, we learn no more from listening to you
than we would learn by listening to the hiss between stations on an
FM radio.

>some docter has written a book

Well now THAT'S an authoritative reference if ever I have seen one.

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