Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / April 2005
HIV and third world women
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CU86475@student.redbridge-college.ac.uk - 14 Apr 2005 12:38 GMT why is that HIV and AIDS are affecting a lot of third world women than women in developed countries. i think it is because women in third world countries are getting infected with the vurus through their so called men. these men can marry a number of women and end up infecting all with them with HIV, which is really unfair.
Death - 14 Apr 2005 14:18 GMT <CU86475@student.redbridge-college.ac.uk> wrote in message
> why is that HIV and AIDS are affecting a lot of third world women than > women in developed countries. i think it is because women in third > world countries are getting infected with the vurus through their so > called men. these men can marry a number of women and end up infecting > all with them with HIV, which is really unfair. Vietnam finds HIV carrier infected with bird flu Thu Apr 14, By Ho Binh Minh
HANOI (Reuters) - A 21-year-old woman has been infected by both the deadly HIV/AIDS virus and bird flu, the first such case in Vietnam, health officials said Thursday.
The Health Ministry said two other patients have been diagnosed with the H5N1 virus in the northern provinces of Ha Tay and Hung Yen between April 2 and 8 but no deaths were reported.
The latest findings brought to 41 the total number of patients with bird flu in Vietnam since December 2004, 16 of whom have died, the ministry said in a statement.
Nguyen Van Thich, head of the Center for Preventive Medicine in the northern province of Quang Ninh, said the woman, the first to be diagnosed with both bird flu and HIV in Vietnam, used to work at a hairdressor's shop. She was hospitalized in late March with fever and coughing.
"She is still very weak," he told Reuters, adding that the woman has been treated at a provincial hospital.
Quang Ninh province bordering China has one of the highest number of HIV carriers in Vietnam, most of them drug addicts and prostitutes.
Vietnam has reported 68 human infections of the H5N1 virus since the disease first hit Asia in late 2003, killing 36 Vietnamese.
Twelve Thais and three Cambodians have also died of the virus that the World Health Organization says has the potential to mutate into a form that could pass easily between humans and cause a pandemic in which millions could die.
Doctor Nguyen Tran Hien, director of the National Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology, was quoted Thursday by state media as saying Vietnam has taken nearly 1,000 blood samples from the patients, birds and water fowl infected by bird flu to help identify the map of the virus allocation.
Hien said the H5N1 virus tested this year showed it has changed slightly from the type that struck in 2004, its virulence was less but the speed of its spread was higher, reported the state-run Nguoi Lao Dong newspaper.
Some samples had been sent for further testing in the United States and the final results to confirm the difference would be available later this month, Hien said.
The Agriculture Ministry said poultry outbreaks have now been reported only in the southern province of Tra Vinh in the Mekong Delta where the virus broke anew last December and spread to 35 of Vietnam's 64 provinces.
Doctor Hoang Thuy Long, former head of the institute, told a government meeting Wednesday that most of the infected people in Vietnam, including several family clusters, had contact with sick birds.
"Even though so far the transmission mechanism of the disease remains unclear, the avian influenza H5N1 type in Vietnam shows no sign of being spread directly between human and human," Long was quoted by state-run Quan Doi Nhan Dan daily as saying.
Pope John Paul George & Ringo - 15 Apr 2005 20:56 GMT <CU86475@student.redbridge-college.ac.uk> wrote in message...
> why is that HIV and AIDS are affecting a lot of third world women than > women in developed countries. i think it is because women in third > world countries are getting infected with the vurus through their so > called men. these men can marry a number of women and end up infecting > all with them with HIV, which is really unfair. Polygamy may be part of it, but from what I've seen of African culture, promiscuous premarital sex is considered normal. A man may go through thousands of female sex partners before marrying one or more wife, and even after they are married he will still continue to have sex outside their marriage. But yes, the man will catch HIV and will give it to all his wives plus everyone else he is having an affair with. And they wonder why some areas in Africa have an adult HIV rate approaching 50% (hint: it's George W. Bush's fault).
GMCarter - 15 Apr 2005 21:45 GMT ><CU86475@student.redbridge-college.ac.uk> wrote in message... >> why is that HIV and AIDS are affecting a lot of third world women than [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Polygamy may be part of it, but from what I've seen of African culture, >promiscuous premarital sex is considered normal. What have you seen? Probably not much but bullshit from Aryan Nation sites.
Anyway, premarital sex is pretty normal in many cultures. Look at small town USA!
George M. Carter
Pope John Paul George & Ringo - 16 Apr 2005 20:14 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote...
> What have you seen? Probably not much but bullshit from Aryan Nation > sites. No, just from what I've read and seen on television (I'll admit that I've never been to Africa). All say the same thing, that rampant promiscuity is behind the HIV epidemic in Africa (though a recent theory proposed the reuse of needles as a major cause). My point was that it doesn't matter if African men have one or several or even dozens of wives - while he may infect all 50 wives with HIV, he will have infected hundreds of other women as well; the fact that some African cultures have polygamous marriage is irrelevant because it doesn't matter if the man has one or multiple wives, he will cheat on them all. Thus the 50% infection rate and one likely to approach 90% in the near future.
> Anyway, premarital sex is pretty normal in many cultures. Look at > small town USA! Yes, I'm not condemning premarital sex, but rather promiscuous indiscriminate sex. And interestingly enough our HIV rate is nowhere close to Africa's, and even the one single demographic group that has been affected hardest by HIV - gay men - their infection rate (which I calculated at 10%, though probably much higher), doesn't come close to the 30-50% rate found in most of Africa.
Siphokazi - 18 Apr 2005 23:33 GMT It is very true that HIV affects the third wourld countries mostly.As you have said polygamy is not entirely responsible for that because African man have this belief that no african man should have one woman.That was done in the olden days whre the wife will know the person tha her husband is having an affair with. Now things have changed there are a lot a disease transmitted sexualy excluding HIV there are gonorrhea, STDs etc these diseases can also decrease the quality of life of patient.I think women also has to have power to say NO to unprotected sex.I then the husband does not agree the tests have to be done regularly.Even so technology is improving in that thre are female condoms available,women can then put the responsibility on them to make sure that they are being protected.
HIV can be a lot managable if thre was no stigma to it.Especialy us African people we are still in deniel.HIV is living and should not be ignored.It is a disease for people people should not be ashamed of it because it is not like its an animal disease.It is meant for people.Until we have a cure for it then one should be safe/protected always
Siphokazi Pempeni (BPharm 4 Nelsin Mandela Metropolitan University).
PaulKing - 17 Apr 2005 10:51 GMT The Bangui Definition
In 1985, the World Health Organization called a meeting in Bangui, the capital of the Central African Republic, to define African AIDS. The meeting was presided over by CDC official Joseph McCormick. He wrote about it in his book "Level 4 Virus Hunters of the CDC," saying, "If I could get everyone at the WHO meeting in Bangui to agree on a single, simple definition of what an AIDS case was in Africa, then, imperfect as the definition might be, we could actually start counting the cases..." The result was that African AIDS would be defined by physical symptoms: fever, diarrhea, weight loss and coughing or itching. ("AIDS in Africa: an
epidemiological paradigm." Science, 1986).
In Sub-Saharan Africa, about 60 percent of the population lives and dies without safe drinking water, adequate food or basic sanitation. A September, 2003 report in the Ugandan Daily "New Vision" outlined the situation in Kampala, a city of approximately 1.3 million inhabitants, which, like most tropical countries, experiences seasonal flooding. The report describes "heaps of unclaimed garbage" among the crowded houses in
the flood zones and "countless pools of water [that] provide a breeding ground for mosquitoes and create a dirty environment that favors cholera."
"Latrines are built above water streams. During rains the area residents usually open a hole to release feces from the latrines. The rain then washes away the feces to streams, from where the [area residents] fetch water. However, not many people have access to toilet facilities. Some defecate in polythene bags, which they throw into the stream." They call these, "flying toilets."
The state-run Ugandan National Water and Sewerage Corporation states that currently 55 percent of Kampala is provided with treated water, and only 8 percent with sewage reclamation.
Most rural villages are without any sanitary water source. People wash clothes, bathe and dump untreated waste up and down stream from where water is drawn. Watering holes are shared with animal populations, which drink, bathe, urinate and defecate at the water source. Unmanaged human waste pollutes water with infectious and often deadly bacteria. Stagnant water breeds mosquitoes, which bring malaria. Infectious diarrhea, dysentery, cholera, TB, malaria and famine are the top killer in Africa. But in 1985, these conditions defined AIDS.
Ronnie DaFeo - 17 Apr 2005 22:31 GMT "PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote...
> ...... However, not many people have access to toilet facilities. Some > defecate in polythene bags, which they throw into the stream." They > call these, "flying toilets." How charming... And of course it's all America's fault, we should have been using our tax money to build a modern water and sewage infrastructure for Africa (just like America should have built seismic sensors in the Indian Ocean to warn of tsunamis). I just love how my country of 300 million people is expected to pay for the problems of the other 6 billion people on earth.
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