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Uday Hussein - 18 Mar 2005 16:18 GMT I don't know if this is true, so if anyone knows more about it please post it here. What I heard is that California is actually using tax money to pay the relocations costs of HIV patients from other states.
My brother is gay and both he and his black transexual freak of a former boyfried are HIV+. The negro's brother is also gay and a transvestite and HIV+ (what a surprise). All lived in Las Vegas, Nevada and all presumably contracted the virus there.
Anyway, my brother breaks up with the negro and the negro goes to Los Angeles, California, where he receives welfare, food stamps, and free public housing. I thought that was bad enough - that he should be allowed to not only move freely (and spread his virus), but also choose to move to a state with very liberal welfare benefits - why should California taxpayers have to pay to care for other states' AIDS patients?
But the story gets better. As I said, the negro's brother (who lives in Las Vegas) also has AIDS. So California actually PAID to relocate him from Nevada to California so he could go on California's welfare and Medicaid. We are not talking about a state giving these benefits to newly-arrived residents, we are talking about a state actually PAYING to move people who live in other states to that state so they can drain that state's welfare services.
And the story gets even better. The reason I heard (remember I have not verified this) why California was doing this is because there were too many Mexicans and not enough blacks receiving California social services (or maybe it was just HIV+ blacks). I don't know if a court ordered it, but for some reason California decided that it needed to import HIV+ negros from other states so it could meet its quota.
Death - 18 Mar 2005 16:54 GMT > I don't know if this is true, so if anyone knows more about it please > post it here. What I heard is that California is actually using tax > money to pay the relocations costs of HIV patients from other states. Virginia thinks the idea is sound
By Kathleen Rhodes CNSNews.com Correspondent March 18, 2005
(CNSNews.com) - The Virginia House of Delegates approved a constitutional amendment this week that would ban homosexual marriage. Now homosexual advocates claim that Virginia is producing more anti-homosexual legislation than most other states.
"The law that is most egregious is the Marriage Affirmation Act (House Bill 751). It passed last year... and it bans pretty much any gay relationship and it also bans private contracts between couples," said Joe Crea, former staff writer for the Washington Blade. "But I suspect that it's not going to stand in a court of law."
Crea was one of the panelists who evaluated recent bills they consider to be detrimental to homosexuals during a panel discussion, entitled "Virginia's War on Homosexuals?" at the American University's Washington College of Law Thursday.
The bill states that "a civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement between persons of the same sex purporting to bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage is prohibited and that such an arrangement entered into in another state or jurisdiction is void in Virginia and any contractual rights created thereby are void and unenforceable."
American University law professor Jane Dolkart, who specializes in gender and sexuality, said Virginia is the only state that has a law banning private partnership contracts for homosexuals. "I am quite certain that it is unconstitutional ... to ban contracts (between homosexuals)," she added.
"There are other states that have passed constitutional amendments that cover not just same-sex marriage but domestic partnerships as well. I admit that this legislation seems to go well beyond," said Dolkart. "It's so vague that it's hard to know how to interpret it."
The bill does not outright ban other arrangements or partnership agreements, the panelists admitted, but according to openly homosexual Virginia Delegate Adam Ebbin, "The big question in Virginia is how will it be appropriated if it is used to challenge" an existing legal contract.
Ebbin said "The scariest [piece of legislation] to me was the proposal that didn't pass, that would have outlawed gay adoption in Virginia." He was referring to House Bill 2921, which was passed in the House and was referred to a Senate Subcommittee.
Ebbin said the proposal "came before a subcommittee I was on, and it was drastically watered down to merely require information on whether someone is known to currently participate in voluntary homosexual activity, which sounds pretty frightening and intrusive."
Literally, the bill states, "No person under this statute may adopt if that person is a homosexual" and requires that the circuit court inquire as to whether the potential parents "engage in current voluntary homosexual activity."
"I thought that was a new level," Ebbin added.
The panelists also said there was a measure proposed that would allow school boards to ban "gay/straight alliances" at public schools.
According to the "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer Encyclopedia" website, a gay/straight alliance" is "defined as a youth-led, school- or community-based group that provides a safe, welcoming, and affirming physical and emotional space for glbtq students, as well as those who are perceived" as such, "those who are questioning their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, children from glbtq families, and heterosexual students who want to be allies of their glbtq peers."
Dolkart said that this sort of thing would be normally be protected under the Federal Equal Access Act, which allows most non-curriculum, special interest student groups to assemble in U.S. high schools.
"The bottom line is, if you [lend] your facilities to the public, you must allow all points of view to be represented. If you have extra-curricular activities in the school, then you have to allow gay/straight alliances," said Dolkart.
The courts in Virginia have also been unfavorable to homosexuals, Dolkart said. "Virginia pretty much will not grant custody to a lesbian parent," she said, adding that "they have gone so far as to deny custody to a lesbian parent in favor of her parent."
In Virginia, Dolkart added, "They still have a sodomy law on the books that is on its face unconstitutional based on the Supreme Court decision (in Lawrence vs. Texas)."
She asked "Why Virginia? There are other states that are at least, if not more conservative than Virginia that have done many bad things, but I don't think I have ever seen ... as much [anti-homosexual] legislation in one state as here."
"One thing is it's an election year in Virginia," Ebbin said, in an attempt to explain. He indicated that because of the political season, legislators would try to appear more conservative to win votes, and that this would put homosexuals at a disadvantage.
"The challenge in most districts is to be conservative enough that if you're gonna have an election challenge, in many cases, you're concern is winning a Republican primary against conservatives," Ebbin said.
William J. Howell, speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates (28th District), dismissed the idea that the Virginia Legislature was conducting a "war on homosexuals."
"I would disagree with that," Howell told the Cybercast News Service Thursday. "I think all the legislature is trying to do is to make the laws clear and follow the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the constituents in the Commonwealth."
Howell said the constitutional amendment to restrict marriage to one man and one woman was necessary. "I think the concern that they have in the legislature is that we have statutes already on the books," he claimed, " but they may be superceded by other states' laws ... so we feel it's important to have it in our constitution."
If the General Assembly approves the amendment during the 2006 legislative session, it will go before Virginia voters in the 2006 mid-term elections.
Howell had no opinion about the issue of "gay/straight alliances" being allowed in public schools, saying, "I have no idea what a gay/straight alliance is to begin with and so I couldn't tell you whether I think we should have them in schools or not."
Crea and Ebbin said a number of homosexual couples have left the state because they see Virginia law as unfriendly to homosexuals.
(Cybercast News Service Managing Editor David Thibault contributed to this article.)
dwacon - 18 Mar 2005 17:23 GMT > I don't know if this is true, so if anyone knows more about it please > post it here. What I heard is that California is actually using tax > money to pay the relocations costs of HIV patients from other states. Sounds like a load of horse hockey to me.
 Signature Paris Hilton used one of these on Ashlee Simpson... http://tinyurl.com/z6uc
scott tittle - 20 Mar 2005 04:19 GMT >> I don't know if this is true, so if anyone knows more about it please >> post it here. What I heard is that California is actually using tax >> money to pay the relocations costs of HIV patients from other states. > > Sounds like a load of horse hockey to me. Of course it is - no sources, no references, just pure racist, homophobic bullshit. This person needs to get a life.
Death - 20 Mar 2005 04:55 GMT "scott tittle" <stittle@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> > "Uday Hussein" <uday@iraq.net> wrote in message > > > >> I don't know if this is true,
> - no sources, no references, just pure racist, homophobic > bullshit. LOL, Uday Hussein is a well known faggot poster. I enjoyed the homophobic remark, thanks for that laugh.
Don't ya just hate the NAMBLA Handbook of Rote Catch Phrases especially when they don't supply the instructions on how to use them? LOL
GMCarter - 20 Mar 2005 11:07 GMT >LOL, Uday Hussein is a well known faggot poster. LOL...and you're a known racist homophobe.
Don't you love it when people are all so insecure and twisted up inside they have to express their infantile anger in the form of ethnic and gender hostility?
Of course, we know about homophobes. They're generally just wannabe cocksuckers.
George M. Carter
** Adams HE; Wright LW Jr; Lohr BA. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? J Abnorm Psychol 1996 Aug;105(3):440-445. Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Death - 21 Mar 2005 04:18 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > > >LOL, Uday Hussein is a well known faggot poster. > > LOL...and you're a known racist Never have I denied what I stand for. What puzzles me is, why you kneel for everything.
GMCarter - 21 Mar 2005 11:57 GMT >"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >Never have I denied what I stand for. LOL. You deny it all the time. You're too much of a coward to use your real name.
>What puzzles me is, why you kneel for everything. Silly bully. I don't kneel for everything. But kneeling is fine and no particular source of puzzlement.
Whether praying (which I don't do in any traditional sense) or to engage in oral sex. You never kneel to give oral sex? Women must find you dull.
George M. Carter
Death - 21 Mar 2005 15:14 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> LOL. You deny it all the time. You're too much of a coward to use your > real name. Some women have no humor. Given a choice though, I prefer Death over Snoop Doggie Dog.
But then, I'd bet you had a point to make. I'll leave this space below for you to do so.
Uday Hussein - 22 Mar 2005 04:59 GMT "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote...
> "scott tittle" <stittle@socal.rr.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Don't ya just hate the NAMBLA Handbook of Rote Catch Phrases > especially when they don't supply the instructions on how to use them? LOL And as for racist, I happily admit my dislike of blacks, and also that they're the only group of people in the world that I don't like. But I'm not sure what part of my post you found "racist," the transexual WAS black; perhaps it was the term "negro" you found offensive, but how offended are you by the United Negro College Fund or the Negro League (baseball) hall of fame? Just remember that you can't say "colored people" but you can say "people of color."
And although I know you (Scott Tittle) don't care, from what I can figure of my brother's twisted psychology, it was not true love that led him to adopt the transexual negro as his companion, it was that it would give our parents heart attacks. While my family is definitely not the KKK and as "liberal" as our parents profess to be, this just killed them. It was hard enough for them to accept a gay son and that he was dating a transexual, not just a transexual but a NEGRO transexual (with AIDS as we later learned), literally drove them over the edge. I mentioned that my brother is bipolar and while I'll admit a few quirks of my own (plus I flipped out on crystal meth), my brother seems to have some very severe and deeply-rooted psychological problems; in other words, it seems most of his actions seem designed to piss our parents off immensely. I might mention the recent event where our parents went to visit him in the condo our father BOUGHT for him and charges no rent for, and they actually found some other negro LIVING in the garage. My brother was actually letting some crackhead negro he met at the gay bar one night live in his garage, AND to top it off the negro had his 1200W space heater plugged into the electricity our father pays for! And having a full month's advance notice that they were coming to visit he STILL had the negro there when they arrived! AND after our father kicked the negro out, as soon as they left my brother moved the negro back in!
I don't give a flying f.ck if you call me racist. I hate negros and my parents don't really care for them either, despite all their protests to the contrary. My brother's bizarre fascination with negros is some sort of passive-aggressive rebellion against the family he seems to see as having oppressed him in the past. All I can tell you is that the transexual negro acted as some sort of focal point for my brother's bipolar obsession; he created a sort of fantasy bubble universe where he, his flamboyant faggotry (and keep in mind I'm gay and not necessarily discreet), his transexual pre-op cross-dressing negro on estrogen, the gay bar, the gay bar, the gay bar, the gay bar, the gay bar, the gay bar, HIV, and the annual gay pride parade were all defined as "normal," whereas anything that deviated even slightly from that (i.e. the real world) was "bigoted" and "intolerant."
------------------------------------------------------------------------ "When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms 'negro,' 'oriental,' 'handicapped' or 'chick' for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. 'Broad' and 'chick' were merely the feminine equivalents of 'guy,' 'dude' or 'fellow.' The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves." -- The Unabomber Manifesto; Paragraph 11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Death - 22 Mar 2005 16:16 GMT "Uday Hussein" <uday@iraq.net> wrote in message
> > "scott tittle" <stittle@socal.rr.com> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > like. But I'm not sure what part of my post you found "racist," > the transexual WAS black; Perhaps it was the play on the name change that confused Scott or he didn't recognize your style of writing...
That would be the benefit of the doubt.......
However I believe the fool just lashed out not knowing anything. Homophobic is a word that flows out of his mouth like sperm. He threw in racist thinking it would be PC. He wants documentation for your opinion because he had nothing else to contribute to the thread.
How many times have I seen this?
GMCarter - 23 Mar 2005 00:36 GMT >> And as for racist, I happily admit my dislike of blacks, and also >> that they're the only group of people in the world that I don't >> like. You and your homophobic buddy. Wow. How silly and sad you guys are.
And the really sad thing is that folks like you are like that poor, Nazi-loving fuckup that murdered all those people in Minnesota.
It's not just sad and pathetic--it's dangerous.
Don't you think life is too short to waste it on such anger and hate? I guess not. But that is your misery to live with.
George M. Carter
Death - 23 Mar 2005 02:12 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You and your homophobic buddy. Wow. How silly and sad you guys are. He (my buddy) is neither my buddy or homophobic. As for myself, I am not homophobic. I have no fear of a faggot. To the contrary I find them quite entertaining.
Lets use you as an example. Below you compare me to a Nazi loving fuckup. Just for a laugh, tell me your address and we can discuss this over tea.
> And the really sad thing is that folks like you are like that poor, > Nazi-loving fuckup that murdered all those people in Minnesota. > > It's not just sad and pathetic--it's dangerous. > > Don't you think life is too short to waste it on such anger and hate? I don't give 2 sh.ts for life, mine or yours.
GMCarter - 23 Mar 2005 02:19 GMT snip
>I don't give 2 sh.ts for life, mine or yours. Wow. Too bad.
But not unexpected.
Gary Stein - 23 Mar 2005 18:55 GMT > snip > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > But not unexpected. The truly sad part of it is that he has no clue as to how pathetic that statement makes him.
Lacking any concern for life is the equivalent of being dead. Yet he feels the need for approval so deeply that he spends the amount of time he does posting to Usenet, what a self deluded fool he must be.
Gary Stein
Death - 23 Mar 2005 19:18 GMT "Gary Stein" <ge.stein@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Yet he feels the need for approval so deeply that he spends the amount of time he does
> posting to Usenet, Sounds like you have named your own poison. I'd wager you are too blinded by your hypocrisy to notice.
GMCarter - 24 Mar 2005 00:39 GMT >"Gary Stein" <ge.stein@verizon.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I'd wager you are too blinded by your hypocrisy >to notice. There's a difference between Gary's posts and yours. Gary likes life. Wants to live. Thus, it is not hypocrisy. But I wager you're too blind to understand that in the emptiness of your existence.
I hope you wake up to the beauty and joy of life and find healing for all the hate and ugliness. That's your choice, your option, YOUR life. I can't imagine feeling all that ugliness can be all that fun or engaging.
George M. Carter
Death - 24 Mar 2005 00:50 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > There's a difference between Gary's posts and yours. There sure is. To see the difference look above. There you will notice usenet is the topic. You babble on though, he can use the distraction.
Death - 24 Mar 2005 01:15 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> I hope you wake up to the beauty and joy of life and find healing for > all the hate and ugliness. That's your choice, your option, YOUR life. > I can't imagine feeling all that ugliness can be all that fun or > engaging. I can't imagine anyone wanting another male to stick his dick in their a.shole.
I can't imagine a male wanting to suck someone elses dick.
I can't imagine someone with aids doing those things and calling it anything but murder.
Tell the disease spreading faggots how you feel about the lives they ruin through their actions.
No, wait, just sit on your a.s and call me nazi because I don't accept their perversion and say so.
GMCarter - 24 Mar 2005 11:39 GMT snip
>I can't imagine anyone wanting another male to stick >his dick in their a.shole. But you do like to think about it...and I'll bet watching gay porn would give you a hard on!
LOL. Sexual activity is idiosyncratic. What floats one person's boat revolts another. So what?
Diseases, of course, do not care a whit. Anal sex is practiced between two men and men and women. Two women may use dildos or enjoy fisting.
HIV infection is not a gay disease--but it disproportionaly affects gay men in the west.
But here, of course, you just wish to spout your squeamish anger and life-hating fright that somebody might be different from you and enjoy it. Or more likely not afraid to express their sexuality as you are.
Wherefore, dear, they call people like you homophobes. Afraid of your own desires.
Heterosexual guys I've known (and research supports this) who are truly comfortably hetero could not care less what a gay man does. Homophobic guys are generally just wannabe conflicted cocksuckers.
I wish you the best in healing and finding some joy in life.
George M. Carter
Death - 24 Mar 2005 15:28 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But you do like to think about it...and I'll bet watching gay porn > would give you a hard on! I suppose in your perverted mind, if I said I dislike hot beer you would think I secretly like hot beer and jack off thinking about it.
Thanks for the view of how a faggot gets through the night.
GMCarter - 24 Mar 2005 18:34 GMT snip
>I suppose in your perverted mind, if I said I dislike hot beer >you would think I secretly like hot beer and jack off thinking about it. LOL. Not in the slightest. What a silly example.
Death - 24 Mar 2005 18:48 GMT "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
> snip > > >I suppose in your perverted mind, if I said I dislike hot beer > >you would think I secretly like hot beer and jack off thinking about it. > > LOL. Not in the slightest. What a silly example. Yes it is and was meant to be. That is how foolish your statement was.
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:52 -0600, "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:
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>I can't imagine anyone wanting another male to stick >his dick in their a.shole. But you do like to think about it...and I'll bet watching gay porn would give you a hard on!
George M. Carter
Jeff Wiese - 24 Mar 2005 06:18 GMT To jump back into this thread, while I haven't found any sources for what I heard, none of you have found evidence to the contrary either. In fact, I just just imagine the whiny AIDS activist industry vigorously lobbying for California to import out-of-state AIDS patients - their viewpoint might be that other states provide insufficient welfare and medical services for people with AIDS, therefore it is California's humanitarian responsibility to accept them as refugees. This really is no different from any other crisis on planet earth, where the same leftists demand that the U.S. pay to relocate refugees of whatever conflict/disaster/right-wing political oppression/etc. from their native lands to the U.S. and that we pay for their food, housing, medical, and education (when we have a hard time providing enough of those things to our own people).
Uday Hussein - 21 Mar 2005 18:28 GMT "scott tittle" <stittle@socal.rr.com> wrote...
>>> I don't know if this is true, so if anyone knows more about it please >>> post it here. What I heard is that California is actually using tax [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Of course it is - no sources, no references, just pure racist, homophobic > bullshit. This person needs to get a life. I think I mentioned I had no references, I asked if anyone else knew anything about it. As for source, it came from my brother, but I will admit he's insane (bipolar from all the crystal meth). I don't know why he would lie about it though.
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