If we now consider the efficiency of the condom when used as a
prophylactic
against STDs, we find a significant failure rate which appears roughly
inversely
proportional to the size of the pathogenic agent
N.J.Fiumaralxvii reckons that the condom, which is in theory useful
against STDs,
is, in practice, inefficient. J.Pemberton et al. (1972), while examining
2,093 STD
cases diagnosed in Belfast found a lower percentage of syphilis and
gonorrhea among
condom users, but a higher proportion of non-gonococcal urethrites and
idiopathic
STDs.
______
So how could HIV which is hundreds of times smaller than the syphillis
bacteria be blocked by a condom if it cannot block syphillis.
This shows how blatent the FDA lie about condoms 'being no proven
protection against stds' but' 'protection against HIV' was.
A LIE ANY FOOL CAN SEE THROUGH
PaulKing - 18 Mar 2005 11:51 GMT
The term microperforation describes holes that are too small to be
recognized by users, but being large enough to allow the passage of
microorganisms (Skaug 1976).
The flexible nature of latex gloves allows microperforations to open and
close depending on whether or not gloves are stretched (Carey et al 1989,
Korniewicz et al 1989, Stampfer et al 1994). Microperforations may result
from manufacturing defects, material fatigue or extensive wear.
Permeation can occur through diffusion, capillary action, or forced
movement across the micro porous latex membrane.
PaulKing - 18 Mar 2005 11:51 GMT
STANDARD WATER TEST
"The FDA tests every batch of imported condoms as well, though imports
account for very few condoms used in this country. Although the smallest
hole the water test can find is 100 times bigger than the HIV virus,
officials believe the water test is sufficient. "
PaulKing - 18 Mar 2005 11:58 GMT
The condom itself is not 100 % safe. Result of examination show the
following :
A condom is made of rubber (latex), a hydrocarbon compound with
polymerization, which means that it is fibrous and porous like woven
cloth. By means of an electronic microscope the pores of the condom can
be
seen in a non-stretched state with a width of 1/60 micron, while the
HIV/AIDS virus has a width of 1/250 micron. When the condom is stretched
the pores of the condom are 10 times as wide as that of the virus; in
other words, the virus can go through the wall of the condom. The condom
was designed for family planning (to strain sperm, not viruses); and a
condom is not meant for fornication/prostitution.
Research carried out in the U.S. on 89 condoms in circulation on the
market proved that 29 out of 89 leaked, which means that the leakage was
about 30 %. In Indonesia condoms imported from Hong Kong in 1996 were
withdrawn from market because 50 % leaked. In practice in the field there
is often failure of condoms use for family planning because of leakage,
let alone for fornication/prostitution. As a comparison, sperm are as
large as oranges and viruses as large as a period (dot).
Another examination conducted in the U.S. ( the Physical Division of
Human
Sciences, Maryland, USA, 1992) showed that particles as minute as viruses
can be detected going through the wall of condoms.
In every condom there are 0.4 % pinhole, microscopic defect in the
manufacturing process. The area of the condom is 80 cm2 and if you count
32,000 pinhole in each condom, and if each pinhole is 1/1000 micron, you
can imagine the total number of pinholes in a condom.
Based on the above finding, the anti-AIDS campaign in the U.S. no longer
uses the Safe Sex Use Condoms slogan, but just the reverse (a turn of
180o),
At the same time an expert of the University of Utah, Professor Victor
Cline, state in 1995 that if we believe that by using condoms we are
protected from sexually transmitted diseases including the HIV/AIDS
virus,
we really have gone astray.
GMCarter - 18 Mar 2005 13:54 GMT
>The condom itself is not 100 % safe.
And 100% safety is achievable along with this little pill you pop that
confers immortality.
PaulKing - 18 Mar 2005 23:48 GMT
So you admit condoms can be deadly?
Progress at last.
GMCarter - 19 Mar 2005 00:11 GMT
>So you admit condoms can be deadly?
LOL. Condoms are not deadly.
>Progress at last.
The world turns, your brain devolves, we all approach our own
respective deaths as time goes by.
PaulKing - 19 Mar 2005 09:56 GMT
Seems you are almost alone in that delusion.
Bennett - 19 Mar 2005 17:10 GMT
Err, the quote above clearly states there was:
"a lower percentage of syphilis and gonorrhea among condom users"
Besides, have you tried growing bacteria in the lab? How about
viruses? Now, which is easiest......
(A hint, growing bacteria is dead easy, so hands and the surrounding
perineum may well spread bacterial STDs whereas stopping the semen may
well be enough to stop the virus innoculum).
Cheers
Bennett
PaulKing - 20 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT
You accused me of admissions and have done EXACTLY the same thing.
EXACTLY.
"but a higher proportion of (infections with condom use of) non-gonococcal
urethrites and idiopathic STDs.
As protection is a function of size (according to this report) condoms
would have the highest failure rate in regard to the second smallest virus
(if it is in fact a virus) HIV and the smallest Hepres.
My original point confirmed.
Bennett - 20 Mar 2005 18:19 GMT
Second smallest virus? Herpes is the smallest? WTF? You haven't a
clue.
You're still missing the point. HIV is spread through semen. It can
be PCR'd from and seen under EM in semen. Other STDs (herpes
especially) may be spread via contact with the surrounding perineum.
Condoms don't cover the entire genital area!
Your logic is way too simplistic, you've confirmed nothing because you
have no evidence for it! The smallest object may in fact be the least
likely to get through. See various jokes regarding surface tension in
another thread...
I didn't need to re-quote your stuff because it was there in black and
white above my post. I didn't try to hide it by not providing a link,
or even attempting to pass it off as a complete quote. Removing quotes
that clearly state that HIV transmission can be reduced 85% with condom
use would rather argue that you are entirely UNABLE to confirm your
original point. At least not without lying.
Bennett
PaulKing - 21 Mar 2005 07:27 GMT
"Other STDs (herpes
especially) may be spread via contact"
That is only true of Herpes. You know that argument is nonsense but it was
all you could think of.
Very poor response indeed!
GMCarter - 21 Mar 2005 11:54 GMT
>"Other STDs (herpes
>especially) may be spread via contact"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Very poor response indeed!
Your responses are even worse. They show no ability to critically
evaluate information.
PaulKing - 21 Mar 2005 07:30 GMT
P.S. It what you say was correct than you would have to admit that saying
condoms were protection against most stds would be a total lie.
You have just shot yourself in the foot....big time.
Bennett - 22 Mar 2005 04:16 GMT
My definition of protection is "reduces risk of transmission". Yours
seems to be "0% transmission", which just highlights your ignorance -
or your willingness to re-write science to suit your own ends.
We already know you are prepared to re-write everything else.
Cheers
Bennett
PaulKing - 11 Apr 2005 10:14 GMT
New US government website attacked for comments on sexuality and
effectiveness of condoms (telling partly the truth -ed)
The wording of information about condoms on the site is also potentially
misleading (they mean factual). US abstinence education programmes usually
only mention condoms when referring to their potential for failure.
The 4parents.com site suggests that condoms offer only “moderate”
protection against HIV and gonorrhoea, “less” protection against
Chlamidya, herpes and human papilloma virus, and that the ability of
condoms to protect against syphilis “has not been well studied.” Although
these claims are backed by reference to studies looking at the
effectiveness of condoms, they do not acknowledge that the studies were,
almost exclusively, conducted in populations with a high prevalence, or
risk of sexually transmitted infections.
____
The rest of the article (attacking the new semi honest official statements
on condoms) is a pathetic attempt to defend condoms citing the one and
only study (if you can call it that) conducted over twelve years ago that
claimed that condoms reduced 'AIDS' in the 132 couples studied. As usual
the 'conclusions' section of that report which said 'in real world use
condoms failed up to 32% of the time' was ignored.
This study has been contradicted by ALL the 400 subsequent studies almost
without exception.