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PaulKing - 23 Feb 2005 06:58 GMT
"The power of such a method to force changes in cultural values is based on
careful manipulation of fear. Ideally, health promotion messages should
heighten an individual's perceptions of threat and his or her capacity to
respond to that threat, thus modulating the level of fear...What is not
yet known is how to introduce fear in the right way in a particular
message intended for a particular audience.

Acquiring that knowledge will require planned variations of AIDS education
programs that are carefully executed and then carefully evaluated".

Pages 267-8 and 373.- 1989 National Research Council/CDC Internal Report
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 23 Feb 2005 08:05 GMT
>"The power of such a method to force changes in cultural values is based on
>careful manipulation of fear. Ideally, health promotion messages should
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Pages 267-8 and 373.- 1989 National Research Council/CDC Internal Report

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cogpfs%24qr%241%40rumours.uwaterloo.ca

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PaulKing - 23 Feb 2005 09:31 GMT
That blog is incorrect in one detail.

I remember reading the original report and both quotes are from it.

The first quote, actually is the one from page 373.

The rest of the quote is from pages 267-8.

I have it somewhere but as it is hard copy it will be a bitch to find.
George DeCarlo - 23 Feb 2005 18:51 GMT
    The National Research Council makes copying the documents difficult
from their website.  Below are the links and I have saved the pages for
those that would like the .pdfs sent to them directly.  Yes, locating
this for many people would have been difficult if they were not used to
searching through government websites.  I was able to find the quote
from pages 267-8 and part of the quote that was attributed to page 373
was a sentence also found on 267.  The remainder of the quote from page
373 is not in this book available at their website.  But, I believe I
have found the remembrance of various quotes (maybe).  At the bottom is
a quote from a url http://www.sumeria.net/aids/agenda.html  The quote
from this website has been produced elsewhere merged or with all pages
listed without the piece from sumeria.net cited from page 373.  Still
the book seems very interesting in the belief system being promoted
through psychological means no matter the science.  As was stated in
the past presidential election, whether or not the electoral process
was being carried out in a proper manner in allowing voters to vote and
ballots to be counted, it was more "important for the American public
to believe..."

George DeCarlo

book cover image:
http://books.nap.edu/images/minicov/0309039762.gif

AIDS, Sexual Behavior, and Intravenous Drug Use (1989)
Commission on Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education
http://www.nap.edu/books/0309039762/html/index.html

Chapter 4 Facilitating Change in Health Behaviors
pages 259-315

http://books.nap.edu/books/0309039762/html/267.html
page 267 (bottom)

http://books.nap.edu/books/0309039762/html/268.html#pagetop
page 268 (top)

"What is not yet known is how to introduce fear in the right way in a
particular message intended for a particular audience.  Acquiring that
knowledge will require planned variations of AIDS education programs
that are carefully executed and then carefully evaluated".

Chapter 7 Social Barriers to AIDS Prevention
pages 372-402

http://www.nap.edu/openbook/0309039762/html/373.html#pagetop

The following quote not found on page 373:

The power of such a method to force changes in cultural values is based
on
careful manipulation of fear. Ideally, health promotion messages should

heighten an individual's perceptions of threat and his or her capacity
to
respond to that threat, thus modulating the level of fear

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.sumeria.net/aids/agenda.html
(quote is about a quarter of the way down the page)
"The devastating effect of an epidemic on a community can evoke strong
political and social responses," the committee duly noted, "An epidemic
necessitates the rapid mobilization of the community to counter the
spread of illness and death" (p. 373).

The power of such a method to force changes in cultural values is based
on careful manipulation of fear:

"Ideally, health promotion messages should heighten an individual's
perceptions of threat and his or her capacity to respond to that
threat, thus modulating the level of fear... What is not yet known is
how to introduce fear in the right way in a particular message intended
for a particular audience. Acquiring that knowledge will require
planned variations of AIDS education programs that are carefully
executed and then carefully evaluated," stated the committee coolly
(pp.267-8).
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 24 Feb 2005 04:32 GMT
>I remember reading the original report and both quotes are from it.
>The first quote, actually is the one from page 373.
>The rest of the quote is from pages 267-8.

The sentence "the power of such a method to force changes in cultural
values is based on careful manipulation of fear" is not from the
NRC/CDC report.  This has been pointed out to you before, and proven.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cogpfs%24qr%241%40rumours.uwaterloo.ca

Yet here you are posting it again, and attriubuting it to the NRC/CDC
again.  This is just one of many examples of you reposting things
you know are not true.

The unavoidable conclusion is that you don't care whether the things
you say here are true or false.

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George DeCarlo - 24 Feb 2005 17:53 GMT
David,

The problem that you have written of has been addressed in my posting.
It was simply a matter of time merging a quote and a sentence from
another person.  I am sure you have experienced this as we all have and
will in the future.

Thank you,
George DeCarlo

> >I remember reading the original report and both quotes are from it.
> >The first quote, actually is the one from page 373.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> again.  This is just one of many examples of you reposting things
> you know are not true.
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 28 Feb 2005 00:30 GMT
>David,
>
>The problem that you have written of has been addressed in my posting.
>It was simply a matter of time merging a quote and a sentence from
>another person.  I am sure you have experienced this as we all have and
>will in the future.

The purpose of most of my responses to "Paul King" is to demonstrate
that he is dishonest, and chronically so.

The first time he says a thing that is then shown to be wrong, you
might give him the benefit of the doubt and excuse it as a mistake.
If just once or twice he repeats verbatim arguments which were shown
to be false when he used them before, you might give him the benefit
of the doubt and excuse these as slip-ups.  If he does this often and
over a long period of time, as he has, continuing to give him the
benfit of the doubt ceases to be merely polite or charitable: it
becomes instead a form of wilful blindness.  "Paul King" overdrew
his benefit-of-the-doubt account long ago.

Nobody who has witnessed his year-long performance on this newsgroup
can possibly believe he is honest.  The newsgroup's regulars don't
need to be reminded, but newcomers to the group need to be warned.

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