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Gary Stein - 16 Feb 2005 09:52 GMT

"PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote in message
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> "WHERE does HIV hang out"
>
> 'HIV' is seldom found in Canada, Japan, Phillipines, Holland, Sweden and
> Denmark or anywhere with legal prostitution, but loves the Third World
> African countries. It is a member of the Klan, so can be found at their
> nice little social gatherings.

First world nations with legal prostitution license there sex workers and
require them to undergo periodic medical checks and to use condoms. It would
be highly unlikely for such countries to have high STD or HIV rates within
those regulated sex worker communities. Third world nations on the other
hand have no such health regulations many of the sex workers are the
equivalent of slaves due to there dire economic status and the prevailing
social systems of many third world nations do not grant women equal status
with men thus they are easily coerced into serving males as virtual chattel
in order to survive. This easily explains the differences in HIV rates
between the two systems.

> Being gay it likes Santa Monica Blvd.
>
> 'HIV' does not like heterosexuals, Asians, teenagers or anyone with a high
> income, so don't look in these places for it.

Well new HIV cases in the US in heterosexuals who have sexual contacts with
persons in high risks groups such as IV drug users or bisexuals are almost
equal to the numbers of new cases in Gay men, and 6% in heterosexuals with
undetermined risk those who claimed not to have had contact with someone in
a high risk group. So your statement that HIV does not like hetro's is
simply not true it is infecting them in greater and greater numbers as the
HIV epidemic progresses here in the US. Within the next 2 to 5 years they
will surpass gay men as the group with the highest number of new cases each
year in the US.

> The best place to find 'HIV' hanging out is on any farm that breeds bulls.
> Poke around in their sh.t and you will soon find some 'HIV' viruses
> plotting ther next evil enterprise.

The thing you are most likely to find on a cattle ranch is more of the
Bullshit that PaulKing/MarkHanua spread across the web in his attempts to
earn cash by promoting his propaganda that barebacking is everyone's god
given right, is safer then using a condom and that anyone who says different
is a part of a massive conspiracy aimed at ruining his sex life and porn
business.

Gary Stein

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PaulKing - 16 Feb 2005 22:06 GMT

"First world nations with legal prostitution license there sex workers"

1). As you well know condoms cannot protect against even regular std's let
alone a far smaller virus.

2). In the Philipines, condom use is very low (Catholic) and with 500,000
prostitutes that line does not hold water, just like condoms in that
country.

3). Condom use n Holland, Denmark and Sweden is below U.S. levels.

So much for that idea.

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tyronerie - 17 Feb 2005 04:01 GMT

"So your statement that HIV does not like hetro's is
simply not true it is infecting them in greater and greater numbers as
the
HIV epidemic progresses here in the US. Within the next 2 to 5 years
they
will surpass gay men as the group with the highest number of new cases
each year in the US. "

Even if heteros surpass gay men for the highest numbers of new
infections....that still wouldn't mean that heteros will ever have a
higher percentage rate of new infections. That..."distinction"....will
always belong to homosexual men, since the infection, via sexual
intercourse, in the heterosexual community usually stops with the
women. It is very difficult for a hetero man to contract HIV from a
hetero woman in the US or any other developed country. Therefore the
hetero men cannot pass it on.

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Gary Stein - 17 Feb 2005 05:46 GMT

> "So your statement that HIV does not like hetro's is
> simply not true it is infecting them in greater and greater numbers as
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> hetero woman in the US or any other developed country. Therefore the
> hetero men cannot pass it on.

Well according to the CDC website at;
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5347a3.htm

New infections in the US from 2000 to 2003 you will see the following
numbers;

Men who have sex with Men was 55,431 or 44.1% of new cases for the period.

MSM IDU users 5,145 or 4.1 %

Injection drug users who do not have sex with men 20,083 or 16% of new cases

High risk heterosexual contact, heterosexuals who had sexual contact with
either and IDU or a man who has sex with men. 43,098 or 34.3% of new cases.

Other; Mother to child exposure, receipt of transfusion of blood, blood
components, blood products, receipt of organ or tissue transplants,
artificial insemination, or unintentional occupational exposure to human
blood or other body fluids. 2,042 or 1.6% of new cases.

So let's do the math shall we from 2000 to 2003;

MSM 55,431
MSM / IDU 5,145
Total 60,576 gay or bisexual new cases

IDU (not msm) 20,083
Heterosexual Contacts 43,098
Other not MSM 2,042
Total 65,223

So it would seem that your wrong here we see that both actual numbers and
percentages are higher for new HIV cases in heterosexual patients over
patients who have sex with men and IDU who also have sex with men.

Gary Stein

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