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New York Times quotes Paul King on 'AIDS'

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PaulKing - 15 Feb 2005 05:30 GMT
REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM

I just got this in e-mail... I'm assuming PaulKing is the Paul King we all
know and love.  :-  Here's the quote of interest:
 
In the misc.health.aids Usenet group found through Google, a contributor
with
the name PaulKing wrote: "Some poor NY meths addict, who has wrecked
his immune system with this highly dangerous drug, is being used to try
to revive the dying 'AIDS' myth. Seems they will stop at nothing to
keep the big bucks rolling in and the public in fear of sex. Shame on
them."
 
.. and the full article:
 
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New York Times
February 14, 2005
Gay Users of Internet Play Down Concerns Over New Strain of AIDS
  By DAMIEN CAVE

Alerts popped like flashbulbs all over the Web this weekend as news of  a
rare and potentially more aggressive form of H.I.V., first reported
publicly in New York on Friday, spread through gay chat rooms, Web
logs, dating sites and e-mail.

  Officials said the H.I.V. strain had been detected in an unidentified
man who, while using crystal methamphetamine, had engaged in
unprotected anal sex with multiple partners. Gay users of the Web,
especially those who initiate sexual encounters online, had ample
reason for concern: the man had apparently met some of those partners  on
an unnamed Web site.

  And yet, while a touch of anger and fear could be found among the  Web's
textual din, some of the most popular gay dating and discussion
sites buzzed with the usual banter of love and lust, with many of those
online advising against panic.

  Health officials said the new strain was worrisome because it had
resisted nearly all the drugs used to treat the viral infection and had
progressed swiftly to full-fledged AIDS. When a participant in a  popular
gay forum at Craigslist.org, an online bulletin board, who
identified himself as armyjackson1 asked on Saturday if he was the only
one "freaked out" by the news, the responses recommended calm.

"Let's not freak out," a user with the ID jrzcty wrote. Another said:

"Use protection, steer clear of party drugs, and encourage your friends
to do the same. This is no time to freak out - it's just time to sober
up."

It was much the same at other sites. For example, the new strain of the
virus, which one Web log labeled "H.I.V. 2.0," attracted little
interest at Gay.com. The site, which maintains more than four million
dating profiles and has about 30,000 users online at any given time,
manages dozens of chat rooms. An academic study that surveyed about  3,000
of the site's users in 2002 found that 84 percent had met sex  partners
online, and that these users were 6 percent more likely to
have unprotected anal sex than those who met their partners offline.

  At Gay.com, the topic of AIDS rarely came up. In one of the Brooklyn
discussions yesterday, about 50 men lurked and flirted, offering
opportunities to meet, as advertisements for gay video sites repeatedly
interrupted. In more than three hours of online conversation, the new
strain of H.I.V. was not mentioned once.

  During a private online chat with a reporter, Louis, 37, a former
publisher of a gay tabloid who was in Gay.com's Brooklyn chat room
yesterday, said the site's users were not panicking because they  already
understood the danger of H.I.V. mutations.

He said that after he became infected with H.I.V. in 2004, he learned a
great deal about the various permutations of the virus as his doctor
struggled to identify his strain. Many other gay men, he said, are
equally well informed, and need more information about the current  scare
before they can share health officials' concern.

  "If the guy had multiple partners, he could have picked up a bunch of
different mutations to begin with," he wrote. "There is still a lot of
scientific 'what abouts' and 'what ifs' that go along with this story."

Louis, who answered questions on the condition of anonymity because he
has not yet come out to some of his relatives, also said reaction might
be delayed because those who are infected by the unidentified man still
need to be tested. And even if they are found to be positive, it could
take weeks to know whether they are infected with exactly the same
strain. For now, he said, the new strain is "not that big a deal."

Others went even further in dismissing the warning. In the
misc.health.aids Usenet group found through Google, a contributor with
the name PaulKing wrote: "Some poor NY meths addict, who has wrecked  his
immune system with this highly dangerous drug, is being used to try  to
revive the dying 'AIDS' myth. Seems they will stop at nothing to
keep the big bucks rolling in and the public in fear of sex.

Shame on  them."

  City officials reject the claim that they are trying to scare people
into abstinence, stressing that the public was alerted so that medical
providers would be more vigilant.

cont..
PaulKing - 15 Feb 2005 06:50 GMT
"City officials reject the claim that they are trying to scare people into
abstinence, stressing that the public was alerted so that medical
providers would be more vigilant."

Strange that they ("City officials") were so quick to react to an
accusation from someone as unknown to the public as myself.

Touchy, touchy.

Could it be I hit a nerve?
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 15 Feb 2005 17:06 GMT
>"City officials reject the claim that they are trying to scare people into
>abstinence, stressing that the public was alerted so that medical
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Could it be I hit a nerve?

Could it be that a NY Times reporter called them up and asked them
some questions, and they answered them?

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dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu - 15 Feb 2005 07:36 GMT
> REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM

         a. What is that ?... DAG forum

         b. What is the URL universal resource locator web link for it?
PaulKing - 15 Feb 2005 07:47 GMT
http://www.dissidentaction.com

AND

http://www.aimultimedia.com/daglinks/forumdirectory2.html

THE DISSIDENT ACTION GROUP (DAG)

Thanks for your post.
dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu - 15 Feb 2005 10:38 GMT
> REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM

         Which of the several listed is that particular forum
         referred to in the top post, the first posting?...

         Please cite the exact URL universal resource locator
         web link !
PaulKing - 16 Feb 2005 00:40 GMT
http://www.dissidentaction.com

THE MAIN DAG FORUM

The other 42 are "Interactive Information Resources' and a secure forum
don warner saklad - 17 Feb 2005 08:14 GMT
> http://www.dissidentaction.com

         ...that link did not work !
PaulKing - 18 Feb 2005 03:51 GMT
It worked when I clicked on it.

http://www.dissidentaction.com
don warner saklad - 18 Feb 2005 03:02 GMT
> REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM

> THE MAIN DAG FORUM

         Which link is the main?

         Please use the same terms in referring to
         which one is that particular forum...
PaulKing - 18 Feb 2005 03:52 GMT
http://www.dissidentaction.com
dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu - 18 Feb 2005 11:34 GMT
> REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM
>
> I just got this in e-mail...

> THE MAIN DAG FORUM

         It is not yet clear what one among the many forums
         there is the particular one you referenced in the
         top message of this thread. Please use the exact
         same terminology used at that website.
         Precisely which of the forums links at that
         website is the one you mean when you wrote
         "REPOSTED FROM DAG FORUM"? Is it one of the links
         in the left sidebar?
PaulKing - 19 Feb 2005 12:48 GMT
Paul King in the New York Times    3         BryanDOwen     2/14/2005 9:46 PM

General forum
Current page
8 down at time of writing

http://www.dissidentaction.com
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 19 Feb 2005 22:58 GMT
>Paul King in the New York Times    3         BryanDOwen     2/14/2005 9:46 PM
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>http://www.dissidentaction.com

Cripes, you're useless.

http://groups.msn.com/Dissident-Action/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&I
D_Message=2652


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/14/health/14online.html

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