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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / AIDS / February 2005

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renzo - 02 Feb 2005 03:34 GMT
When one reads this groups one can be forgiven for thinking that this
community is out od step with reality.

Take Wikipedia for example, the article there says nothing about what
these denialists go on and on about. If there was a case then why are
their views not represented there and in such online knowledgebases?

Credit must go the editors of Wikipedia for seemingly getting it almost
right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
PaulKing - 02 Feb 2005 06:42 GMT
Wikipedia, a source of cutting edge expert opinion?

Hardly. It simply reprints the conventional view on any topic.

I very poor argument.
GMCarter - 02 Feb 2005 11:51 GMT
>Wikipedia, a source of cutting edge expert opinion?

A hell of a lot more than you!! With your demonstrated ability to
distort findings and actually alter text in your posts to suit your
point!
micky - 05 Feb 2005 12:09 GMT
>>Wikipedia, a source of cutting edge expert opinion?
>
> A hell of a lot more than you!! With your demonstrated ability to
> distort findings and actually alter text in your posts to suit your
> point!

It does not present a balanced view of the debate around HIV/AIDS. It
should.

It starts as follows:

"The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is a frequently mutating
retrovirus that attacks the human immune system and which has been shown
to cause acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS)."

They have kicked any dissenting view to the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_reappraisal
john - 02 Feb 2005 17:04 GMT
> Wikipedia, a source of cutting edge expert opinion?
>
> Hardly. It simply reprints the conventional view on any topic.
>
> I very poor argument.

Was that an argument?  LOL.
micky - 05 Feb 2005 12:03 GMT
> Wikipedia, a source of cutting edge expert opinion?
>
> Hardly. It simply reprints the conventional view on any topic.
>
> I very poor argument.

I don't see your opinion included there, Paul. Why is that? Surely you
should insist on your view being included in the main article. You can
just insert it yourself, as anyone can edit.
john - 02 Feb 2005 18:41 GMT
my favourite Encyclopedia story is Creightons:

Who can dispute the opinion that Dr. Charles Creighton was the greatest of
these doctors?   His History of Epidemics in Britain, in two volumes, 1891
and 1894, was justly called "the greatest medical work ever written by one
man".   Having previously written for the Encycloptedia Britannica, he was
asked to contribute the article on vaccination for the Ninth Edition.   Its
appearance, in 1888, was such a profound shock to the advocates of, and
vested interests concerned in, vaccination that Creighton's article was
replaced as soon as possible by what was little more than an advertisement
for glycerinated calf lymph written by one of its promoters.   Creighton,
perhaps the greatest medical mind of the last century, was virtually turned
out of his profession."--Lionel Dole http://www.whale.to/a/creighton4.html

You can guess who owns all the main ones.

> When one reads this groups one can be forgiven for thinking that this
> community is out od step with reality.
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>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV
 
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