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Invitation to a constructive debate (Mad assertions?)

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PaulKing - 12 Jan 2005 09:53 GMT
This may seem an insane idea but I wondered if any of the regular board
members would be interested in an 'off topic', polite and constructive
debate.

When I say 'off topic' that is not completely true. While the subjects
would have nothing to do with 'AIDS', the underlying hypothesis clearly is
relevant to that subject.

The hypothesis I am putting forth is that a great deal of what is
considered 'established scientific fact' makes little or no sense and in
many cases is outright nonsense. Further I believe I can demonstrate that
'expert' sources (Encyclopedia Britannica for example) publish information
that is wrong, and yet is generally accepted, even by experts in the
field.

The debate would cover three subjects: -
Confined to one string.

1). Why a magnetized magnet is NOT magnetized and therefore puts certain
assumptions based on Newtonian physics in question.

2). Why the accepted geometry of the Earth's magnetic field is
impossible.

3). Why the accepted theory that the King's chamber, in the Great Pyramid
of Gaza, was intended as the original resting place of the Pharaoh and
then abandoned in favor of a chamber in the middle of the structure is
utter nonsense. Also why the accepted theory that the pyramid was looted
is also illogical. And why the Kings chamber real function is blatantly
obvious and easily demonstrated.

If I can defend these three seemingly impossible assertions with any
reasonable degree of credibility, then I submit that have proven my point.
That point being that 'accepted science' can frequently be illogical and
irrational and capable of promoting pure garbage and yet is generally
accepted, without question.

Any one interested in the challenge?

Paul
Gary Stein - 12 Jan 2005 22:37 GMT
> This may seem an insane idea but I wondered if any of the regular board
> members would be interested in an 'off topic', polite and constructive
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> that is wrong, and yet is generally accepted, even by experts in the
> field.

Well for one I doubt any scientists would agree that the Encyclopedia
Britannica is a "expert source" because that is not it's purpose. The
Encyclopedia Britannica is more of a students reference meant to only
superficially cover the topics it contains. You will not find any scientific
paper that references the Encyclopedia Britannica as a source of data.

So it is up to you to show more proof in order for your statement "I believe
I can demonstrate that
'expert' sources (Encyclopedia Britannica for example) publish information
that is wrong, and yet is generally accepted, even by experts in the field."
to be taken as fact.

> The debate would cover three subjects: -
> Confined to one string.
>
> 1). Why a magnetized magnet is NOT magnetized and therefore puts certain
> assumptions based on Newtonian physics in question.

Not a field I know anything about so no real point in entering into a
debate. I unlike you know my own limitations and do not engage in debates on
topics that I have no understanding off.

> 2). Why the accepted geometry of the Earth's magnetic field is
> impossible.

See above.

> 3). Why the accepted theory that the King's chamber, in the Great Pyramid
> of Gaza, was intended as the original resting place of the Pharaoh and
> then abandoned in favor of a chamber in the middle of the structure is
> utter nonsense. Also why the accepted theory that the pyramid was looted
> is also illogical. And why the Kings chamber real function is blatantly
> obvious and easily demonstrated.

Again see above, however I would say that any theory put forth in modern
times about the builders intended use of any chambers in the Great Pyramid
are just that theories. In that there is only one inscription in the entire
pyramid that even mentions the name of the Pharaoh who built it, and that
inscription is not in the so called Kings Chamber or the so called Queens
Chamber. So there is no evidence in either the King or Queens chamber as to
there actual intended use. It is my understanding that there is an empty
stone box in the Queens Chamber that is large enough to have contained a
Kings Sarcophagus and that that is the only hard evidence that the chamber
was used to intern the King.

The lack of inscriptions from the Book of the Dead in both chambers is a
stark departure from the norms of Pharaohic burial practices but again the
lack of evidence is not evidence.

Gary Stein
Bennett - 15 Jan 2005 22:25 GMT
Why a manetized magnet is not magnetic....hmm...

I'm not sure it says anything at all about Newtonian physics, since
they don't apply to the electromagnetic spectrum.  AFAIK they're only
concerned with the movements of bodies with mass.  Einsteinian physics
maybe ;-)

Ok, for sh.ts and giggles I'm interested in this one.  Fire away.
Cheers

Bennett
 
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