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US Army proves 'AIDS' is not an std.

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PaulKing - 07 Jan 2005 04:53 GMT
The U.S. Army study of 1.1 million G.I.'s who were stationed in the
Phillipines (over a ten year period) and kept 100,000 prostitutes in
business (70% were said to be HIV positive.

The study showed only ONE was HIV positive and not sick.This was the only
case of mass HIV testing in the World.

Condoms in the Phillipines are of such poor quality that only 8% can even
hold water.
GMCarter - 07 Jan 2005 13:04 GMT
>The U.S. Army study of 1.1 million G.I.'s who were stationed in the
>Phillipines (over a ten year period) and kept 100,000 prostitutes in
>business (70% were said to be HIV positive.

More completely fabricated stories and numbers. Who can believe this
after you have been shown to be a liar time and time and time again?
PaulKing - 08 Jan 2005 00:39 GMT
From the greatest liar ofd all time that is almost a compliment.

Check the facts yourself bonehead.
PaulKing - 08 Jan 2005 06:36 GMT
Less than nine months after the US base in Manila was closed the Red Light
District was closed. It occupied three streets each abouth half a mile
long.

The US Army had, in essence, kept 70,000 to 100,000 prostitutes in
business.........and NO 'AIDS'.
GMCarter - 08 Jan 2005 11:14 GMT
>Less than nine months after the US base in Manila was closed the Red Light
>District was closed. It occupied three streets each abouth half a mile
>long.
>
>The US Army had, in essence, kept 70,000 to 100,000 prostitutes in
>business.........and NO 'AIDS'.

So you claim. Without any supporting documentation.

Here's a Q-tip Paul. The sh.t your so full of appears to be oozing out
the ears....
PaulKing - 09 Jan 2005 03:59 GMT
"Without any supporting documentation."

Not without supporting evidence.
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 10 Jan 2005 04:30 GMT
>Less than nine months after the US base in Manila was closed the Red Light
>District was closed. It occupied three streets each abouth half a mile
>long.
>
>The US Army had, in essence, kept 70,000 to 100,000 prostitutes in
>business.........and NO 'AIDS'.

70,000 prostitutes along a mile and a half of roads is about 8.8
prostitutes per foot.  Those roads must have been lined with high-rise
hook shops.

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David Canzi

Gary Stein - 08 Jan 2005 20:32 GMT
> The U.S. Army study of 1.1 million G.I.'s who were stationed in the
> Phillipines (over a ten year period) and kept 100,000 prostitutes in
> business (70% were said to be HIV positive.
>
> The study showed only ONE was HIV positive and not sick.This was the only
> case of mass HIV testing in the World.\

Really, the only case of mass HIV testing? Hummm you have posted numerous
articles purporting to reference the testing of millions of Russians so in
which post are you lieing Paul this one or the ones about the testing in
Russia?

Gary Stein
PaulKing - 09 Jan 2005 04:01 GMT
This  was at that time, BEFORE the Russian testing.

This happened just a few years after the US withdrawl from Manila.

You are not up on your modern history......or much else.
PaulKing - 09 Jan 2005 04:28 GMT
Human Life International Special Report No. 171
March 1999 Fr. Matthew Habiger

The big question: how successful is Operation AIDS-Free Philippines? Rene
has hard data. In 1984 the first 20 cases of AIDS appeared in the
Philippines. That same year, Thailand reported one case. While the
International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF) and the UN's WHO were
touting the condom as protection ("safe sex") against this deadly disease,
Rene promoted the only human solution that's also 100 percent effective.

As of 1998, 14 years later, the Philippines had only 1,130 known cases of
HIV-positive people and people with full-blown AIDS. There were 187 deaths
due to AIDS. This in a population of 73 million.

________
GMCarter - 09 Jan 2005 10:26 GMT
snip

>As of 1998, 14 years later, the Philippines had only 1,130 known cases of
>HIV-positive people and people with full-blown AIDS. There were 187 deaths
>due to AIDS. This in a population of 73 million.

Presuming Paul hasn't altered the content of this posting, let's say
that is a great thing for the Philippines. Indeed, this country has
had, happily, a very low incidence of HIV so far. But--

a) it doesn't mean that HIV doesn't exist or cause AIDS. They don't
dispute that.

b) that the need for vigilance has declined; nor

c) that things don't change. Data from 2004 are below.

Indeed, in 1970, there were zero cases of HIV or AIDS in most of the
world. First incident cases were undoubtedly occurring. Things were
changing. Then AIDS appeared. Caused by HIV.....

        George M. Carter

**
see
http://www.youandaids.org/Asia%20Pacific%20at%20a%20Glance/Philippines/index.asp
...
HIV Situation

The first case of HIV was reported in 1984. The epidemic in the
Philippines has been classified as ‘low level.’ It is estimated that
9,400 people were living with HIV/AIDS in the Philippines by the end
of 2001.

The Philippines has a relatively low prevalence rate in the world with
less than one percent of Filipino adults infected with HIV.
...
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 03:37 GMT
Learn your ABC.

None of your a,b,c points make any sense and do not explain anything.

Another 'tis so', 'tis so' post.
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 09 Jan 2005 20:20 GMT
>This  was at that time, BEFORE the Russian testing.
>
>This happened just a few years after the US withdrawl from Manila.

*What* happened a few years after the US withdrawal?

>You are not up on your modern history......or much else.

History isn't one of my good subjects, either, but if there was
something happening in the Philippines that required the presence of
1.1 million American servicemen for 10 years, and close enough to
Manila to keep 100,000 prostitutes in business there, even I would
have heard about it.

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David Canzi

PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 03:39 GMT
Not 1.1 million at one time. They rotated over 10 years idiot.

If you didn't know America had a huge base in Manila your history clearly
is lacking.

Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 04:02 GMT
HISTORY LESSON

US Bases In The Philippines

INTRODUCTION The longest relationship between the United States of America
and a Southeast Asian country has been the US military involvement in the
Philippines. For almost a century, the US military had use of two major
bases in the Philippines, Clark Air Force Base, and Subic Naval Station.
It took a strong anti-nuclear, anti-imperialist mass movement and a
majority vote in the Philippine Senate to finally end the long US military
occupation. The 1991 US military withdrawal from the Philippines was
expected to cause a “power vacuum” that would have adverse economic and
political effects on the former US colony. Was this really the case in the
Philippines?

Economic Effects of the Bases The Economic impact of the US Bases on the
Philippine economy was undoubtingly significant. The US military spent
over $500 million a year in the country on salaries, the purchase of
supplies and services, and other military and economic aid given to the
Philippine government. One estimate claimed that the total amount of
economic contribution amounted to as much as US$ 1 billion annually . In
March of 1987 the Philippine News reported that the bases employed 23,168
full-time workers, 22,834 contract workers, and 444 concessionaires for a
total of 46,446 Filipinos with annual salaries totaling $96 million . The
US Information Service claimed that, “The U.S. facilities create a great
deal of indirect employment by doing business with Philippine companies –
over 900 had contracts with the bases in 1985….” The Bases seemed to be
pumping in millions of U.S dollars into an impoverished economy. Yet these
figures can be quite misleading. Direct Filipino employment on the U.S.
bases only amounted to some 5% of the total 1.18 million Filipinos
employed by the Philippine government at that time

http://www.wowessays.com/dbase/ae4/lmy301.shtml

_______

Subsequently, the U.S. built 23 military installations covering a total
area of more than 240,000 hectares ofland (2,400 sq.km.) by the time of
the signing of the Military Bases Agreement in 1947. At its peak the bases
occupied nearly 1% of the country's total land area not to mention 11,000
hectares of territorial waters and a large swath of air space.

_______

The number of prostituted persons in the Philippines is about the size of
the country's manufacturing workforce, according to Rene Ofreneo, a former
Philippine labor undersecretary and an expert on the sex trade. (Dario
Agnote, "Sex trade key part of S.E. Asian economies, study says," Kyodo
News, 18 August 1998)

There are 400,000 to 500,000 prostituted persons in the Philippines.
Prostituted persons are mainly adult women, but there are also male,
transvestite and child prostitutes, both girls and boys. (International
Labor Organization. Dario Agnote, "Sex trade key part of S.E. Asian
economies, study says," Kyodo News, 18 August 1998)

In the Philippines, a recent study showed there are about 75,000 children,
who were forced into prostitution due to poverty. (Dario Agnote, "Sex
trade key part of S.E. Asian economies, study says," Kyodo News, 18 August
1998)

There are 400,000 women in prostitution in 1998, excluding unregistered,
seasonal prostitutes, overseas entertainers and victims of external
trafficking. One fourth of them are children and each year 3,266 more
children are forced into the sex industry. (GABRIELA, Diana Mendoza, "RP
Has 400,000 Prostitutes," TODAY, 25 February 1998)

Military prostitution, it added, has always been a problem in the past
when the US bases were still in the country. Past experience clearly
showed that the security of the Filipino people, especially women and
children, from the US military was never taken into account.
("Ex-streetwalkers fight VFA: Form advocacy groups in urban centers," The
Philippine Journal, 18 September 1998)
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 04:05 GMT
HISTORY LESSON

US Bases In The Philippines

INTRODUCTION The longest relationship between the United States of America
and a Southeast Asian country has been the US military involvement in the
Philippines. For almost a century, the US military had use of two major
bases in the Philippines, Clark Air Force Base, and Subic Naval Station.
It took a strong anti-nuclear, anti-imperialist mass movement and a
majority vote in the Philippine Senate to finally end the long US military
occupation. The 1991 US military withdrawal from the Philippines was
expected to cause a “power vacuum” that would have adverse economic and
political effects on the former US colony. Was this really the case in the
Philippines?

Economic Effects of the Bases The Economic impact of the US Bases on the
Philippine economy was undoubtingly significant. The US military spent
over $500 million a year in the country on salaries, the purchase of
supplies and services, and other military and economic aid given to the
Philippine government. One estimate claimed that the total amount of
economic contribution amounted to as much as US$ 1 billion annually . In
March of 1987 the Philippine News reported that the bases employed 23,168
full-time workers, 22,834 contract workers, and 444 concessionaires for a
total of 46,446 Filipinos with annual salaries totaling $96 million . The
US Information Service claimed that, “The U.S. facilities create a great
deal of indirect employment by doing business with Philippine companies –
over 900 had contracts with the bases in 1985….” The Bases seemed to be
pumping in millions of U.S dollars into an impoverished economy. Yet these
figures can be quite misleading. Direct Filipino employment on the U.S.
bases only amounted to some 5% of the total 1.18 million Filipinos
employed by the Philippine government at that time

http://www.wowessays.com/dbase/ae4/lmy301.shtml

_______

Subsequently, the U.S. built 23 military installations covering a total
area of more than 240,000 hectares ofland (2,400 sq.km.) by the time of
the signing of the Military Bases Agreement in 1947. At its peak the bases
occupied nearly 1% of the country's total land area not to mention 11,000
hectares of territorial waters and a large swath of air space.

_______

The number of prostituted persons in the Philippines is about the size of
the country's manufacturing workforce, according to Rene Ofreneo, a former
Philippine labor undersecretary and an expert on the sex trade. (Dario
Agnote, "Sex trade key part of S.E. Asian economies, study says," Kyodo
News, 18 August 1998)

There are 400,000 to 500,000 prostituted persons in the Philippines.
Prostituted persons are mainly adult women, but there are also male,
transvestite and child prostitutes, both girls and boys. (International
Labor Organization. Dario Agnote, "Sex trade key part of S.E. Asian
economies, study says," Kyodo News, 18 August 1998)

In the Philippines, a recent study showed there are about 75,000 children,
who were forced into prostitution due to poverty. (Dario Agnote, "Sex
trade key part of S.E. Asian economies, study says," Kyodo News, 18 August
1998)

There are 400,000 women in prostitution in 1998, excluding unregistered,
seasonal prostitutes, overseas entertainers and victims of external
trafficking. One fourth of them are children and each year 3,266 more
children are forced into the sex industry. (GABRIELA, Diana Mendoza, "RP
Has 400,000 Prostitutes," TODAY, 25 February 1998)

Military prostitution, it added, has always been a problem in the past
when the US bases were still in the country. Past experience clearly
showed that the security of the Filipino people, especially women and
children, from the US military was never taken into account.
("Ex-streetwalkers fight VFA: Form advocacy groups in urban centers," The
Philippine Journal, 18 September 1998)
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 04:07 GMT
"Why don't Filipinos want US troops in the Philippines?

There is a long history of US military intervention in the Philippines
from the Philippine-American War (1899-1916) in which the US colonized the
Philippines. Filipinos resisted and one-eighth of the Filipino people were
killed. Even though the Philippines officially became independent from the
US in 1946, the US ensured control of the US military bases in the
Philippines and access to Philippine natural resources.

The US military bases were finally kicked out in 1991 after mass protest
from the Filipino people who were tired of special protected status for US
soldiers, toxic wastes (that until today, the US refuses to clean up), the
prostitution of Filipinas, and the spread of alcoholism and drug use.
Filipinos don't want these again. "
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 10 Jan 2005 05:05 GMT
>Not 1.1 million at one time. They rotated over 10 years idiot.

They must have gotten really dizzy rotating for 10 years...

So how many soldiers were *typically* there, and how often would
each have to go to the high-rise brothels to keep 70,000 to 100,000
prostitutes in business?

Signature

David Canzi

GMCarter - 10 Jan 2005 10:55 GMT
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 05:05:00 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable address)
wrote:

>>Not 1.1 million at one time. They rotated over 10 years idiot.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>each have to go to the high-rise brothels to keep 70,000 to 100,000
>prostitutes in business?

Do you REALLY wanna go down that path?? Into the maze of Paul's
bizarre brain and his feverish conception of numbers?? Yow! Brave
fellow!!

Better to whirl dervishly....
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT
" Into the maze of Paul's bizarre brain and his feverish conception of
numbers?"

You mean like they should add up?
GMCarter - 11 Jan 2005 00:50 GMT
>" Into the maze of Paul's bizarre brain and his feverish conception of
>numbers?"
>
>You mean like they should add up?

Hahahahahahahaha! ROFLMAO.

Thanks, Paul. Gosh, yer a card....
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 21:32 GMT
"So how many soldiers were *typically* there, and how often would each have
to go to the high-rise brothels to keep 70,000 to 100,000 prostitutes in
business?"

You figure it out.
GMCarter - 10 Jan 2005 10:54 GMT
>Not 1.1 million at one time. They rotated over 10 years idiot.

Sufi sex workers???
idiot!!
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT
FU idiot.
GMCarter - 11 Jan 2005 00:51 GMT
>FU idiot.

Thanks dear, but you ain't my type.....not into barebacking
jackanapes....
Gary Stein - 10 Jan 2005 18:54 GMT
> This  was at that time, BEFORE the Russian testing.
>
> This happened just a few years after the US withdrawl from Manila.
>
> You are not up on your modern history......or much else.

No I was fully aware that the Russian testing occurred, I just showed you in
yet another lie................

Gary Stein
PaulKing - 10 Jan 2005 21:35 GMT
What lie?  Just because EVERY word you utter is a lie does not mean others
do the same.

You really are a total scumbag.
 
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