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PaulKing - 09 Dec 2004 20:59 GMT

You are mixing figures from the United States with those from the UK. I
quoted from a great number of sources that differ by a few months in their
estimates of usage.

The slight differences make no difference to the points at hand.

The real decline happened in 1992.

The figures were distorted by the revised definition.

The average use in 1996 (when even the distorted CDC figures show a
decline) was in the region of 19% to 25%. These people had JUST STARTED
taking HAART, would not reflect in mortality statistics (if they died) and
would have no effect on CDC statistics.

'Infections' also dropped. Clearly this could not be the result of HAART.

You are grasping at straws to try to confuse the reader and escape the
clear fact you have been proved WRONG and a lier.

Sad!

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Gary Stein - 15 Dec 2004 07:02 GMT

> You are mixing figures from the United States with those from the UK. I
> quoted from a great number of sources that differ by a few months in their
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> Sad!

Here are the numbers after half a day of roaming through the CDC data;

HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report

The HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report contains tabular and graphic information
about U.S. AIDS and HIV case reports, including data by state, metropolitan
statistical area, mode of exposure to HIV, sex, race/ethnicity, age group,
vital status, and case definition category. It is published annually by the
Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, National Center for HIV, STD, and TB
Prevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), usually in the
early fall. The mid-year edition was discontinued after the 2001 reporting
year

From the following URLS http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasrlink.HTM

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/2003SurveillanceReport.pdf
Cases of HIV infection and AIDS in the United States, 2003 Vol. 15

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1402.htm

Cases of HIV infection and AIDS in the United States, 2002 (HIV/AIDS
Surveillance Report, Vol.14

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302.htm

U.S. HIV and AIDS cases reported through December 2001 Year-end edition
Vol.13, No.2

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hivsur92.pdf

U.S. HIV and AIDS cases reported through December 1997 Year-end edition Vol.
9, No. 2

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hivsur82.pdf

U.S. HIV and AIDS cases reported through December 1996 Year-end edition Vol.
8, No. 2

Year
AIDS DEATHS

Pre 1981
31

1981
128

1982
463

1983
1,508

1984
3,505

1985
6,972

1986
12,110

1987
16,412

1988
21,119

1989
27,631

1990
31,071

1991
36,066

1992
41,270

1993
45,850

1994
50,842

1995
51,670

1996
38,296

1997
22,245

1998
19,005

1999
18,491

2000
17,741

2001
18,524

2002
17,557

2003
18,017

Gary Stein

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