You are mixing figures from the United States with those from the UK. I
quoted from a great number of sources that differ by a few months in their
estimates of usage.
The slight differences make no difference to the point at hand.
The real decline happened in 1992.
The figures were distorted by the revised definition.
The average use in 1996 (when even the distorted CDC figures show a
decline) was in the region of 19% to 25%. These people had JUST STARTED
taking HAART, would not reflect in mortality statistics (if they died) and
would have no effect on CDC statistics.
'Infections' also dropped. Clearly this could not be the result of HAART.
You are grasping at straws to try to confuse the reader and escape the
clear fact you have been proved WRONG and a lier.
Sad!
> You are mixing figures from the United States with those from the UK. I
> quoted from a great number of sources that differ by a few months in their
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> The real decline happened in 1992.
You have NEVER produced a single piece of evidence supporting the 1992 date,
even though you have repeatedly been asked to do so. Again did people
magically come back from the dead or what happened in order for your
statement to be true?
> The figures were distorted by the revised definition.
The mortality figures can not be " distorted by the revised definition" in
that they do NOT talk about percentages of deaths rather they count the
ACTUAL number of people who DIED.
> The average use in 1996 (when even the distorted CDC figures show a
> decline) was in the region of 19% to 25%. These people had JUST STARTED
> taking HAART, would not reflect in mortality statistics (if they died) and
> would have no effect on CDC statistics.
Well in my case in 1996 I was in the hospital days away from death when I
started HAART and the doctors tell me that was significant in my surviving.
I know of many others in the same situation (there were 50 other AIDS
patients in the AIDS ward at Georgetown University Hospital at the same time
I was then and they all received HAART as well.
So yes a 19% use of HAART could indeed count for a similar decrease in AIDS
deaths at that time. You probably are not aware that HAART treatment shows
it's greatest impact during the first few weeks of treatment but this is a
fact thus again showing that indeed the impact is highly likely to have
occurred.
> 'Infections' also dropped. Clearly this could not be the result of HAART.
Yes your correct up to a point the main reason for the drop in infections
was that it was a time of terror in the gay community due to the thousands
of deaths that had already occurred. Thus the prevention messages were being
taken very seriously, secondly it is a fact that those under successful
HAART therapy are not as infectious as is someone who is newly infected this
could also account for a very small decrease in new infections. (Note I have
not checked the CDC numbers to see if in fact infections dropped in 1996 as
you claim and being as most of what you claim is a lie I am not ceding that
this claim of yours is correct just giving you some reasons why it might be
plausible for such a decrease to have occurred).
> You are grasping at straws to try to confuse the reader and escape the
> clear fact you have been proved WRONG and a lier.
Yes that is indeed a description of you Paul glad to see that you finaly
recognize that simple fact.
Gary Stein