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A little reported fact is that AIDS is not among the fifteen leading causes of deaths for Americans. In annual death rates, AIDS lags behind motor

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PaulKing - 01 Dec 2004 21:25 GMT
A little reported fact is that AIDS is not among the fifteen leading causes
of deaths for Americans. In annual death rates, AIDS lags behind motor
vehicle accidents, non-vehicular accidents and adverse events, flu and
pneumonia, diabetes, septicemia, Alzheimer's disease, and homicide. (43)

It is often reported that AIDS is the leading cause of death among
Americans aged 25 to 44. This statement inspires great fear and concern
until carefully examined.

Only two-tenths of one percent (0.2%) of persons in this age group die of
any cause each year, and among these, deaths from AIDS represent about
three one-hundredths of one percent (0.03%).
However, since AIDS constitutes the leading category for fatalities at
about 15% (85% of people within this age range die of other causes), it
is
possible to call AIDS the leading killer. (44)

For more information on the use of AIDS statistics, see Public Health,
Public Relations and AIDS on page 45.
Portraying AIDS as our biggest health threat gives AIDS funding priority
over problems that affect far greater numbers of Americans.

According to findings by the Institute of Medicine, NIH research
expenditures in 1996 averaged $1,160 for every American who died of heart
disease, $4,700 for each one who died of cancer, and more than $43,000 for
every death in a person diagnosed with AIDS. (45)
Death - 01 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT
"PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote in message
> A little reported fact
>
> It is often reported that AIDS is the leading cause of death among
> Americans aged 25 to 44.

That is African-Americans and Latinos.
Your article has numbers relating to footnotes
yet I see you omitted them.

Either post the article in toto or supply a URL.
Gary Stein - 02 Dec 2004 18:49 GMT
> "PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote in message
>> A little reported fact
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Either post the article in toto or supply a URL.

Don't hold your breath waiting for Paul to post a URL or the whole report he
rarely does. The reason for that is that he is either quoting data out of
context as he did in this case, or is pulling the numbers he sites out of
thin air and does not have a URL to post, or he has simply changed the
numbers in the original report to suit his own agenda. All of these exploits
of Paul's have been proven here on MHA hundreds of times yet Paul simply
ignores those pesky truths and continues on his marry way lying and
misquoting in his pathetic attempt to confuse as many people as he can.

Gary Stein
Death - 02 Dec 2004 20:38 GMT
"Gary Stein" <ge.stein@verizon.net> wrote in message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> context as he did in this case, or is pulling the numbers he sites out of
> thin air

The subjects here being discussed, have been on going at alt.FFF
for years. The same game has been played by every liberal and apologist
that has slithered in.

Many of these same articles have shown up in toto and I recognize them.
You asked earlier if I thought con-dumbs cause cancer. I don't know.
I do know hiv causes aids and there is no cure.

Are con-dumbs the answer, who cares.
Do con-dumbs help prevent the spread of diseases, who cares.
If you (in general) require a condumb, you are sticking your dick in the
wrong hole.
GMCarter - 02 Dec 2004 21:52 GMT
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>If you (in general) require a condumb, you are sticking your dick in the
>wrong hole.

Which hole is that?

The a.shole (not referring to you at the moment) is found on men and
women too! Heavens. The vagina is found in women. Each can act as a
more likely place for HIV to be transmitted if the insertive partner
is HIV+ -- and not using a condom.

The mouth--another hole--is also utilized. This presents a small risk.

Insertion by an HIV- individual into an HIV+ anus or vagina may result
in the insertive partner becoming infected too. This happens. Again, a
condom makes sense.

Ears and nostrils also represent orifices. Were you thinking of these,
perhaps?

Sigh. Glimmerings of intelligence from you are subsumed in your
infantile bigotry.

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Dec 2004 00:43 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> snip
> >If you (in general) require a condumb, you are sticking your dick in the
> >wrong hole.
>
> Which hole is that?

The wrong hole.

> The a.shole (not referring to you at the moment) is found on men and
> women too!

Very good.

>Heavens. The vagina is found in women.

LOL, very good

>Each can act as a
> more likely place for HIV to be transmitted if the insertive partner
> is HIV+ -- and not using a condom.

Then, that is the wrong hole.

> The mouth--another hole--is also utilized. This presents a small risk.

If the mouth has a chance of passing aids, it is the wrong hole.

> Insertion by an HIV- individual into an HIV+ anus or vagina may result
> in the insertive partner becoming infected too. This happens. Again, a
> condom makes sense.

If the anus or vigina is hiv pos, it is the wrong hole.

> Ears and nostrils also represent orifices. Were you thinking of these,
> perhaps?

If the ears and nostrils can pass aids, and (you) stick your dick there,
that too is the wrong hole.

> Sigh. Glimmerings of intelligence from you are subsumed in your
> infantile bigotry.

Bigotry, what a f.cking joke you are. I specified no hole but the wrong
hole.
I never said either man, woman, goat or beehive, just the wrong hole.

You allowed your perverted thought process to do your talking
and showed me the results of your bigotry.
GMCarter - 03 Dec 2004 12:40 GMT
snip

>Bigotry, what a f.cking joke you are. I specified no hole but the wrong
>hole.
>I never said either man, woman, goat or beehive, just the wrong hole.

LOL. You're full of sh.t. You're the guy that posts with re lines
lilke "niggers or faggots with AIDS". Face it.  You're a bigot!

A person with HIV does not possess the wrong hole or the wrong penis.
It's not ABOUT the wrong hole, so not only are you a bigot, you're an
idiot.

It's about people having sex. Or using needles. And how do you prevent
passing HIV along if you have it or acquiring it if you don't. And
living life, celebrating life in ways that don't create more suffering
or hasten the death that awaits us all.

>You allowed your perverted thought process to do your talking
>and showed me the results of your bigotry.

Again, more of your bigotry, dear. I merely clarified your blunt,
ignorant statement.

        George M. Carter
Death - 03 Dec 2004 15:10 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

> snip

> LOL. You're full of sh.t. You're the guy that posts with re lines
> lilke "niggers or faggots with AIDS". Face it.  You're a bigot!

Now I understand, you weren't talking about the post we are currently in,
but one from a completely different topic, from a different thread, from a
different
time frame and referrered to it in this topic, how faggot of ya.

> A person with HIV does not possess the wrong hole or the wrong penis.
> It's not ABOUT the wrong hole, so not only are you a bigot, you're an
> idiot.
>
> It's about people having sex. Or using needles. And how do you prevent
> passing HIV along if you have it or acquiring it if you don't.

Another example of doublespeak.

You claim first it isn't about the wrong hole, and the next line you say
it is about how to prevent passing or acquiring
aids from f.cking the wrong hole.

All of this to avoid the fact you misrepresented (A little reported
fact...),
omitted footnotes and failed to post a URL so I could see
how fraudulent your numbers are.
GMCarter - 04 Dec 2004 13:13 GMT
snip
>> LOL. You're full of sh.t. You're the guy that posts with re lines
>> lilke "niggers or faggots with AIDS". Face it.  You're a bigot!
>
>Now I understand, you weren't talking about the post we are currently in,
>but one from a completely different topic, from a different thread, from a
>different time frame and referrered to it in this topic, how faggot of ya.

LOL. You make the point beautifully.

Your use of the term "wrong hole" is your bigotry writ large. Here
it's about people living with HIV as if it is a "wrong hole" to have
sexual relations with someone with HIV. I've known numerous
"discordant" couples. Neither one is "wrong."

Ergo: you're a bigot. And frankly, I don't buy the bullshit that you
weren't making a negative comment about anal sex. But that's an issue
in your little head.

snip...

>All of this to avoid the fact you misrepresented (A little reported
>fact...),
>omitted footnotes and failed to post a URL so I could see
>how fraudulent your numbers are.

Say what?

        George M. Carter
Death - 06 Dec 2004 14:53 GMT
"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message

"Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote:

> snip
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> LOL. You make the point beautifully.

Naturally

>  as if it is a "wrong hole" to have
> sexual relations with someone with HIV.

See, you aren't as stupid as you pretend.
For the record, or you a bugchaser or giftgiver ?

>I've known numerous
> "discordant" couples. Neither one is "wrong."

You use known in the past tense.
Another clue that you know the truth, but deny it.

> Ergo: you're a bigot. And frankly, I don't buy the bullshit that you
> weren't making a negative comment about anal sex.

If what I said is that hard to deal with, by
all means, change it to what I didn't say.
I've seen you do that many times with many different
articles you post.
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 04 Dec 2004 22:02 GMT
>snip
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>LOL. You're full of sh.t. You're the guy that posts with re lines
>lilke "niggers or faggots with AIDS". Face it.  You're a bigot!

I think Death deliberately didn't say what he meant by "wrong hole", so
that the misc.health.aids audience would make the obvious assumption,
which he could then deny.  He trolled the group, I suspect, with no
specific idea of who or how many would take his bait.

This is in contrast to his article about Robert Warren, in which he
was trolling specifically for Paul King, and got him.

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