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Sex with a hooker vs. HIV infection

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?_? - 16 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
Hi,

I had sex today with a hooker (not one of those standing on the street but a
19 y.o. girl met at an Internet chat) - she says she's been doing it for 8
months - thus my question: what are the odds that I have got the rest of my
life f***ed? The penetration was with condom (it did not break nor slip),
yet the oral was not... I would also like to take a tes, yet I have to wait
a bit for that, ain't I? (at least here in Poland, as we are waaaaay behind
the latest achievments ;-) )

TIA
GMCarter - 17 Oct 2004 10:09 GMT
>Hi,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>a bit for that, ain't I? (at least here in Poland, as we are waaaaay behind
>the latest achievments ;-) )

There is no way to know, though from what you describe, it seems
unlikely. Oral sex is a low risk. Also just because she was a sex
worker does not mean she is necessarily HIV+.

Best bet is to wait about 4-6 weeks and get a test for HIV.

Meantime, you can get tested for other sexually transmitted diseases
such as syphilis or gonorrhea, if these are of concern.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 18 Oct 2004 06:09 GMT
Prostitutes are not even included in the CDC 'high risks' groups.

________

The 'Prostitute' Paradox

If "AIDS" ("HIV") was sexually transmitted, we should find it in sex-trade
workers. The following references, including five studies published in
prestigious scientific journals, demonstrate NO sexual transmission.

In this study, the authors estimated overall and cause-specific mortality
among prostitute women. They recorded information on prostitute women
identified by police and health department surveillance in Colorado
Springs, Colorado, from 1967 to 1999. The authors assessed cause-specific
mortality in this open cohort of 1,969 women [...]

Violence and drug use were the predominant causes of death, both during
periods of prostitution and during the whole observation period. [...]

Deaths from acquired immunodeficiency syndrome occurred exclusively among
prostitutes who admitted to injecting drug use or were inferred to have a
history of it.

Potterat J J et al. Mortality in a Long-term Open Cohort of Prostitute
Women. Am J Epidemiol 2004;159:778-785.

During a 36-month period, a multidisciplinary team manned a van that
visited the major location of open prostitution in the Tel Aviv area
[...]

All 128 females who did not admit to drug abuse were seronegative.

A thorough search of recent literature fail to demonstrate unequivocal
seropositivity among British, French, German, Italian, or Dutch
prostitutes without drug histories.

Modan, B et al. Prevalence of HIV antibodies in transsexual and female
prostitutes, American Journal of Public Health. 1992;82(4):590-592.

Michael Wright also report  this study in A Former AIDS Researcher Has
Second Thoughts, part one: Manufacturing the AIDS Scare.

In order to determine whether prostitutes operating outside of areas of
high drug abuse have equally elevated rates of infection, 354 prostitutes
were surveyed in Tijuana, Mexico [...]

None of the 354 [blood] samples [...] was positive for HIV-1 or HIV-2[…]

Condoms were used [...] for less than half of their sexual contacts.
Only 4 female prostitutes (1%) admitted to ever having abused intravenous
drugs.

Infection with HIV was not found in this prostitute population despite the
close proximity to neighboring San Diego, CA, which has a high incidence
of diagnosed cases of AIDS, and to Los Angeles, which has a reported 4%
prevalence of HIV infection in prostitutes.

Hyams KC et al. HIV infection in a non-drug abusing prostitute
population.
Scandinavian Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1989;21(3):353-4.

David Crowe also report this study in Referenced Quotes about Transmission
of HIV and AIDS.
448 licensed female prostitutes in Nuremburg, West Germany, were studied
in March and April 1986.
No prostitute tested was anti-HIV positive [...] they had been prostitutes
for 77 months on average [...]

The mean number of clients was 13 per week
[...]

This heterosexually very active group of women has remained free from HIV
infection.

Smith GL, Smith KF. Lack of HIV infection and condom use in licensed
prostitutes. Lancet. 1986;1392.
In September, 1985, we collected 56 samples of blood in the rue
Saint-Denis, the most notorious street in Paris for prostitution. [...]

No prostitute was seropositive.
These women, aged 18-60 have sexual intercourse 15-25 times daily and do
not routinely use protection. Altough contracting AIDS is greatly feared
by these women, only 15 used condoms with all their customers.

[...] none of the Paris prostitute was a drug addict.
Brenky-Faudeux D, Fribourg-Blanc A. HTLV-III antibody in prostitutes.
Lancet. 1985;2:1424.

The same results were reported from Amsterdam, one of the world's centers
of legalized prostitution. When several hundred non-drug using prostitutes
were studied, investigators found no HIV-positive women even though they
averaged more than 200 clients per year

Coutinho RA, van der Helm TH. [No indications for LAV/HTLV-III in
non-drug-using prostitutes in Amsterdam]. Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd,
1986;130(11):508.
As reported by David W. Rasnick, Ph.D., in a letter published by the
British Medical Journal Sex has nothing to do with AIDS.

Of course, sex-trade workers taking hard drugs are more likely to become
sick, it has nothing to do with "HIV" or "AIDS". Strong drugs have a
proven immune suppressive effect, and intravenous drugs injections often
carry some foreign proteins, adding an extra burden on the immune system.
GMCarter - 18 Oct 2004 12:39 GMT
>Prostitutes are not even included in the CDC 'high risks' groups.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>workers. The following references, including five studies published in
>prestigious scientific journals, demonstrate NO sexual transmission.

That doesn't mean there wasn't any. Just that they didn't look for it.

I'm putting the citation first. The abstract is below it. The period
was 1967 to 1999, a 32-year period. HIV disease and AIDS began to be
seen in 1981.

>Potterat J J et al. Mortality in a Long-term Open Cohort of Prostitute
>Women. Am J Epidemiol 2004;159:778-785.

In this study, the authors estimated overall and cause-specific
mortality among prostitute women. They recorded information on
prostitute women identified by police and health department
surveillance in Colorado Springs, Colorado, from 1967 to 1999. The
authors assessed cause-specific mortality in this open cohort of 1,969
women using the Social Security Death Index and the National Death
Index, augmented by individual investigations. They identified 117
definite or probable deaths and had sufficient information on 100 to
calculate a crude mortality rate (CMR) of 391 per 100,000 (95%
confidence interval (CI): 314, 471). In comparison with the general
population, the standardized mortality ratio (SMR), adjusted for age
and race, was 1.9 (95% CI: 1.5, 2.3). For the period of presumed
active prostitution only, the CMR was 459 per 100,000 (95% CI: 246,
695) and the SMR was 5.9 (95% CI: 3.2, 9.0). Violence and drug use
were the predominant causes of death, both during periods of
prostitution and during the whole observation period. The CMR for
death by homicide among active prostitutes was 229 per 100,000 (95%
CI: 79, 378), and the SMR was 17.7 (95% CI: 6.2, 29.3). Deaths from
acquired immunodeficiency syndrome occurred exclusively among
prostitutes who admitted to injecting drug use or were inferred to
have a history of it.

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>A thorough search of recent literature fail to demonstrate unequivocal
>seropositivity among British, French, German, Italian, or Dutch
>prostitutes without drug histories.

This may be the case as drug users may be less apt to protect
themselves and/or more likely to relinquish the right to safer sex and
the john using a condom in order to obtain drugs. Or they may share
needles which enhance the risk of infection. Other sex workers who are
not injecting are more likely to negotiate safer sex practices.

There's plenty more studies than just these couple that this person
cherry-picked and threw his own convenient spin on. The one below
shows that HIV is one of the higher incidence infections in the cohort
evaluated among various STDs.

But still, relatively low. Many sex workers realize the risks of HIV
disease and have made efforts to respond. In some cultures, this has
resulted in changes in stupid laws against this old practice. In
Calcutta in India, the Sonagachi group of sex workers has organized
and the incidence of HIV has dropped considerably. By contrast, in
Mumbai, where sex workers are persecuted by police and the judicial
system, the incidence is much higher.

As to the frequency of "johns" becoming infected (as opposed to being
the ones who infect the sex workers), I think such a study would be
hard to do. But the last abstract below shows it is not impossible to
at least interview them.

        George M. Carter

**
Gutierrez M, Tajada P, Alvarez A, De Julian R, Baquero M, Soriano V,
Holguin A.  Prevalence of HIV-1 non-B subtypes, syphilis, HTLV, and
hepatitis B and C viruses among immigrant sex workers in Madrid,
Spain. J Med Virol. 2004 Oct 13;74(4):521-527 [Epub ahead of print]

Microbiology Unit, Hospital Carlos III, Madrid, Spain.

Sexually transmitted disease (STD) remains a major public health
challenge in developed countries, exacerbated by the advent of the HIV
epidemic. The objectives of this study were to assess the prevalence
of serological markers of syphilis, HIV-1/2, HTLV-I/II, HBV, and HCV
infections among immigrant sex workers in Madrid, Spain and to
characterize the HIV-1 variants in seropositive individuals. Sera from
762 immigrant commercial sex workers (75.3% from sub-Saharan Africa,
18.2% from South America, and 6.4% from Eastern Europe) were collected
between 1998 and 2003 in Madrid and examined. Antibody detection was
performed by screening assays (RPR, ELISAs) and confirmed by FTA-Abs,
LIAs and Western-blot tests. HIV-1 subtyping was carried out by
phylogenetic analyses of the protease and envelope genes. Antibodies
to HIV-1 were found in 5.2%, while 3.5% tested positive for HBsAg, 3%
for syphilis antibodies, 0.8% for HCV antibodies, and 0.2% for HTLV-I
antibodies. None were reactive for HIV-2 or HTLV-II antibodies. HIV-1
seroprevalence among Africans and Ecuadorians was 4.5 and 10.9%,
respectively. All HIV-1 seropositive Ecuadorians were transsexual men,
and 28.6% had active syphilis infection. Up to 80% of HIV-1 positive
specimens were characterized as non-B subtypes, with subtypes G, A,
and G/A recombinants being the most frequent among African
individuals. In contrast, South Americans with HIV-1 infection carried
exclusively subtype B variants. A relatively high proportion of
immigrant sex workers in Madrid were infected with HIV-1 and syphilis,
whereas infections with hepatitis viruses or HTLV were uncommon. J.
Med. Virol. 74:521-527, 2004. (c) 2004 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

**
Larsen MM, Sartie MT, Musa T, Casey SE, Tommy J, Saldinger M. Changes
in HIV/AIDS/STI knowledge, attitudes and practices among commercial
sex workers and military forces in Port Loko, Sierra Leone. Disasters.
2004 Sep;28(3):239-254.

Heilbrunn Department of Population and Family Health, Mailman School
of Public Health, Columbia University, 60 Haven Avenue B-3, New York,
New York 10032, USA. ml2223@columbia.edu

Sierra Leone suffered from 11 years of civil war (1991-2002) resulting
in tens of thousands of deaths and mutilations together with massive
population displacement. In 2001, ARC International, Sierra Leone
conducted a baseline survey of 201 commercial sex workers (CSWs) and
202 military respondents on the knowledge, attitudes and practices
surrounding HIV/AIDS and STIs in Port Loko, Sierra Leone. In 2003, a
comparable post-intervention survey of 202 CSWs and 205 military
respondents was performed. Comparison of baseline and
post-intervention results showed that HIV/AIDS knowledge increased
among both groups, with those able to name three effective means of
avoiding AIDS increasing from 5 per cent to 70 per cent among CSWs,
and 11 to 75 per cent among the military. Reported condom use during
last sex increased among CSWs from 38 to 68 per cent and among
military from 39 to 68 per cent. These results demonstrate that,
despite the challenges inherent in a post-conflict country,
good-quality AIDS-prevention programmes can be effective.

**
Wee S, Barrett ME, Lian WM, Jayabaskar T, Chan KW. Determinants of
inconsistent condom use with female sex workers among men attending
the STD clinic in Singapore. Sex Transm Infect. 2004
Aug;80(4):310-314.

Department of Community, Occupational and Family Medicine (MD3),
Faculty of Medicine, National University of Singapore, 16 Medical
Drive, Singapore 117597. cmewees@nus.edu.sg

BACKGROUND/ OBJECTIVES: Female sex workers and their male clients have
been identified as risk groups for the transmission of STDs and HIV.
Behavioural interventions targeting clients need to address
inconsistent condom use among them. The aim of the study is to assess
the sociodemographic, behavioural, and psychological factors
associated with inconsistent condom use among clients of sex workers.
METHODS: 229 male patients attending the STD clinic in Singapore who
reported paying for sex in the previous 6 months were interviewed.
Response rate was 91%. RESULTS: Overall, 45% used condoms
inconsistently; these clients were more likely to have poor STD
knowledge, visit sex workers five or more times in the past 6 months,
have lower self efficacy, less favourable social norms for condom use,
and more likely to forget condom use when intoxicated (alcohol
impaired decision making). CONCLUSIONS: Behavioural interventions for
clients need to improve STD/HIV transmission knowledge and focus on
improving client's self efficacy in using condoms.
PaulKing - 18 Oct 2004 06:10 GMT
Sex And HIV: Behaviour-Change Trial Shows No Link
The East African (Nairobi)
March 17, 2003
Posted to the web March 19, 2003

By Paul Redfern, Special Correspondent Nairobi
A UK funded trial aimed at reducing the spread of Aids in Uganda by
modifying sexual behaviour appears to have had little discernible effect.

The trial, carried out on around 15,000 people in the Masaka region,
involved distributing condoms, treating around 12,000 victims of sexually
transmitted diseases and counselling.

However, while the trial led to a marked change in sexual behavioural
patterns, with the proportion reporting causal sexual partners falling
from around 35 per cent to 15 per cent, there was no noticeable fall in
the number of new cases of HIV infection, although there was a significant
reduction in sexually transmitted diseases such as syphilis and
gonorrhoea.

The trial results, which were reported in the British medical journal The
Lancet, have already aroused some controversy.

The team leader of the trial, Dr Anatoli Kamalai, acknowledged that there
was "no measurable reduction" in HIV incidence with "no hint of even a
small effect."

http://allafrica.com/stories/200303190482.html
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/200303190482.html
GMCarter - 18 Oct 2004 12:40 GMT
>Sex And HIV: Behaviour-Change Trial Shows No Link
>The East African (Nairobi)

Repeated posting responded to previously. Recycled bullshit is still
bullshit.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 18 Oct 2004 22:56 GMT
You are the only source of BS around here.
GMCarter - 18 Oct 2004 13:05 GMT
Surratt HL, Inciardi JA. HIV risk, seropositivity and predictors of
infection among homeless and non-homeless women sex workers in Miami,
Florida, USA. AIDS Care. 2004 Jul;16(5):594-604.

Center for Drug and Alcohol Studies, University of Delaware, Coral
Gables, FL 33134, USA. HSurratt@udel.edu

Although homelessness has frequently been associated with substance
abuse, and has been established as a predictor of HIV risk among
substance abusers, little is known about the impact of homelessness on
HIV risk among female sex workers. This analysis investigated the
contribution of homelessness to sexual risk taking among a sample of
485 female sex workers recruited into an HIV prevention programme in
Miami, Florida, 41.6% of whom considered themselves to be currently
homeless. Findings indicated that in comparison to non-homeless sex
workers, significantly more homeless sex workers were daily users of
alcohol and crack, and their past month sex work reflected
significantly more frequent vaginal and oral sex acts, higher levels
of unprotected vaginal sex and more numerous sexual activities while
'high' on drugs. At the same time, a significantly greater proportion
of homeless sex workers encountered customers that refused to use
condoms than did the non-homeless sex workers. There were no
significant differences in HIV seropositivity between the homeless and
non-homeless women (22.5 and 24.9%, respectively), primarily because
the majority of the women in the study cycled in and out of
homelessness.
PaulKing - 18 Oct 2004 22:57 GMT
Once again we see that drug abuse, poor diet and stress are the cause of
'AIDS' NOT some wonder virus.

Thanks for making the point.
Death - 19 Oct 2004 00:04 GMT
"PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote in message
> Once again we see that drug abuse, poor diet and stress are the cause of
> 'AIDS' NOT some wonder virus.

I agree with you. Scientist /medical professionals should stop looking for a
cure for the aids virus. A waste of time and money.
RamRod Sword of Baal - 19 Oct 2004 00:54 GMT
> "PaulKing" <aimulti@aimultimedia.com> wrote in message
>> Once again we see that drug abuse, poor diet and stress are the cause of
>> 'AIDS' NOT some wonder virus.

> I agree with you. Scientist /medical professionals should stop looking for
> a
> cure for the aids virus. A waste of time and money.

It would seem that you did not get your annual nookie last night, and are
now sour on the world today........

You might try this........

It came in from a friend this morning...........

I never quite figured out why the sexual urge of men & women differ so

much. And I never have figured out the whole Venus and Mars thing.

I have never figured out why men think with their head and women

with their heart. I have never figured out why the sexual desire gene

gets

thrown into a state of turmoil, when it hears the words "I do."

FOR EXAMPLE:

One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed. Well,

the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says "I don't

feel

like it, I just want you to hold me."

I said "WHAT????!!! What was that?!"

So she says the words that every husband on the planet dreads to

hear..."You're just not in touch with my emotional needs as a

woman

enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man."

She responded to my puzzled look by saying, "Can't you just love

me

for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?"

Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night I went to

sleep. The very next day I opted to take the day off of work to

spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went

shopping at a big, big unnamed dept. store. I walked around with

her

while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She

couldn't decide which one to take so I told her we'll just buy

them

all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said

lets get a pair for each outfit. We went on to the jewelry dept.

where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings.

Let me tell you...she was so excited. She must have thought I was

one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing

me

because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn't even know

how to play tennis.

I think I threw her for a loop when I said, "That's fine, honey."

She was almost nearing sexual satisfaction from all of the excitement.

Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, "I think this is

all dear, let's go to the cashier".

I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, "No honey, I

don't feel like it."

Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a

baffled WHAT???!!!"

I then said, "Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for

awhile.. You're just not in touch with my financial needs as a man

enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman."

And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me I

added, "Why can't you just love me for who I am and not for the

things I buy you?"

Apparently I'm not having sex tonight either.

______________
PaulKing - 19 Oct 2004 01:11 GMT
If there were an AIDS virus finding a cure would make sense.

There is no such virus, just a $300,000,000 dollar business.

As there is no possibility of a cure for a myth the profits are in no
danger.

A really first rate scam.
Death - 19 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod Sword of Baal @truthonly.com> wrote in
message

> "Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> It would seem that you did not get your annual nookie last night, and are
> now sour on the world today........

If I had been the one to claim aids is from stress and not a virus
you would have reacted like your dick was stuck in the neighborhood goat.

It is good to see sarcasm go over your head.
That would be, what ?, a little below waist high ?
RamRod Sword of Baal - 19 Oct 2004 17:38 GMT
> "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod Sword of Baal @truthonly.com> wrote in
> message
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> It is good to see sarcasm go over your head.
> That would be, what ?, a little below waist high ?

Oh I replied in kind, did you not understand that, too subtle for you?
PaulKing - 19 Oct 2004 01:08 GMT
You cannot cure a myth except with truth.

Thanks for you support.
GMCarter - 19 Oct 2004 12:56 GMT
>Once again we see that drug abuse, poor diet and stress are the cause of
>'AIDS' NOT some wonder virus.

They contribute to the acquisition of HIV. They may also contribute to
the progression of the disease to AIDS. Individually and collectively,
substance use, poor diet and stress do not cause a person's CD4 count
to plummet to the point where they get sick from Pneumocystis
jirovecii or fulminant Kaposi's sarcoma.

There is no evidence whatsoever and plenty of common sense to tell you
that the conditions you've listed do not cause AIDS. Of course, they
SHOULD be addressed in this world! No question. HIV+ or not.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 19 Oct 2004 22:03 GMT
Kaposi's sarcoma is a tumor and to claim it is the result of immune
suppression is utter ('AIDS') madness.

Starvation can indeed cause total failure of the immune system. The vast
majority of Jews in the Death Camps died from opportunistic diseases
resulting from immune suppression caused by starvation NOT ZycloneB..

You really do talk a load of nonsense Mr. Carter.
Gary Stein - 19 Oct 2004 22:31 GMT
> Kaposi's sarcoma is a tumor and to claim it is the result of immune
> suppression is utter ('AIDS') madness.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You really do talk a load of nonsense Mr. Carter.

You are such an utter fool Paul how in the heck do you find your way home at
night? There is a tremendous difference between starvation and immune
suppression. During starvation the human body consumes it's own tissues in
an attempt to prolong life until food is again available. The destruction to
the bodies functions caused by this is distinct and unique to starvation.

The fact that prisoners in prison camps die of diseases has more to do with
inadequate sanitation, overcrowding, and lack of medical care then it does
to starvation. The newly arrived succumb to disease as do those poor
starving souls that preceded them to the camps. This fact applies to the
German extermination camps and to Andersonville. Though with out checking
the facts I do not know if more succumbed to disease, to starvation, were
worked to death or were killed outright.

Gary Stein
GMCarter - 20 Oct 2004 10:21 GMT
>Kaposi's sarcoma is a tumor and to claim it is the result of immune
>suppression is utter ('AIDS') madness.

It's a sarcoma. KS results from infection with human herpes 8. Elderly
men, whose immune systems aren't optimum, get a very mild form. When
young gay men with HIV and HHV-8 got it, it was horrific. Happily, it
doesn't happen so much.

>Starvation can indeed cause total failure of the immune system. The vast
>majority of Jews in the Death Camps died from opportunistic diseases
>resulting from immune suppression caused by starvation NOT ZycloneB..

First of all, the majority of humans with HIV do not live in death
camps. Second of all, I don't buy this statement of yours at all.
Maybe you think the holocaust didn't happen either?

>You really do talk a load of nonsense Mr. Carter.

Dearest, that I respond to you at all should fill your heart with
happiiness. It is an opportunity for you to grow up before you die of
sheer ignorance.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 19 Oct 2004 22:06 GMT
P.S. The same was trure of Andersonville prison camp in the American Civil
War. No ZycloneB there, just poor sanitation and starvation.

To claim ONLY 'HIV' causes immune suppression at a fatal level is nonsense
beyond belief.
David Canzi -- non-mailable address - 20 Oct 2004 04:40 GMT
>To claim ONLY 'HIV' causes immune suppression at a fatal level is nonsense
>beyond belief.

Who's been claiming that?

Signature

David Canzi

GMCarter - 20 Oct 2004 10:23 GMT
>P.S. The same was trure of Andersonville prison camp in the American Civil
>War. No ZycloneB there, just poor sanitation and starvation.
>
>To claim ONLY 'HIV' causes immune suppression at a fatal level is nonsense
>beyond belief.

Again, most people with HIV aren't living in a prison camp. And no, I
never claimed that ONLY HIV causes immune suppression.

But there are very few data showing a selective depletion of CD4 cells
in the condition of CD4 count. Cunningham-Rundles did some interesting
work showing parallels in immune defects with what happens in HIV
disease in the condition of protein-calorie malnutrition. But that is
NOT identical to AIDS. And feeding people helps offset that and
recovery occurs. HIV disease IS affected by nutritional status and can
be offset by it. But it is NOT cured by it and CD4 count declines
still occur, albeit at a slower level when people use a multivitamin,
for example.

        George M. Carter
PaulKing - 22 Oct 2004 06:47 GMT
"But it is NOT cured by it"

How could you possibly cure a myth with food? All you cure is the immune
suppression.

Now you are left with the results of worthless test but will remain alive
and well.
GMCarter - 22 Oct 2004 10:36 GMT
>"But it is NOT cured by it"
>
>How could you possibly cure a myth with food? All you cure is the immune
>suppression.

Stupid rhetorical tricks. Of course, myths may not be cured with food.
However, personal myths like "HIV is harmless" or "HIV does not exist"
may be fatal. HIV doesn't really give a sh.t what fantasy you cook up.

>Now you are left with the results of worthless test but will remain alive
>and well.

Sadly, this is not the case. If nutritional repletion alone were
adequate to prevent the development of AIDS, I'd have a lot more
friends still alive. It is a good and important part of care but does
not cure HIV disease.

        George M. Carter
 
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